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first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up
    #18861180 - 09/19/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Alright first i just wanna say hello, nice to meet all of you.
Lets get started, i will be using the PF cakes with a SGFC and i would like to know if i am doing everything correctly, and your personal opinion on what spore syringe i should get and from who. (please correct me on any wrong terminology i use)

preparation i will poke 4 holes into the top of the jar lids to inject the liquid spores.

PF - so we start with the 2 cups of verm (im using fine grade) then add one cup water and mix then add the 1 cup BRF (couldn't find it but i am going to use a food processor and make the brown rice into a very fine powder) and mix that as well. i will put the mixture into the jars and each jar will be filled 2/3rds and then wipe away stuck to the top 1/3 part of the jar and fill the rest with dry Verm.

next im gonna sterilize the half pint jars im using. Due to lack of PC im going to use the boiling method so, i screw the lids on tightly (tightly or loosely iv heard lost of conversely) then cover the tops with tinfoil.
Next i place down some jar lids in the bottom of the pot then ill cover with tinfoil and add 1 more layer of lids which i will place my jars on and fill the pot to half way up the jars, then i will make the water boil and turn down the temp enough to keep a steady boil but not one that will cause a bunch of water being splashed ever where. i will keep it in there for an hour. with the lid on the pot of course. then i will wait till they cool to room temp.
Then come Colonization, so i will keep them in my closet that stays at 73F until fully colonized and i can no longer see and of the mixture this is of course excluding the top layer of dry Verm.
Then I birth them by flipping them over and scraping out the dry verm, and then bang the jar onto a piece of wood till it falls out. once that is done they are ready to go in the FC

My FC as i already stated will be the ShotGun setup
i have a 66 quart storage box the Dimensions are 23.6 x 16.4 x 13.2 inches



Question, when im drilling holes in the box what size drill bit should i use and should they be 1 or 2 inches apart i believe that the drill bit size is 1/4 and the space between holes should be 2inches?

i will wash my perlite thoroughly then i will fill the box with 4 inches of the wet perlite. Can the cakes touch the perlite or no????
if not i will just use the jar lids as a base any better suggestions there if needed?
this will more then likely be set up in my garage so it should get some natural light but if not what size bulb and type, and what is the best temp to keep it at. Ik the humidity needs to be 95 to 100%.

Am i missing any steps? Does all this sound correct?
:mushroom2: i have done a lot of research and just wanna make sure i have every right before proceeding. Ty to all who have taken time to read this and give opinions, as far as what spore to use i was thinking for my first time i would use B+ i have heard it is quite forgiving.

OH one last thing, i heard you can use the same cakes more then once and they will flush quickly, if someone could link and explanation of this or explain it them selves, much appreciated.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18861190 - 09/19/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1/4inch holes every 2 inches, on all six sides.
Use the jar lids on the perlite.
Fruit between 67-73, optimally.

The only step your missing is dunking (submerging the cakes for 12-24 hours) and rolling in vermiculite.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18861204 - 09/19/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ty. when dunking do i put them in cold or warm water? i haven't looked in to the Dunk and Roll tek as i heard it was unnecessary, when doing DnR do i have to let the fully colonized jars sit for a week after colonization?


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18861223 - 09/19/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yes when jars are 100 percent colonized give them one more week to consolidate. Just dunk them in cool tap water and let them sit in it at room temperature for 24 hours.

Also when boiling your jars you want the jars up out of the water. That is why you put later of rings and foil. Just watch the Let's Grow Mushrooms video series and follow that


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18861229 - 09/19/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well for starters I hear ralphsters is really good, but you have to send them a money order or the cash thru the mail, so if that doesn't seem appealing then I recommenced sporeworks since I have had good luck with them so far, also I hope you have some type of glove box or hepa filter for injection since they help by alot when trying to stay away from contamination and don't forget to flame sterilize the syringe between every jar.After you birth the cakes you should dunk them in water for 14-24 hours then roll them in verm (to rehydrate the cakes). When it comes to drilling hole they should all be 2in apart and be 1/4 big. Once you place the cakes in the f.c they shouldn't be touching the perlite and a more ideal base would be a piece of aluminum paper. Oh and don't forget to fan the f.c chamber multiple times a day. I'm not really sure what you ment by the last part, but if you're referring to obtaining more then one flush from each cake then you should dunk them under water for 12-24 hours and re roll them in verm and do this every single flush. If you have any other questions I really suggest you watch RR's video


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18861234 - 09/19/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck Ralphsters. 

