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People who smoke marijuanas annoy me
    #18863785 - 09/19/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hahahaha, to be more serious, it's the everyday stoners with dreads and a bob marley shirt on that do nothing but talk about the medicinal properties of pot.

Especially when they talk about weed not being addictive.


Fuck off. I've smoked weed every day for a long time, and it's absolutely addicting. Obviously it's not heroine.. and I'm not seizing because of withdrawals... but that doesn't mean it's not addicting.

If I smoke weed every day, multiple times a day, then stop... guess what? I become depressed, agitated, anxious and I suffer from insomnia.. Guess what the only thing is that can stop these negative feelings? MORE POTS.

It's not just me though, I've had multiple people admit the same thing to me. But it's a hard thing to ask stoners, because they will attack you if you try to say anything blasphemous about their sacred 7 leafed herb.

I guess I just needed to rant a bit. I'm sick of people acting like weed is this God sent cure-all with no side effects.


DISCLAIMER: I love marijuana. I'm just sick of "those" people.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863807 - 09/19/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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blah blah blah i hate ignorant lazy fucks blah blah blah dont they realize that weed is absolutely addictive because it is so for me?




Yeah totally, me too


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420] * 1
    #18863824 - 09/19/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Weed is a drug. It has an addictive potential, but nothing like cigarettes.

I smoke all the time. I hope we don't have a problem :awehigh:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420] * 8
    #18863838 - 09/19/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, weed isn't addictive, you're just kinda a pussy.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Lynnch] * 2
    #18863848 - 09/19/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Keep these replies coming! I'm loving the ignorance :douchewink:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Lynnch]
    #18863850 - 09/19/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

LOL i have no marijuanas how will i cope with this depression!?!

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Keep these replies coming! I'm loving the ignorance :douchewink:



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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Lynnch]
    #18863853 - 09/19/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug: to say it isn't is pretty ignorant.

There are marijuana rehabs.

However, I can stop if I want to. I just have to stop buying:awehigh:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863890 - 09/19/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Op sounds like a poon how about you stop complaining and smoke a blunt. who gets addicted to weed anyway? if you get addicted to pot you probably shouldn't do any drugs


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18863893 - 09/19/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People who use the word marijuanas even in jest annoy me.  You're not funny, edgy, or clever.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18863903 - 09/19/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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People who use the word marijuanas even in jest annoy me.  You're not funny, edgy, or clever.




Dammit, I was hoping to get a seal of approval from a random person on the internet :frown:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863923 - 09/19/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ahhh, a self-righteous fool has made a thread on the shroomery!1


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863924 - 09/19/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Isn't that what you tried to do by posting this thread?  Get people to say "yeah, I agree with you, stoners are fucking stupid!"


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18863928 - 09/19/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: no he just wanted to berate us with his thread moronicide.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420] * 1
    #18863931 - 09/19/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just kick em in their dicks.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863950 - 09/19/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sugars probably more addicting than ganja

if you are having addiction problems with your marijuana use, you need to reevaluate your priorities in life

source: daily heavy smoker for over five years--circumstances required me to spend most of june and july without any ganja--no noticeable withdrawal


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18863952 - 09/19/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Isn't that what you tried to do by posting this thread?  Get people to say "yeah, I agree with you, stoners are fucking stupid!"



Quote:

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:lol: no he just wanted to berate us with his thread moronicide.




you guys are just assuming.  he made the thread to rant - said so in the RP :wink:



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taht being said, i'm addicted to the marijuanas


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18863957 - 09/19/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Isn't that what you tried to do by posting this thread?  Get people to say "yeah, I agree with you, stoners are fucking stupid!"




Did you get to the end of the post? I needed to rant. Some people write poetry, some people write journals, some people blog.. I'm an active member of this community and love hearing different opinions from you guys. So therefore, I made a thread to rant. Not to cut at your throats, like all you are trying to do to me now. Just take it for what it is, a single persons opinion.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863967 - 09/19/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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source: daily heavy smoker for over five years--circumstances required me to spend most of june and july without any ganja--no noticeable withdrawal




I'm glad. I also know people who don't get mentally dependent on weed. And I know people who are in the same boat as me. It's weird that I get dependent on it, seeing as I've never had addiction problems with anything. I can quit anything I start cold turkey.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18863973 - 09/19/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it's a misinformed opinion. those people are annoying though. great. lets hear more opinions. definitely worth the time.


