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3 charged for LSD trafficking
    #18863213 - 09/19/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

September 19, 2013

Covington County, Alabama- This past Friday the 13th was definitely unlucky for three alleged drug traffickers from Florida.

Drug Task Force assistant commander David Harrell said the three men croseds paths with the Florala Police Department at approximately 5 p.m. that afternoon.

“Florala Police Officer Paul Adams made a traffic stop on a vehicle driven by William Corey Forrest,” Harrell said. “Officer Adams spoke with Forrest and the vehicle’s passengers, Michael Edwin Day and Eramis Ian Preyer. After noting that the three men seemed unduly nervous during the stop, Officer Adams walked his K-9 narcotics partner, Bella, around the vehicle.

“Bella indicated the presence of narcotics, and the subsequent search of the vehicle revealed large amounts of LSD in the trunk and on the passenger’s side floor board,” Harrell said.

Adams then contacted DTF agents, who responded to process the scene.

“LSD isn’t something we see on a regular basis here in Covington County,” Harrell said. “I appreciate Officer Adams’ work in this case as he helped remove a large quantity of a very dangerous narcotic.”

Forrest, 21; Day, 20, and Preyer, 23, all of Lynn Haven, Fla., were each charged with drug trafficking and possession of a drug paraphernalia, booked into the Covington County Jail and held on a $203,000 bond.

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Ogla]
    #18863215 - 09/19/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Maharishi_2_U] * 2
    #18863279 - 09/19/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

“Bella indicated the presence of narcotics, and the subsequent search of the vehicle revealed large amounts of LSD in the trunk and on the passenger’s side floor board,” Harrell said.

Since when could drug dogs detect the presence of LSD?


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: DeadPhan]
    #18863289 - 09/19/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There were obviously other substances present.
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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
    #18863367 - 09/19/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

dogs are NOT typically trained to find LSD as the guy said it isnt something they see alot... however they can hit on chemicaly smelly stuff like medications. i highly doubt the dog knew anything was in the trunk. either the dog alerted falsly to get a reward lol or its been known that  cops will make dogs alert so they can gain access to areas without a warrant.  what do you think is more likely ?


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: shopdropper]
    #18863389 - 09/19/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they were prob known for selling drugs...cops couldent get a warrent so they do the next best thing. pull them over with the top asshole officer who will do anything to catch a bad guy and further his career. then  let said cop break all the rules just to arrest a few guys spreading some LOVE.:mad2:


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: DeadPhan]
    #18863421 - 09/19/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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“Bella indicated the presence of narcotics, and the subsequent search of the vehicle revealed large amounts of LSD in the trunk and on the passenger’s side floor board,” Harrell said.

Since when could drug dogs detect the presence of LSD?




that's the first thing I thought too...


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: redeyesmj]
    #18863433 - 09/19/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"helped remove a large quantity of a very dangerous narcotic.”"

propaganda :-(

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Mushie23]
    #18863623 - 09/19/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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“Bella indicated the presence of narcotics, and the subsequent search of the vehicle revealed large amounts of LSD in the trunk and on the passenger’s side floor board,” Harrell said.

Since when could drug dogs detect the presence of LSD?




that's the first thing I thought too...




There's a good chance the dog didn't indicate shit.  They just knew something was up and brought a dog out and regardless of what the dog did or did not do, they were getting their pig faces up in that whip.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Shpongle1]
    #18864024 - 09/19/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My point exactly.  Cops train dogs to signal for drugs even when there are none.  Whoever said before there were other drugs in the car, there's a good chance that would of been mentioned as with most busts in news mention even the smallest amount of other things found

What I'm saying is, dogs don't smell LSD. But the cops, with suspicion, will trigger the dog to alert so they have probable cause.

However, I'd like to see how this should, because I know it will, hold up in court.

I'm sure they will say there must of been latent odor of drugs that were present in the vehicle in the past that led e dogs to alert,  and even if not, it's all over with anyway.  Anytime they bring a dog in, you better believe your getting searched whether you have anything or not. And unfortunately, its their way around illegal search and seizure every time.  No doubt.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: DeadPhan]
    #18864111 - 09/19/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've been released without search after a dog failed to detect drugs in my car. funny thing is, I had some. pills though


i just keep my car piled high with shit in the backseat like i live out of it. once cops see that shit they become too lazy to search me


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: morrowasted]
    #18865429 - 09/19/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"After noting that the three men seemed unduly nervous during the stop..."  aka "I don't have any reason or suspicion to search or question you but this is my way to try and legally gain probable cause." Very similar to the, "There was a burglary in the area and you fit the description of the suspect."  I fucking hate cops and their lies. They're desperate to do anything to get a bust even if they have nothing to go on.  I was pulled over once and illegal searched.  I even watched a cop lift the leash on a K9 near the rear of my car so that the dog was being choked and it's front legs were airborne and it was struggling just to breath.  During this time, it happened to scratch furiously on my trunk because it was panicking and it's legs were struggling to support it's body so it could breath.  The cop said, "You see that, it just hit your trunk. I have probable cause."  The asshole clearly did it on purpose. What a fucking psychopath.

