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"the way it was meant to happen"
    #18863509 - 09/19/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

so basically in life there's this other level of reality which we're all a part of and we're aware of it as it happens but we don't know how to fully integrate it into our conscious mind and so it just remains partially in the subconscious and our conscious mind makes all these excuses to try and make sense of it.

it's like as we go through time as things happen there's this power of suggestion that goes behind everything that shapes our idea of "how things are supposed to be".

I mean as just one of the most outright obvious examples one could point out how we all wear clothes in public because that's just how it is and it's what everybody does and it would be strange to go against that. 

Another example I can think of include the way people pick up accents from living in certain areas for amount of time. Everybody around you talks in the accent. Nobody thinks twice about doing it. It's just how it's supposed to be, and it would be strange to speak in a different way.


I mean this stuff seems kind of obvious especially with these examples but this concept applies to basically anything and not only necessarily for the better, like if you grow up in a hostile environment than you will adapt a hostile mindset. sometimes being prejudice is just how it's supposed to be in some peoples minds.

this instinctual sense of "The way it was meant to happen" basically affects all of our behaviors in the end. When we are introduced with concepts that go too far against our preconceived ideas of things we sometimes respond with fear or confusion, because we learned that responding poorly to things that are far off from the way it was meant to be is the way it was meant to be.



it's just all how it was supposed to happen


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Sheekle]
    #18863563 - 09/19/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Sheekle]
    #18864060 - 09/19/13 05:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think of human social ques as an extension of the Pavlovian state. Environment and conditioning.

However we do have the ability to reflect and make changes, if one reevaluates their preconceived notions in general it is possible to change behavior despite their environment. If everyone around you is Christian that doesn't mean you can't see through it, that's a small personal example.

Is this free choice or a further extension of Pavlovian behavior? Personally I make a distinction when the individual has come past a certain non-arbitrary tier of thinking. That is to say if someone is discerning enough they have achieved a degree of 'free will' but the majority never come close to that, and it is impossible to judge where another person is. Of course everyone will think they've crossed that line and most of them would be wrong, but for every winner there are 100 losers :shrug2: the illusion in one mind doesn't reflect on all others.


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18864142 - 09/19/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
I think of human social ques as an extension of the Pavlovian state. Environment and conditioning.

However we do have the ability to reflect and make changes, if one reevaluates their preconceived notions in general it is possible to change behavior despite their environment. If everyone around you is Christian that doesn't mean you can't see through it, that's a small personal example.

Is this free choice or a further extension of Pavlovian behavior? Personally I make a distinction when the individual has come past a certain non-arbitrary tier of thinking. That is to say if someone is discerning enough they have achieved a degree of 'free will' but the majority never come close to that, and it is impossible to judge where another person is. Of course everyone will think they've crossed that line and most of them would be wrong, but for every winner there are 100 losers :shrug2: the illusion in one mind doesn't reflect on all others.




"sound a bit like pavlov's dogs"

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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Sheekle]
    #18864338 - 09/19/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

when you are stoned any string of ideas may seem to be a concept or a well conceived notion by the way it seems to hang around in your head


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Sheekle]
    #18865040 - 09/19/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure anything was meant or intended to happen. I see it more as 'the way it is happening' as a variety of 'the way it did happen'.


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Sheekle]
    #18865455 - 09/19/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Your picking up accents comment got me thinking sheekle.  Would a 45 year old that has lived in the same area for his whole life up to moving to new york, lets say, change his accent as quickly as a 12 year old from the same area as the 45 year old and moving to new york at the same time.  Or would the 12 year old be more susceptible to the accent change?  My initial reaction is to say that 12 year old would, but not 100% sure on that.


And when you say it is just how it is supposed to happen.. you mean like over the course of all time this is how things are supposed to be, or just in this moment and time this is what I should do because this is what everyone else is doing.  So pretty much what everyone else is doing is the correct and best way to do it, so that is the same way I should do it.


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: dodgem]
    #18865757 - 09/19/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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dodgem said:
Your picking up accents comment got me thinking sheekle.  Would a 45 year old that has lived in the same area for his whole life up to moving to new york, lets say, change his accent as quickly as a 12 year old from the same area as the 45 year old and moving to new york at the same time.  Or would the 12 year old be more susceptible to the accent change?  My initial reaction is to say that 12 year old would, but not 100% sure on that.




Think that depends, as an example I can adopt a few different accents pretty seamlessly but have been around various accents and am a trained vocalist. If you grew up and stayed in New York you'd meet all kinds of people and could likely adopt different accents the same as someone who has traveled

That's how it seems to me at least


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18865794 - 09/19/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My posts display a wide variety of dialects. Of course, only the truly discerning pick that up.


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #18865801 - 09/19/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: I only speak English, can change my accent around though. Have had people dead set on me being Irish for weeks before I told them otherwise


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18865811 - 09/19/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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dodgem said:
Your picking up accents comment got me thinking sheekle.  Would a 45 year old that has lived in the same area for his whole life up to moving to new york, lets say, change his accent as quickly as a 12 year old from the same area as the 45 year old and moving to new york at the same time.  Or would the 12 year old be more susceptible to the accent change?  My initial reaction is to say that 12 year old would, but not 100% sure on that.




Think that depends, as an example I can adopt a few different accents pretty seamlessly but have been around various accents and am a trained vocalist. If you grew up and stayed in New York you'd meet all kinds of people and could likely adopt different accents the same as someone who has traveled

That's how it seems to me at least




I was thinking more along the lines of just an age factor for the sake of science.  So lets say they are around the same people for this cause. ---> would being around the same thing make it harder to 'change' what you have always done and adapt with what is around you.  That is without consciously changing your accent (like repertoire89 ^^^ did).  Instinct says yes, but not sure what science has to say.


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Re: "the way it was meant to happen" [Re: dodgem]
    #18865822 - 09/20/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No clue :shrug2:


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