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    #18863993 - 09/19/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like that scene in half-baked, go stand in front of the crowd at narc-anon, a bunch of broke-ass desparate junkies, and tell them how cannabis has ruined your life, how you can't stop feeling good, laughing, and eating, and how it is sooo expensive, and how it sucks that you have to pay for it because it can't be grown at home......


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Rockhound] * 2
    #18864014 - 09/19/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP i fully agree with literally every post you have made in this thread


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Rockhound]
    #18864022 - 09/19/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hi everyone, my name is Thurgood.



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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864026 - 09/19/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i hate it when people can smoke an non-addictive drug, and i can't because i get whiny and apprehensive for a day or two, if i don't have it. :sad:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864028 - 09/19/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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DISCLAIMER: I love marijuana. I'm just sick of "those" people.




Do 'those people' include smokers who go on and on about anything 420 related?


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #18864033 - 09/19/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like weed, you smoke it and then feel high.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Murph] * 1
    #18864042 - 09/19/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it seems that most stoners come to that point where they realize that weed isnt as harmless as they thought it was....


like....why do i never want to do anything......this isnt psychedelic anymore......

then you stop and/or cut back and its like seeing the sunlight peek through the clouds

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864045 - 09/19/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yes, most people have had YOUR experiences. FORREAL.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864059 - 09/19/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yes, most people have had YOUR experiences. FORREAL.



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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: memes]
    #18864089 - 09/19/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hey brahski,

I don't like your attitude about guys like me who smoke tons of super ridiculous OG grandpappy durple and get stoned as fuck and are more higher (enlightened) than you cuz you just seem so mad and total negative vibes bro. You know when i'm high as fuck like i am now i'm super sensitive to your vibes so i know you are mad at other hipsters (hippie stoners) like myself cause we LOVE WEED OBAMA 420


 

What a perfect example, OP.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864093 - 09/19/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yes, most people have had YOUR experiences. FORREAL.





aww did my response upset you, baby boy?

angry stoners getting offended at others opinions, LOL.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864106 - 09/19/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'm only crotchety because i am currently going through withdrawal


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18864114 - 09/19/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it takes a certain amount of maturity to admit that marijuana isnt comepletely harmless. thats all im saying, and i believe OP is saying the same thing.

some people, however, never will.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864117 - 09/19/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it seems that most stoners come to that point where they realize that weed isnt as harmless as they thought it was....


like....why do i never want to do anything......this isnt psychedelic anymore......





Nah it's just weed.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18864124 - 09/19/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They just think talking about medicinal properties make you sound smart.
If you want to sound smart, refer to THC as tetrahydrocannabinol and talk about its effects on the brain and where your cannabinoid receptors are located.


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    #18864140 - 09/19/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it takes a certain amount of maturity to admit that marijuana isnt comepletely harmless. thats all im saying, and i believe OP is saying the same thing.

some people, however, never will.



Quote:

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They just think talking about medicinal properties make you sound smart.
If you want to sound smart, refer to THC as tetrahydrocannabinol and talk about its effects on the brain and where your cannabinoid receptors are located.


:dawerp:




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864148 - 09/19/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it takes a certain amount of maturity to admit that marijuana isnt comepletely harmless.





No it doesn't, it just takes maybe an hour of studying the subject.


newbies think smoking weed is the coolest thing since sliced bread so they will deny common sense to defend it. I don't see people anymore saying marijuana is completely harmless cause the truth is, it isn't. It's not as harmful as a couple of the legal drugs, but that is also common knowledge.


This thread is fail, op- you don't like somebody? I don't give a fuck. Quit crying and let people develop at their own speed. Go smoke a dab while you feel as if you are the most enlightened pothead on the planet. :lol:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: ganjfather]
    #18864165 - 09/19/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it takes a certain amount of maturity to admit that marijuana isnt comepletely harmless.





No it doesn't, it just takes maybe an hour of studying the subject.


newbies think smoking weed is the coolest thing since sliced bread so they will deny common sense to defend it. I don't see people anymore saying marijuana is completely harmless cause the truth is, it isn't. It's not as harmful as a couple of the legal drugs, but that is also common knowledge.