BTW, I was clean cut, had no criminal record, he had no suspicion to go on whatsoever, there were no drugs or weapons in the car and there haven't been ever, and I spoke respectfully with him when we talked after he had pulled me over.  He was just a dick (and most likely had a very small one).


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: EastBayRay]
    #18865626 - 09/19/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: THIHT]
    #18867853 - 09/20/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I just don't see how anyone should be pulled over and have LSD found. That's just stupidity on their part.  Sad, but still...


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: runningfox2002]
    #18868478 - 09/20/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:omgz:

I always feel bad when people with LSD or mushrooms get busted. So many lives could have potentially been impacted in a positive way. But NOPE. The drugs that have positive impacts on lives are ceased and destroyed.

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18869729 - 09/20/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Probably not alot of real LSD coming from Florida to Alabama. Considering its hard to get in Florida and highly priced, why smuggle it out of state? Probably going to be LSD bust number 100 that ends up not being LSD. I always thought this shit was done after a roadside reagent test. Apparently they charge you with LSD and make you prove it's not in court.

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18870400 - 09/21/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Charge you with one thing and make you prove otherwise in court....

Amazing how our legislative system continuously finds a way to wipe their ass with our constitution even with it being on display and locked up under glass.  Fuckin crazy.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Shpongle1]
    #18870436 - 09/21/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your signature couldn't be more relevant to this story.

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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18870637 - 09/21/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Probably not alot of real LSD coming from Florida to Alabama. Considering its hard to get in Florida and highly priced, why smuggle it out of state? Probably going to be LSD bust number 100 that ends up not being LSD. I always thought this shit was done after a roadside reagent test. Apparently they charge you with LSD and make you prove it's not in court.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/5/prweb10747590.htm




It's about $400 a sheet in Sebastian, Vero Beach, Key West, Tampa, Miami and in abundance with the old hippies. I'm not sure where you got the idea there's no LSD in Florida being all the way in Canada... The youngers may have NBOMe but people middle-aged and up have the goods. rumor I always heard is there's a family in FL that supplies all the states around it in addition to local. but they're a lot smaller than the family out west. They might not even be around anymore actually. my dad says in the 80s it seemed like all the blotter here in Ohio was from Florida. there was a different print every weekend.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: D.M.T]
    #18870766 - 09/21/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Based on all the posts on sites like this. Lack of arrests in Florida for LSD. When i type in "LSD in Florida" in google it's all negative. I might be in Canada now but I am own property in the state, want to buy it? Anyway the family is a bunch of bullshit, i discredit anyone who spews that nonsense. I never said anything about the 80s either. Even Texas had lots of LSD then. 
This wont be LSD it will nbomes, and the drug scene in Florida is shit. You rule for fake weed though.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18870818 - 09/21/13 04:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you have no idea brother. I hate Florida would never live there, but I know a guy here in Ohio who sells ten packs to Florida every weekend. that's in 2013. they sell it 400 a sheet there in several cities. your points are moot. all I ever see is people griping anywhere on the internet that nowhere has LSD but truthfully they just don't know the right people. it literally is everywhere. there's people selling sheets in my small bumfuck town in Ohio so you bet they have to be doing the same in Florida. NBOMes are an epidemic anywhere you go, I've seen several prints mentioned in Canada that were NBOMe for instance being sold as LSD. Canada gets a lot of legit unperf too just like Florida has WoW everywhere in the right circles. I don't believe in the family either, I meant family more as in a chain or distribution network. family has in a way become the lingo for such a thing in the LSD world. fuck I've even heard of LSD in Japan and they're supposed to only have heroin and ridiculous priced hash.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Shpongle1]
    #18880303 - 09/23/13 12:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Charge you with one thing and make you prove otherwise in court....

Amazing how our legislative system continuously finds a way to wipe their ass with our constitution even with it being on display and locked up under glass.  Fuckin crazy.






Well, on the one hand that is very fucked up, and is not the kind of thing I would ever support. On the other hand, since I'd guess between 75-90% of these people selling NBOMe are selling it as "LSD" it pretty much serves them right.

And I'm really hoping this bust was NBOMe and not LSD.

Would help me believe in karma, and all.  (Sometimes I really need that :shrug: )


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: Shpongle1]
    #18883299 - 09/24/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If anyone had bothered to read the ENTIRE article, they would have noticed that all occupants were charged with 'possession of drug paraphernalia' which is obviously NOT directly related to the "odorless chemical compound" LSD.

