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st1llnox
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Let's talk about Adderall
#18862944 - 09/19/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It seems a lot of people on here who could benefit are being denied it owing to their "comorbid substance abuse" as a youknowwhat-chiatrist would say.
It also seems like it's popular here to abuse it, but mainly among people who, like myself, have legitimate prescriptions. I've never taken it recreationally, but I've taken extra to stay up before. 
Also, after getting a call 10 minutes after leaving the pharmacy that my 120 Adderall prescription is ready for pickup, they just called and said...
[Your prescription] has been delayed and we're waiting on further information from your insurance carrier
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. There goes Calculus for the next couple days, unless the Hyperfocus Goddess could let me zoom in on math just this once...
In other news, I got a legit Adderall source. Psychiatric APRN. She has all the flaws in her reason of psychiatrists I've dealt with (i.e. necessarily bundling a mood disorder with my obvious ADHD, which is certainly possible but it's stupid to say "wait, so every time you did this one drug it made you angry and psychotic? Mood Disorder NOS until we get to the bottom of this, then...").
To her credit, I told her:
-I've rampantly abused weed, K2, DXM, and alcohol -I've been to rehab but left -I want some fucking Adderall
And I got some fucking Adderall. You guys that like how this drug makes you feel are lucky, lucky dogs... I guess I don't totally mind the euphoria at first (it's just so speedy and anxious...) but then the comedown dysphoria makes me prone to suicidal ideation when I first go on it, and then it just averages out as my body gets used to it to a drowsy, drone-feeling.
Ya'll nukka's got ADD? 
How you guys feel about Adderall?
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox]
#18862973 - 09/19/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have a legitimate prescription and i HATE the shit. unless i have some serious stupid tasks.
its alright for like 3 hours then it absolutely sucks. i dont get how people abuse it.
i dont remember the last time i actually took em.
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox] 3
#18862975 - 09/19/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. There goes Calculus for the next couple days, unless the Hyperfocus Goddess could let me zoom in on math just this once...
well she definitely would, but if you're dependent on adderall then that won't happen.
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st1llnox
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: c0exist]
#18863017 - 09/19/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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g00ru said:
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st1llnox said: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. There goes Calculus for the next couple days, unless the Hyperfocus Goddess could let me zoom in on math just this once...
well she definitely would, but if you're dependent on adderall then that won't happen.
I'm not (although many here will no doubt assume otherwise). Come to think of it, I was reading Stephen Wolfram's book on math and computing while waiting for the appointment.
Adderall definitely helps enhance even hyperfocus, or at least gives you more ability to give salience to whichever task is MORE important.
I'm not sure there's any basis that people who are "dependent" on Adderall who have ADHD can't hyperfocus, but dependent could mean so much in this context (for example, I may be psychologically dependent on it for being able to feel like I can accomplish stuff, while someone else may be dependent on it akin to classical addiction, e.g. it goes up their nose).
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c0exist said: i have a legitimate prescription and i HATE the shit. unless i have some serious stupid tasks.
its alright for like 3 hours then it absolutely sucks. i dont get how people abuse it.
i dont remember the last time i actually took em.
QFT. The comedown dysphoria (at first) is the worst. I was feeling suicidal when it wore off last night (just fantasizing, nothing more) but I actually felt a lot better when I realized, "Hey, I hadn't taken Addy for a couple days and it wore off so this is probably just my dopamine system down before it rebounds...".
At least I felt better.
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox]
#18863042 - 09/19/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i feel ALOT better since i stopped taking adderall 4-5x a week.
never took more than 20mg once a day (im prescribed 50mg daily)
but im still so sensitive to it that even the IR version if i took at 8am i would have trouble sleeping at night. so it was pretty hellish.
i like having them on hand though. really a good thing to have if you do need.
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st1llnox
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: c0exist]
#18863060 - 09/19/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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c0exist said: i feel ALOT better since i stopped taking adderall 4-5x a week.
never took more than 20mg once a day (im prescribed 50mg daily)
but im still so sensitive to it that even the IR version if i took at 8am i would have trouble sleeping at night. so it was pretty hellish.
i like having them on hand though. really a good thing to have if you do need.
Yeah... when I have my way, I'd describe my usage of them as "heavy PRN". I just finished my bottle from almost 2 months ago right after my appointment.
I did find that as long as I took weekends off and such so I don't get too stuck in that "drone" feeling, that once my body was used to it there was no problem with mood or how my body's physically feeling.
I once got up to 50 or maybe even 60, but it'd take a lot of convincing to get me to take 60mg of Adderall daily for any considerable length of time.
That's the point in time where tolerance holidays, rather than dosage boosts, should be used to manage tolerance.
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox]
#18863071 - 09/19/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah. if i took my full doseage i would never sleep.
i dont see how anyone could take that. but i mean whatever..
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox]
#18863075 - 09/19/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stupid thread and stupid drug
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: st1llnox]
#18863080 - 09/19/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My favorite Adderall are the 30 MG XRs. The IRs tend to give a quicker rush, but the ups and come downs are to frequent for me to enjoy. I like to take two 30 mg XRs in the morning and be productive ALL day. BTW Nox, how do I cam up on tiny chat? Do I hit 'start broadcasting'?
