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Drug Test Time!!!
#18808226 - 09/06/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My friend Gonzo has a drug test coming up next week.
- For the past couple months, Gonzo smoked about 2 small bowls of medical marijuana approximately 3 times per week. - The last time he smoked was Monday Sep 1st - Gonzo exercises pretty much every day, is in decent shape, drinks lot of water, maintains a good diet, and is in good health.
What day will Gonzo safely pass this test? What can Gonzo do this weekend to increase his chances? Could Gonzo get away with smoking a little this weekend?
t y v m
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Alan Rockefeller
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Gonzo shoud absolutely not smoke before the test.
Chances are that he will pass.
He should drink a lot of water the day of the test. And get up early and do almost nothing, no physical activity.
He can increase his chances by eating some creatine and b vitamins. But not too much, just a little.
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Alan Rockefeller said: Gonzo shoud absolutely not smoke before the test.

With a delicate balance of cunning linguistics, sweet talk, apathy, and B.S., Gonzo might be able to push the test out to the week of Sep 15th.
Is this worth it to buy time 'till then, or will Gonzo be OK the week of Sep 8th?
-------------------- "Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station "Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.
Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (09/06/13 11:06 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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I would not try to buy time, that looks pretty suspicious. The detection window for drugs, even weed, is pretty short if you drink a good amount of water the morning of the test.
How short it is I do not know, however it is nowhere near the theoretical maximum.
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I posted this sometime ago. I'll include the link as posted but it no longer functions and I wasn't smart enough to save the entire pdf.
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A closer evaluation of the study by Smith-Kielland, Skuterud, & Morland indicates that even with the factors identified as limiting its relevance, the average time to the first negative urine sample at a cannabinoid cutoff of 20 ng/mL was just 3.8 days for infrequent users and only 11.3 days for frequent users (1999). In the Swatek study, eight out of ten chronic subjects tested below the 50 ng/mL cutoff after an average of only 13 days (range 5-19 days) (1984). Johansson and Halldin identified only one study subject that tested positive for longer than 14 days with all thirteen subjects having an average last day with detectable levels (using a 20 ng/mL cutoff) of 9.8 days (1989). In other words, despite the potential factors restricting interpretation, those study subjects with exceptionally long cannabinoid detection times (30-plus days) were just that—exceptional.
http://www.ndci.org/sites/default/files/ndci/DCR.VI__2.pdf
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Even smoking twice a day the shortest amount it takes me to pass a test is usually 5 days or so. Obviously the amount of time it takes varies wildly between folks, a skinny friend told me it takes him 2-3 weeks before he can pass a test. Just as Alan suggested, I try to exercise more and take more b-vitamins to increase my metabolic rate.
I used cheap drug tests I picked up from the dollar store to test myself beforehand just to be on the safe side.
Good Luck!
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So Gonzo was supposed to hear back on Monday, but it's been very quiet; he hasn't heard anything in two days.
Do you think that it's safe for Gonzo to burn?
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OK so this thing scheduled next week in the afternoon.
By then it will have been at least three weeks since Gonzo's last puff.
A few questions:
1. Is it a good idea to fast the day of the test? One would think not, but maybe there's something that Gonzo doesn't know. 2. Also, would drinking distilled water be a good idea? Again, probably not, but worth the a question. 3. Should he skip his morning run?
Gonzo was planning on drinking lots of water, doing a hard morning run early, working up a good sweat, and peeing a few times before the test.
-------------------- "Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station "Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.
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-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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-------------------- "Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station "Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.
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luvdemshrooms said: Do not exercise. Do not fast.
http://scienceblog.com/66608/stoners-beware-exercising-might-lead-to-a-positive-drug-test/
I've been saying this for years but nobody believed me. I was going to come in here and say it too.
You can exercise up to a week or so before the test but after that all you want to do is eat tons of fatty foods. I'm glad it finally has been tested so I can tell people to shut the fuck up when they say you have to sweat it out.
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Just use some clean piss, why take the risk of failing?