This thread is fail, op- you don't like somebody? I don't give a fuck. Quit crying and let people develop at their own speed. Go smoke a dab while you feel as if you are the most enlightened pothead on the planet. :lol:





I'm not claiming to be enlightened or claiming that I know things that other people don't! I created this thread to rant about the potheads that will go to every length to defend their precious plant.



Excuse me while I go rip my bong and glove.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864176 - 09/19/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

when i say "not completely harmless" i mean on a non physical level.

of course bud is physically harmless.

but, when used in great excess, there is a high likelihood that it will have a potentially negative effect on one's psychology, motivation, and reactivity.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864177 - 09/19/13 05:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

and what are those 'harmful' effects?

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weed isnt as harmless as they thought it was....


like....why do i never want to do anything......this isnt psychedelic anymore......



Lack of motivation and increased tolerance?
Nothing is absolutely harmless--you can drown in a glass of water--oxygen enriched environments are fire hazards--etc etc--but, relatively, ganja is about as harmless as it can get.

I think it takes a certain immaturity to try and place blame on a substance that instead lies within the user.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864181 - 09/19/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not claiming to be enlightened or claiming that I know things that other people don't!





Then stop judging people. I bet you any amount of money that when you were new to smoking pot you thought it was just as cool as they do.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864185 - 09/19/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but, when used in great excess, there is a high likelihood that it will have a potentially negative effect on one's psychology, motivation, and reactivity.



SO?


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    #18864198 - 09/19/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but, when used in great excess, there is a high likelihood that it will have a potentially negative effect on one's psychology, motivation, and reactivity.



SO?





SO....I am supporting my thesis you fucking ignorant and obnoxious child.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864199 - 09/19/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

its not like people don't know these things.



let them make their own decisions :smile: :smile: :smile:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864202 - 09/19/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A very interesting find HERE


Their study finds that THC INCREASES anxiety while CBD decreases (both THC and CBD are found in cannabis.)


I for one get anxious when I smoke. I haven't smoked in months. I wish I lived in a state like colorado or washington (I love snowboarding) because they have an organized system in which you can find strains containing higher CBD. It's not like your buying some random (maybe even laced) strain on the street. luck of the draw.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: ganjfather]
    #18864211 - 09/19/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not claiming to be enlightened or claiming that I know things that other people don't!





Then stop judging people. I bet you any amount of money that when you were new to smoking pot you thought it was just as cool as they do.




Not judging. I actually got into pot way after getting heavily involved in psychedelics, so I never did it to be cool lol. However, that was a good guess. I'm sure if it was the other way around, you would be correct, because I thought I was cool when I first did psychedelics.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Luc1d]
    #18864217 - 09/19/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but, when used in great excess, there is a high likelihood that it will have a potentially negative effect on one's psychology, motivation, and reactivity.



SO?





SO....I am supporting my thesis you fucking ignorant and obnoxious child.



then don't smoke it so much, it's not like it's addictive. i'm just supporting MY THESIS, like  ihave been the whole thread, you petulant loser.

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Not judging. I actually got into pot way after getting heavily involved in psychedelics, so I never did it to be cool lol. However, that was a good guess. I'm sure if it was the other way around, you would be correct, because I thought I was cool when I first did psychedelics.



well, fucking mystery solved.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864226 - 09/19/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not claiming to be enlightened or claiming that I know things that other people don't!





Then stop judging people. I bet you any amount of money that when you were new to smoking pot you thought it was just as cool as they do.




Not judging. I actually got into pot way after getting heavily involved in psychedelics, so I never did it to be cool lol. However, that was a good guess. I'm sure if it was the other way around, you would be correct, because I thought I was cool when I first did psychedelics.





*denial*


It's cool, I won't judge you.

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864230 - 09/19/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the key word is 'great excess'

water, when consumed in great excess can lead to hyperhydration and death


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18864240 - 09/19/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

marijuana ruined my ability to pop a boner, need Viagra.

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864250 - 09/19/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

marijuana gave me priapism


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18864275 - 09/19/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

cut of your dick from excess Marijuanas. it's gonna come to bite you in the ass.







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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864388 - 09/19/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I despise those die hard stoners that are ripped 24/7 and talk down on other drugs and believe Mary Jane is the holy grail. I still love cannabis but I love it a lot less than I used to. It's got a special place in my heart but its not the end all be all. I love a variety of drugs. Cannabis makes me socially awkward and highly anxious in social situations, sadly, I remember the good ole days.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864418 - 09/19/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP, your title is "People who smoke marijuanas annoy me" and you smoke marijuanas.