If someone needs spores for microscopy any of the Shroomery Vendors will treat them right.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18861238 - 09/19/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Also you can get a cheap pressure cooker on ebay for 30 which should hold 6 half pint jars and it would really help in the long run.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18861260 - 09/19/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i do plan on making a glove box just forgot to mention it. I have also tried to order some from (A place), i guess i will have to just send them money in the mail because they havent picked up their phone.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18861276 - 09/19/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i do plan on making a glove box just forgot to mention it. I have also tried to order some from sporeworks, i guess i will have to just send them money in the mail because they havent picked up their phone.



o.O you order from sporeworks online with debit/credit cards not thru the phone


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18861289 - 09/19/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i will use one of the vendors more then likely (A place) iv heard nothing but good about them. I plan on keeping this forum up to date on everything, once i receive my spore syringes i will be sure to post pics after incubation all tho there will be nothing immediate to see, but once colonization starts i will upload pics of that to, and through the rest of the process.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18861299 - 09/19/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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i do plan on making a glove box just forgot to mention it. I have also tried to order some from sporeworks, i guess i will have to just send them money in the mail because they havent picked up their phone.



o.O you order from sporeworks online with debit/credit cards not thru the phone



this is true however i would rather not have that order linked to a bank account so i picked up a Visa Gift card and it didnt work i must register it to me which defeats the point, but on their website they said they can normally get around this if i do it over the phone


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18861324 - 09/19/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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CamperMan said:
i do plan on making a glove box just forgot to mention it. I have also tried to order some from sporeworks, i guess i will have to just send them money in the mail because they havent picked up their phone.



o.O you order from sporeworks online with debit/credit cards not thru the phone



this is true however i would rather not have that order linked to a bank account so i picked up a Visa Gift card and it didnt work i must register it to me which defeats the point, but on their website they said they can normally get around this if i do it over the phone



you can just get a green dot visa card for free and put money in it by going to a 7/11, cvs, wallgreens, etc and buying a money pak which you can transfer into the debit card


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: geazerpleaser]
    #18864531 - 09/19/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Eh its all good, im just gonna mail the cash, i found out about
(A different place) and they are extremely trust worthy. Only thing holding me back is idk if i need to add tax into the final price of the 2 syringes (total price is $24)


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18864548 - 09/19/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No shipping, no tax.

Send out twelve dollars and you get a free syringe if you buy 1-4 syringes, so you'll get 2 for $12.  You can even name your freebie, and mention you're a Shroomery member.  If you send out $24, you'll get three syringes of your choice.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18864608 - 09/19/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you Mush4Brains, how fast is the free shipping normally??


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18864610 - 09/19/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like Hawkeye, but I also liked Spore Depot.  Good luck!  You are on your way now!


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: CamperMan]
    #18864619 - 09/19/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Thank you Mush4Brains, how fast is the free shipping normally??




I sent my order out on a Monday (8/26), from a public mailbox.  He received it on Friday, sent the order out Saturday, and I received the package on the following Friday (9/6).  This is with Labor Day (9/2) getting in the way as well.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: mpd]
    #18864662 - 09/19/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i looked into (A different place H) and just didn't have a great gut feeling about it.
plus compared to (A different place S), they are expensive.
(A different place S) - $12 for all cubensis spores + free shipping and all come with at least 1 free syringe of your choice.
(A different place H ) - 16 per plus 6 dollar shipping with mail order. With a card tho it's $17 per syringe 6.60 shipping.


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18864676 - 09/19/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Thank you Mush4Brains, how fast is the free shipping normally??




I sent my order out on a Monday (8/26), from a public mailbox.  He received it on Friday, sent the order out Saturday, and I received the package on the following Friday (9/6).  This is with Labor Day (9/2) getting in the way as well.



Thats not to bad at all considering the Labor day. ty for your help man i will be placing my evolpe in the mail tomorrow morning. I am extremely excited to finally start for the first time


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Re: first time grower im gonna use pf and sgfc set up [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18865285 - 09/19/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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No shipping, no tax.



i messaged him earlier and just got a response, the no tax is still true but the free shipping was discontinued on the first of this year


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