-------------------- It drinks the alcohol and abstains from the weed or else it gets the hose again. -Chemy The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed "If we are going to have a war on marijuana, the least we can do is pull the sick and the dying off the battlefield." -Neal Levine (MPP) I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid
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Re: Drug Test Time!!! [Re: fastfred]
#18869916 - 09/20/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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As if this wasn't hard enough, I went on a little foray yesterday and stumbled across these big guys...

bitter taste, bruising slowly blue... nice, fresh, beefy specimens...
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Nobody checks for mushrooms.
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Say a prayer for Gonzo...
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For posterity: - 27 days. - Ate a big bowl of high fat, greasy chili the night before the test. Based on comments above stating that THC is stored in fat, the idea was to flood the body with lots of fatty calories so that it wouldn't burn stored fat and release THC on the day of the test. - Third piss of the day. Lots of water.
-------------------- "Inspiration ~ Move me brightly ~ light the song with sense and color ~ hold away despair ~ more than this I will not ask ~ faced with mysteries dark and vast ~ statements just seem vain at last" --Jerry Garcia, Terrapin Station "Officer, I'm going to remain silent, and I would like to speak with a lawyer. I'm not resisting, but I don't consent to any searches.
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ch1ck3n.s0up said: Ate a big bowl of high fat, greasy chili the night before the test. Based on comments above stating that THC is stored in fat, the idea was to flood the body with lots of fatty calories so that it wouldn't burn stored fat and release THC on the day of the test.
That's not sound reasoning. More likely to increase turnover in fat cells.
In any case, it will be a miracle if you fail.
-FF
-------------------- It drinks the alcohol and abstains from the weed or else it gets the hose again. -Chemy The difference between the substances doesn't matter. This is a war on consciousness, on our right to the very essence of what we are. With no control over that, we have no need to speak of freedom or a free society. -fireseed "If we are going to have a war on marijuana, the least we can do is pull the sick and the dying off the battlefield." -Neal Levine (MPP) I find the whole "my drug should be legal but yours should be illegal" mindset disgusting and hypocritical. It's what George Bush and company do when they drink a cocktail and debate the best way to imprison marijuana users. -Diploid
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Re: Drug Test Time!!! [Re: fastfred]
#18942672 - 10/06/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fastfred said:
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ch1ck3n.s0up said: Ate a big bowl of high fat, greasy chili the night before the test. Based on comments above stating that THC is stored in fat, the idea was to flood the body with lots of fatty calories so that it wouldn't burn stored fat and release THC on the day of the test.
That's not sound reasoning. More likely to increase turnover in fat cells.
Please explain.
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fastfred said: In any case, it will be a miracle if you fail.
Gonzo already passed. w00t!
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ch1ck3n.s0up said:
Please explain.
Higher glucose = higher fat storage, fat storage requires energy = stored fatty acids broken down to provide ATP for storage of more fatty acids = potential THC relase.
My memories of biochem really don't justify me speculating so much, but you're better off not rocking the boat metabolically if you want to let sleeping dogs lie (like THC stored in fat).
-FF
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Re: Drug Test Time!!! [Re: fastfred]
#19042991 - 10/27/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol, I showed up to my last drug test high on meth.
The trick is what is known as "recatheterization". It is pretty easy if you've got a bit of knowhow. Store up a good amount of clean piss ahead of time in a sterile containers, and add a few drops of ciprofloxacin antibiotic eye drops and freeze it. And buy a catheter and 60cc syringe. And some lidocaine jelly.
When test time comes around, stop all fluids 8 hours before the drug test. Thaw the antibiotic spiked urine. Right before the test, insert the catheter with copious use of lidocaine jelly, and inject a good 500cc of clean urine. Pull the cath and then piss a tiny bit to clear the lidocaine.
Works like a fuckin charm. Literally impossible to catch or fail if you do it right. Extreme, but worth it.
Edited by torpex (10/27/13 10:03 PM)
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