Do you annoy yourself? :confused:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864532 - 09/19/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it's the everyday stoners with dreads and a bob marley shirt on that do nothing but talk about the medicinal properties of pot.





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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864543 - 09/19/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People who talk shit about marijuana smokers annoy me :shrug:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18864582 - 09/19/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I do find it a little tiresome conversing with the "marijuana can do no wrong" crowd. Pretty much the same as dealing with idealistic zealots of any sort though, it's nothing unique to weed.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864604 - 09/19/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i had this convo with my chick the other day.

people that smoke dont bother me. pot heads bug the SHIT out of me.

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18864678 - 09/19/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Completely understandable. There are delusional snobs with every facet of existence.
The self-righteous stoner is but one of many obnoxious stereotypes. Personally I hope they all choke on a lungful of smoke.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: something super extreme]
    #18864718 - 09/19/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Best thing about smoking weed is you don't really care what people think about your smoking, also you never see a stoner making a thread about how much sober people bother them. I suppose it's because stoners aren't into forcing their opinions about drugs or really anything on you.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Murph]
    #18864736 - 09/19/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you'd actually read anything past the title, not once in the OP has the issue been smoking in and of itself.
Yet, in typical fashion holding up to the stereotype, you voice an entirely irrelevant and sanctimonious response the second you perceive a slight to your precious habit.

And, as a matter of fact, many of the stereotype being discussed in this thread go out of their way to force an opinion on others. You have seen the amount of weed-snobbery and elitism that goes on here, right?

Take a fucking hint; pay attention once and awhile. Might do you some good.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: something super extreme]
    #18864794 - 09/19/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Once again couldn't care less, guy.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Murph]
    #18864797 - 09/19/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Typical.
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    #18865149 - 09/19/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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as a matter of fact, many of the stereotype being discussed in this thread go out of their way to force an opinion on others. You have seen the amount of weed-snobbery and elitism that goes on here, right?






No, I haven't seen any of the weed-snobbery or elitism that has clearly offended your delicate sensibilities and not once in this thread have I seen any stereotypical stoners forcing their opinions on others.

Your stance is that the marijuana smoking elitist who outnumber you on the forum are annoying because they're forcing their views that marijuana is a harmless cure all drug while turning their noses up at other drug users and thinking they're superior, my stance is who cares what other people think it's just weed.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Murph]
    #18865180 - 09/19/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For me, its a habit.

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: something super extreme]
    #18865363 - 09/19/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Completely understandable. There are delusional snobs with every facet of existence.
The self-righteous stoner is but one of many obnoxious stereotypes. Personally I hope they all choke on a lungful of smoke.



that created a fantastic picture in my mind. :lol:

"dude but maijuana is like a sacrament man HORK AAGHAEGFAEGAH GOOLOGFG HOUHEACKCACKACK OOOTRRR *lung cookie* COUGH COUGH... like a sacrament".


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18867288 - 09/20/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i have this friend and he is like some sort of weed scientist. He knows all there is about weed, hemp, cultivation, history and so on. And all he does is talk about it. All the time. Smokes pot and talks about pot. Now he is not actually doing some science but mostly works as a spokeperson for other people who actually done the science. Since he dont do any science hes not making much progress. But he sure does know a lot about weed. And smokes alot. I wonder when hes gonna wake up


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Fun-Gee]
    #18867314 - 09/20/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

some people really love to grow and understanding botanicals is actually pretty cool. :shrug:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Murph]
    #18867342 - 09/20/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Best thing about smoking weed is you don't really care what people think about your smoking, also you never see a stoner making a thread about how much sober people bother them. I suppose it's because stoners aren't into forcing their opinions about drugs or really anything on you.