That having been said, YES - cops lie...YES - cops exaggerate...YES - newspaper reporters misinform


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How a drug dog can find the 'odorless' chemical LSD [Re: DeadPhan]
    #18883367 - 09/24/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The short answer is...IT CAN NOT BE DETECTED - as long as it was in a crystal or liquid form!

However; ANY & EVERY form of cotton paper blotter can be detected!

No...I didn't make a contradiction. Crystal (pure LSD) is odorless, liquid (crystallized LSD made fluid by mixing crystal with high proof alcohol) is not odorless but dogs aren't trained to hit on booze...not yet anyway!
And while I can't speak of other delivery methods (gel, etc.) I do know that crystal LSD & liquid LSD,by themselves, will not adhere to cotton paper; however, by introducing an AMPHETAMINE (a drug dogs are trained to detect,) to the production process the now modified LSD molecule will indeed adhere to a paper delivery system.
This is also why higher amphetamine content blotter is considered 'speedy' or 'weak' ...which can also be the result of blotter being exposed to sunlight...UVA & UVB radiation mutate the molecular structure of the LSD molecules, which is why the clear liquid will turn yellowish over time.

But, be that as it may, I'm still gonna stick with my previous post & say its because of the drug paraphernalia found, which thereby gives them unlimited access to the ENTIRE vehicle.


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Re: Probably not a lot of real LSD coming from Florida... [Re: my3rdeye]
    #18883402 - 09/24/13 03:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No where in the article does it state the origin of the LSD, only the home state of the defendants.
There is no road or direction of travel to indicate a Florida origin of the substance;
Therefore, they could've been on their way BACK to Florida after making a run to Colorado or California. Which would explain traveling thru Alabama.


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Defining "FAMILY" for D.M.T & my3rdeye... [Re: D.M.T]
    #18883699 - 09/24/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The term "family" is most notably connected with the original grateful dead band members, their significant others & their closest friends, most famously portrayed in the oak tree portrait.
Later, this term was more loosely applied, as my3rdeye stated: a distribution network, or more commonly, a close knit set of friends who used their 'connection' to a chemist as a means of making money and spreading the love. Charlie Manson had a 'family', Timothy Leary had a 'family' , but more importantly, it is used to identify the group/gang of drug dealers...who feels safe dealing with a drug GANG, now who feels safe dealing with a LSD family? When I found mine they literally said, 'welcome to the family'
Dead lore states that in the days of the dead, there where essentially 3 main groups/gangs/'families' responsible for the vast majority of the LSD distributed during the various years of touring, which would also explain 2 things:
1. There was always an increase of LSD availability whenever The Dead came to town, regardless of the year, of course after touch of grey popularity increased and so did availability after the shows.
2. After the death of Jerry Garcia and the infamous LSD lab in a missile silo in kansas, the price has increased 5 times the amount (a 100 hits was around 100 on the final tour, now 500)


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Re: How a drug dog can find the 'odorless' chemical LSD [Re: efilnikcufecin] * 1
    #18883868 - 09/24/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I do know that crystal LSD & liquid LSD,by themselves, will not adhere to cotton paper; however, by introducing an AMPHETAMINE (a drug dogs are trained to detect,) to the production process the now modified LSD molecule will indeed adhere to a paper delivery system.
This is also why higher amphetamine content blotter is considered 'speedy' or 'weak' ...




BS.  First of all it makes no sense to use another drug, like amphetamine, to make the LSD "adhere" to the cotton paper.  There's no reason whatsoever the molecular structure of an amphetamine would be required to make LSD stay on a blotter.  They would no doubt use a different, less costly and likely unrestricted chemical if this were actually necessary.

Not only that, doses get tested all the time in chemical laboratories and the vast, vast majority that contain LSD do not contain any additional drugs.

Also, adding amphetamine to a mixture of liquid or crystal LSD would in no way "modify the LSD molecule" like you stated.

Stop spreading misinformation.  Dispelling misinformation about drugs is, in a lot of ways, exactly what this place is all about in my eyes.


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Re: How a drug dog can find the 'odorless' chemical LSD [Re: efilnikcufecin]
    #18884971 - 09/24/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I do know that crystal LSD & liquid LSD,by themselves, will not adhere to cotton paper; however, by introducing an AMPHETAMINE (a drug dogs are trained to detect,) to the production process the now modified LSD molecule will indeed adhere to a paper delivery system.
This is also why higher amphetamine content blotter is considered 'speedy' or 'weak' ...which can also be the result of blotter being exposed to sunlight...UVA & UVB radiation mutate the molecular structure of the LSD molecules, which is why the clear liquid will turn yellowish over time.


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Re: 3 charged for LSD trafficking [Re: grasshopper914]
    #18886010 - 09/24/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you can bet their vehicle was seized as well as any money.

I wonder how many doses they had.


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