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: c0exist] 1
#18863087 - 09/19/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ADD and ADHD are the biggest load of shit "diseases" ANYONE could be legitimately diagnosed with one of them.
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: c0exist]
#18863088 - 09/19/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's a crutch. if you are serious about postgraduate studies you will simply need to develop study habits. I have been an amphetamine user and abuser on and off for years to the point where I can usually tell when someone else is on amphetamines. The repetitive motions, the width of the eyelids, the motions of the jaw. These symptoms manifest in most users even at so-called medicinal levels. During undergraduate I noticed a lot of amphetamine use. Kids were taking them all over the place just to study after parties and shit. It does help for things like that, there is no doubt, but that kind of lifestyle simply won't work for graduate school. There are two of my classmates in my grad program (out of 36) who I suspect use stimulants "medicinally"; but even these individuals do not ever use them as a way of bouncing back from a hangover or cramming for a test or whatever. Most of the students who make it in grad school have simply developed study habits that allow them to do their work effectively.
The simple fact of the matter is that basically everyone has some cognitive benefits from the right dose of amphetamine. The question becomes, should everyone be taking amphetamines? I think the answer is no. The returns diminish, and later on down the road you are left with no self-discipline and a lot of responsibility. Take it from someone who is just now having to learn how to manage his study habits in graduate school. It's not fun.
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anyway i preferred vyvanse for getting work done
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volcomstoner said: ADD and ADHD are the biggest load of shit "diseases" ANYONE could be legitimately diagnosed with one of them.
not really, at least not a legitimate diagnosis.
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I don't necessarily have a problem with these meds, but lets be honest, they are the academic equivalent to steroids - performance enhancing substances. You're kinda cheating.
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Didn't that dude admit some shit about ADHD on his death bed? I'm on a phone or I'd post the link. On topic though, I've used adderall every way you could use it, and it was great at first but you'll eventually realize that it's a shitty drug to be on... long term... Or even at all.
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volcomstoner said: ADD and ADHD are the biggest load of shit "diseases" ANYONE could be legitimately diagnosed with one of them.
not really, at least not a legitimate diagnosis.
I must say I completely disagree. IMO drugs like adderall are for lazy people with bad study habits. I honestly don't care if you use amphetamines to get through school. But don't give me that bullshit that you have a legitimate disease and you "need" amphetamines to function. Because you don't. It's an addictive drug and the more you use it the more you actually won't be able to function without it, because your dependent on it. Not because you have a disease.
If a doctor tried prescribing me ADD meds, I would never see that doctor again.
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MystiqueMushroom said: Stupid thread and stupid drug
So why are you here? 
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luvdemboomers said:
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volcomstoner said: ADD and ADHD are the biggest load of shit "diseases" ANYONE could be legitimately diagnosed with one of them.
not really, at least not a legitimate diagnosis.
I must say I completely disagree. IMO drugs like adderall are for lazy people with bad study habits. I honestly don't care if you use amphetamines to get through school. But don't give me that bullshit that you have a legitimate disease and you "need" amphetamines to function. Because you don't. It's an addictive drug and the more you use it the more you actually won't be able to function without it, because your dependent on it. Not because you have a disease.
If a doctor tried prescribing me ADD meds, I would never see that doctor again.
You know, my new Adderall dispenser, an APRN, put it best just this morning:
Some people are treated for ADHD who don't have it and it helps, some of them it hurts. Some people have ADHD and aren't treated and do fine, while others don't live up to their potential (I was this way in high school and it pains me deeply to think of the scholarships I could have earned, the schools I could have gotten in with my ACT score, etc...) Some have something else entirely mistaken for ADHD Some have ADHD and its mistaken for something else (i.e. bipolar disorder, or "oh, sugar makes him hyper, etc.").
ADHD is real, but this is revealing, especially about our country: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd
The book Boys Adrift by Dr. Leonard Sax is a FANTASTIC resource that really tears Adderall a new one, and really shows how stupid the pharmaco-pathologization of everything is.
I personally am the PICTURE of ADHD, but what boy isn't?
To guide the dialogue and conclude my point (and to specify what I'm getting at...)
ADHD is a real condition. It is not a disease though... it just so happens that 6 year old boys are NOT FUCKING EVOLVED TO SIT IN A CHAIR 7 HOURS A DAY.
When I told a friend I worked with at a MAJOR software corporation that I'm at McDonalds, she said "Oh, jeez, [C--------- Corporation] would take you back in a heart beat, and our team would love to have our intern back". I said, "Why would I go back to [Corporation]?".
I'm never going to do cubicle work, I'm sorry. I'm not evolved for that.
ADHD is not a disorder. It's a problem adapting and adjusting to the lifestyle we're expected to live that thousands of years of evolution primed us to live the opposite way compared to.
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: morrowasted]
#18863295 - 09/19/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: anyway i preferred vyvanse for getting work done

Vyvanse is way better than adderall. I never feel too wired and can actually sleep on the stuff
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Re: Let's talk about Adderall [Re: DeeBee]
#18863313 - 09/19/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i want some. there. talked about.
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