How exactly does making a thread about something equate to forcing an opinion on others anyway? Nobody is forcing you to read this stuff.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18867356 - 09/20/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i think what he meant is when people will crassly do this in a separate topic, just because in the topic, the subject gets rung in... or like, if people actually rant like this in person.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18867372 - 09/20/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If that's all it takes to qualify as forcing your opinion on someone, then yeah there are definitely some stoners who do that kind of thing all the time.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18867383 - 09/20/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

stoners and the OP alike.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18867400 - 09/20/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah this is a little like an Almond Flour thread or something. :lol:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18867412 - 09/20/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:cantwashthataway:

oh no, not Almond Flour. hope OP isn't his puppet. :sherlock: it does say "solitude is bliss" in his title. so that would be an Almondy thing.

but yeayh, ranting about inconsequential meanderings is redundant. it's just like asking for a kerfuffle.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18867468 - 09/20/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No idea who this Almond Flour you speak of is.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18867514 - 09/20/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He's banned at the moment. He makes a lot of threads about people who annoy him etc, but they're usually a lot more over the top than this thread.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18824665


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18867532 - 09/20/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, i was just kidding, empire.

you're not half as bad as duder, here... got his life torn down by his fiance straight outta highschool; everyone told him, BIG MISTAKE, and now his life sucks and he takes it out on the shroomy community here.


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    #18867564 - 09/20/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: I normally don't even post topics like this, I was just in an argument with an over the top stoner.


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    #18867610 - 09/20/13 12:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, true say. those exist, obviously. but there is an exception to every rule. stoners can also be highly influenced and impacted spiritually or by fascination, with the herb, and be completely innocent of being the kind that is incessantly raving obnoxiously all the time. obviously, though, right?


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    #18867625 - 09/20/13 12:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

when I smoke marijuana I annoy myself


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: filmoe]
    #18867645 - 09/20/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yeah, true say. those exist, obviously. but there is an exception to every rule. stoners can also be highly influenced and impacted spiritually or by fascination, with the herb, and be completely innocent of being the kind that is incessantly raving obnoxiously all the time. obviously, though, right?




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    #18867654 - 09/20/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that being said, inciting thread, ma dude. :lolsy:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18867690 - 09/20/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Marijuana raped and killed my whole family

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18867842 - 09/20/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha good one, pot is addictive. Pot is not addictive you are just weak. Smoke weed all the time and you know what happens when I don't?! Nothing.


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    #18867871 - 09/20/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha good one, crack is addictive. Crack is not addictive you are just weak. Smoke crack all the time and you know what happens when I don't?! Nothing.

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    #18867973 - 09/20/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah, weed isn't addictive, you're just kinda a pussy.



Its as addictive as coffee

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People who smoke marijuanas annoy me



They don't annoy me but they're really boring and extremely biased. They're annoying if you're sobering and waiting to get some weed from/through them.


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    #18868002 - 09/20/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Rockhound]
    #18868019 - 09/20/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I never force pot or my beliefs on anyone and i only smoke to relax at the end of the day. On occasion i do wear a Bob Marley and the wailers t shirt but I've been wearing it since before i smoked.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18868027 - 09/20/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its not (physically addictive) is what they should say. It is habit forming it can't cause (dangerous withdrawal) from stopping that will lead to crime and stuff because the person will not go over the edge pulling hair out lol and stealing .


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Its not (physically addictive) is what they should say. It is habit forming it can't cause (dangerous withdrawal) from stopping that will lead to crime and stuff because the person will not go over the edge pulling hair out lol and stealing .



Very few drugs cause physically dangerous withdrawal symptoms. It's pretty much just alcohol, benzodiazepines, and barbiturates that cause life threatening withdrawal.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18868056 - 09/20/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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alcohol, benzodiazepines, and barbiturates




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: NWlight]
    #18868076 - 09/20/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked every 1-2 hours for the past week and stopped a few hours ago and I feel bored and sober.

I'm pretty sure weed smoke does some nasty shit on your lungs and tubes.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #18868134 - 09/20/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Haha good one, pot is addictive. Pot is not addictive you are just weak. Smoke weed all the time and you know what happens when I don't?! Nothing.






Pretty much anything can be addictive so why not pot mister 1 comment guy?

People who think pot can't be addictive in any way are crazy, crazy I say !?!??!?!!!? ! :crazy2:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: NWlight]
    #18868136 - 09/20/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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alcohol, benzodiazepines, and barbiturates




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18868167 - 09/20/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck off. I've smoked weed every day for a long time, and it's absolutely addicting. Obviously it's not heroine.. and I'm not seizing because of withdrawals... but that doesn't mean it's not addicting.

If I smoke weed every day, multiple times a day, then stop... guess what? I become depressed, agitated, anxious and I suffer from insomnia.. Guess what the only thing is that can stop these negative feelings? MORE POTS.






Yep, not even going to bother reading the rest of the thread because I already know The Shroomery is pretty polarized on this issue. I 100% agree with you. Cannabis is addicting and has pretty much those exact same effects on me.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Ojom]
    #18868236 - 09/20/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I mean obviously any withdrawal symptoms are pretty minimal, but IME it's really more about depending on a high to cope with problems in life you don't want to address directly. If that element is not present, you'll have a much easier time quitting a given substance or behavior. I've never had a problem quitting alcohol and have gone years without it without really missing it, but I don't take that to mean that others are just "weak" to have a problem I don't.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18868540 - 09/20/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sugars probably more addicting than ganja




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18868556 - 09/20/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Op, I feel the same about people who put 420 in their user name.  What can ya do?  Some people man.

Though I do agree weed can cause some minor side effects from quitting.  I find I have pretty much the same symptoms mentioned earlier (insomnia, curt, easily annoyed), but to be quite honest they only last for 2-3 days at max.  In fact I hardly noticed it until I repeatedly ran out of weed over a two month period.  After I noticed that I repeatedly quit weed for a week (until the symptoms stopped) and got more, until it became so easy to drop pot it's really a non-issue.

Definitely not physically addictive, I think everyone agrees on that.
I'd say it is definitely habit forming, and I've experienced minor side effects from not smoking.

But really now that "addiction" can't even measure up to cigs or booze so it's not really a problem.  Hell I've had worse cravings for a soda than weed.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: eMpire420]
    #18868574 - 09/20/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I love marijuana.




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #18868612 - 09/20/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: mandrax360] * 2
    #18868655 - 09/20/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with OP, I can't stand the stereotypical, snobby, elitist stoners. The ones that just HAVE to smoke at 4:20 every day, and will listen to shitty music and watch shitty movies just because there's weed involved.

They do nothing but talk about how good weed is and how it's not addictive at all ad it apparently cures all diseases. And they're fucking addicted to it, they can't even handle taking a break for a few days.

Smoking weed is fun as hell and all, but goddamn how do people let it control their life so badly. That is an addiction, and their delusional.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18868693 - 09/20/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree with OP, I can't stand the stereotypical, snobby, elitist stoners. The ones that just HAVE to smoke at 4:20 every day, and will listen to shitty music and watch shitty movies just because there's weed involved.

They do nothing but talk about how good weed is and how it's not addictive at all ad it apparently cures all diseases. And they're fucking addicted to it, they can't even handle taking a break for a few days.

Smoking weed is fun as hell and all, but goddamn how do people let it control their life so badly. That is an addiction, and their delusional.



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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18868694 - 09/20/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

btw this thread blows


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18868704 - 09/20/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree with OP, I can't stand the stereotypical, snobby, elitist stoners. The ones that just HAVE to smoke at 4:20 every day, and will listen to shitty music and watch shitty movies just because there's weed involved.

They do nothing but talk about how good weed is and how it's not addictive at all ad it apparently cures all diseases. And they're fucking addicted to it, they can't even handle taking a break for a few days.

Smoking weed is fun as hell and all, but goddamn how do people let it control their life so badly. That is an addiction, and their delusional.



I've never met anyone like that



I know a few people like that, and I realize weed is great and all and I try to tolerate it, but some people are just to extreme. I mean I don't even really smoke weed and they try to force all this shit on me it gets a little aggravating.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18868718 - 09/20/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they sound like mindless zombies and if it wasn't weed they would let something else influence their life to that extent


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18868720 - 09/20/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, that's why you're pissed off. Just tell them that you chose not to do the drug and that you want them to respect that.

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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18868731 - 09/20/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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they sound like mindless zombies and if it wasn't weed they would let something else influence their life to that extent



It's just a stage in life , most grow out of it  :awehigh:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18868756 - 09/20/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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they sound like mindless zombies and if it wasn't weed they would let something else influence their life to that extent



Exactly, it's an addiction really. They have to be obsessed about something just to feel content with their unfulfilling life. It's really sad.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Lynnch]
    #18868774 - 09/20/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah, weed isn't addictive, you're just kinda a pussy.




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18868776 - 09/20/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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btw this thread blows





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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Sheekle]
    #18871320 - 09/21/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree with OP, I can't stand the stereotypical, snobby, elitist stoners. The ones that just HAVE to smoke at 4:20 every day, and will listen to shitty music and watch shitty movies just because there's weed involved.

They do nothing but talk about how good weed is and how it's not addictive at all ad it apparently cures all diseases. And they're fucking addicted to it, they can't even handle taking a break for a few days.

Smoking weed is fun as hell and all, but goddamn how do people let it control their life so badly. That is an addiction, and their delusional.



I've never met anyone like that




Me either, and I know plenty of potheads...my block is full of them :lol:


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18871329 - 09/21/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hi OP,


smoke oregano instead. great for depression. real great taste, no addiction, no money spent on marijuana.




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18871348 - 09/21/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My experience is the same  as OP's

smoked daily up to 3.5gs, when I stopped it changed my thoughts for the worse/depressed , and urge to smoke

the urge to smoke lasted a long time, still have it 1-2 years later and I know if I smoke every week that it will be everyday automatically

so yes, addicting
most drugs are addictive, coffee too, but weed is more addictive because it makes you feel good and very relaxed

I bought weed instead of paying my rent, that's how much I used to smoke,
borrowed money from parents to smoke it, even though I lived at my own house
and sat around all day smoking instead of doing anything

don't do it everyday, unless you want to :-)
only do if your life situation supports it
stable job, extra money every month(it quickly becomes expensive, $600 a month or more),stable living

I don't have problem with people smoking it though... my life situation didn't support it because I was sick with kidney stones, used it as pain relief.. bad idea (mostly because of the system not wanting to help me then)

if it wasn't for the system I probably wouldn't have had problems with weed (the biggest problem was not receiving any help for my pain, and then smoking more)

a good way is to always try and stop one day, ask yourself if you're happy
if not you must have been doing something wrong

I can still smoke every x months one night with friends, and still be happy next day

and my mood has gotten much better since stopping, no negative thoughts ever since smoking it last, seems I only get negative thoughts with everyday use(not because of just 1 nights smoking)


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18871367 - 09/21/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Marijuana is addictive just like almost any psychoactive drug has the ability to cause psychological addiction.


In heavy users a physical tolerance develops as well, the brain actually turns down the CB1 receptors affected by THC, while the CB2 responsible for the beneficial health effects, remain fairly unchanged.


I smoke daily and have a lot of problems when I stop smoking suddenly.

Addiction becomes more clear when you smoke high THC low CBD strains.

There is a decent amount of articles out there on CB1 down regulation if anyone wants to learn more/.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: lessismore]
    #18871372 - 09/21/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it's more fun without tolerance, much cheaper too

take 1-2 puffs, booom

instead of smoking 1-2 joints ;P

everyday use of any drug should only be done if your life situation supports it
(and if you really want, moderation is much better, everyday use is suffering soon)

the only way to be yourself is without drugs,pills,stress


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: lessismore]
    #18871375 - 09/21/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love all that weed hate here. Yeah, it's addicting for sure. I still think it's funny when a bunch of people that pop benzos like candy and buy rc's like they're going out of style complain about how terrible and addicting weed is.

I took a long break after smoking 2-3 grams a day for years. Sure, it sucked ass for a week or two then I got over it. Quitting benzos, caffeine and amps was a hell of a lot more difficult for me personally.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #18871405 - 09/21/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think most people here are confusing addiction with habitualism.  i know tons of people eho smoke out of habit.  i know no one who has trouble quitting. 

i think these "over the top" potheads you hate take a lot of flack.

how many people on here become obsessed with mycology or cacti?

Now if there was a chance to make psychedelics legal do you not think there would be an influx of people spouting positive information and obsessing in the hope that in spreading information amd allowing society to become accustomed to it, it may become accepted and legalized.

If weed were 100% recreationally legal, i bet the number of over the top stoners would fade.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #18871430 - 09/21/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IMO it's just in response to flat out denial that addiction to weed is possible. Yes, many people can take it or leave it, but others continually build up higher and higher tolerances until they're buying more than they can really afford, flip out and lose their shit when they can't get it, etc etc. Some like to characterize the psychological component of addiction as "weak," but without it there is no addiction.


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    #18871435 - 09/21/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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how many people on here become obsessed with mycology or cacti?




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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18871439 - 09/21/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not saying op is a troll but he definitely wants to ruffle some feathers, cone on this is the shroomery, its like one guy posting "shrooms are evil!" What kind of a response do you think you will get? I don't get withdrawal symptoms, the slight discomfort for some people I believe is completely mental and have trouble sleeping because your used to taking it. When I take benadryl a few nights its harder to fall asleep without it, but that's not a withdrawal symptom come on guys.


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    #18871446 - 09/21/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the slight discomfort for some people I believe is completely mental and have trouble sleeping because your used to taking it.




You basically described addiction and withdrawal symptoms right there.  They ARE withdrawal symptoms, but they are not severe.  Just because it doesn't make your life a nightmare doesn't mean it's not addiction.


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    #18871514 - 09/21/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Withdrawal symptoms alone don't make an addiction either, even if they're strong. All kinds of medications (including ones that aren't fun or even psychoactive) can cause some kind of unpleasant withdrawal, and some of them are dangerous to stop suddenly and must be tapered off gradually. If you never enjoyed the drug in the first place though, you're not really going to miss it after you get through the withdrawal period. Once that period is over, there's no reason to subject yourself again to a drug that was never enjoyable in any way. People relapse because they enjoy something, not because they have somehow lost the ability to choose not to take it. That can be framed as "weakness" if you like, but it applies to drugs with strong with strong withdrawal just as it does to ones with weak withdrawal (as well as to addictive behaviors that don't involve drugs at all.)


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: psi]
    #18871686 - 09/21/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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People relapse because they enjoy something, not because they have somehow lost the ability to choose not to take it.




This right here. Addiction has 100% more to do with the individual than it does with the substance.


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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #18871719 - 09/21/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park

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Rat Park was a study into drug addiction conducted in the late 1970s (and published in 1980), by Canadian psychologist Bruce K. Alexander and his colleagues at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, Canada.

Alexander's hypothesis was that drugs do not cause addiction, and that the apparent addiction to opiate drugs commonly observed in laboratory rats exposed to it is attributable to their living conditions, and not to any addictive property of the drug itself.[1] He told the Canadian Senate in 2001 that prior experiments in which laboratory rats were kept isolated in cramped metal cages, tethered to a self-injection apparatus, show only that "severely distressed animals, like severely distressed people, will relieve their distress pharmacologically if they can."[2]

To test his hypothesis, Alexander built Rat Park, an 8.8 m2 (95 sq ft) housing colony, 200 times the square footage of a standard laboratory cage. There were 16–20 rats of both sexes in residence, an abundance of food, balls and wheels for play, and enough space for mating and raising litters.[3]:166 The results of the experiment appeared to support his hypothesis. Rats who had been forced to consume morphine hydrochloride for 57 consecutive days were brought to Rat Park and given a choice between plain tap water and water laced with morphine. For the most part, they chose the plain water. "Nothing that we tried," Alexander wrote, "... produced anything that looked like addiction in rats that were housed in a reasonably normal environment."[1] Control groups of rats isolated in small cages consumed much more morphine in this and several subsequent experiments.






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Re: People who smoke marijuanas annoy me [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18871736 - 09/21/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18871755 - 09/21/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park

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Rat Park was a study into drug addiction conducted in the late 1970s (and published in 1980), by Canadian psychologist Bruce K. Alexander and his colleagues at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, Canada.

Alexander's hypothesis was that drugs do not cause addiction, and that the apparent addiction to opiate drugs commonly observed in laboratory rats exposed to it is attributable to their living conditions, and not to any addictive property of the drug itself.[1] He told the Canadian Senate in 2001 that prior experiments in which laboratory rats were kept isolated in cramped metal cages, tethered to a self-injection apparatus, show only that "severely distressed animals, like severely distressed people, will relieve their distress pharmacologically if they can."[2]

To test his hypothesis, Alexander built Rat Park, an 8.8 m2 (95 sq ft) housing colony, 200 times the square footage of a standard laboratory cage. There were 16–20 rats of both sexes in residence, an abundance of food, balls and wheels for play, and enough space for mating and raising litters.[3]:166 The results of the experiment appeared to support his hypothesis. Rats who had been forced to consume morphine hydrochloride for 57 consecutive days were brought to Rat Park and given a choice between plain tap water and water laced with morphine. For the most part, they chose the plain water. "Nothing that we tried," Alexander wrote, "... produced anything that looked like addiction in rats that were housed in a reasonably normal environment."[1] Control groups of rats isolated in small cages consumed much more morphine in this and several subsequent experiments.






Just some food for thought.




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An interesting book on similar topics:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Natural-Mind-Looking-Consciousness/dp/0395911567


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