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I want to quit my job and become a caregiver
#18862822 - 09/19/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hate my job. Work way too much, way too hard, and I am not happy even though I have money, the job just makes me miserable. And my life is about me not my job. I am wondering if there is any caregivers on here who wouldn't mind explaining the start up procedure and the ins and outs of beginning this venture. I am young, 21, have a medical card in a legal state, and I know what I am doing on the people side and managing all of that well, I know pretty well what I am doing financially, and I know a good amount but not anywhere near enough I am sure. What are some good books to read, places to get information? How long did it take you to begin seeing any sort of profit? Appreciate any advice.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: psychotikfuck]
#18867166 - 09/20/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: LunarEclipse]
#18867334 - 09/20/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not to mention having to wipe some old persons shit up.
I'm pretty sure the original poster is talking about becoming a caregiver for a medical marijuana patient (i.e. grow marijuana plants for income). The title of the thread is a bit ambiguous but comments like "have a medical card in a legal state" gave it away.
To the original poster, I would recommend buying a copy of Marijuana Horticulture by Jorge Cervantes, and be prepared to realize that unless you already have the space and privacy necessary to grow, as well as a list of patients who are in need and not being adequately serviced (whom you can take on as private clients), it's going to be a fairly difficult way to earn financial freedom. It can be done, but the market at least here in California is already well serviced and there is likely to be increasing regulation on the horizon. In order to make a good living off of this, it will require a significant investment of time, money and risk.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: geokills]
#18867346 - 09/20/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not to mention having to wipe some old persons shit up.
I'm pretty sure the original poster is talking about becoming a caregiver for a medical marijuana patient (i.e. grow marijuana plants for income). The title of the thread is a bit ambiguous but comments like "have a medical card in a legal state" gave it away.
Oh sorry read it but went right over my head. Actually thought he meant he was licensed as a nurse or something. LOL.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: geokills]
#18872242 - 09/21/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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geokills said:
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Not to mention having to wipe some old persons shit up.
I'm pretty sure the original poster is talking about becoming a caregiver for a medical marijuana patient (i.e. grow marijuana plants for income). The title of the thread is a bit ambiguous but comments like "have a medical card in a legal state" gave it away.
To the original poster, I would recommend buying a copy of Marijuana Horticulture by Jorge Cervantes, and be prepared to realize that unless you already have the space and privacy necessary to grow, as well as a list of patients who are in need and not being adequately serviced (whom you can take on as private clients), it's going to be a fairly difficult way to earn financial freedom. It can be done, but the market at least here in California is already well serviced and there is likely to be increasing regulation on the horizon. In order to make a good living off of this, it will require a significant investment of time, money and risk.
I have patients, just from where I grew up I know so many people that need pot at any given time that I don't think it would be an issue. The space and privacy is my main problem but even still I have ways around that they just are not as convienient as I would like. Here in Michigan, if you talk to anyone dispenaries are just garbage. They sell horrible weed for insane prices and good weed for the equivalent of a car payment. Then you have all of these 'caregivers' who are not even growing their own driving around the state all day with their 'delivery services' and usualy these guys are the type to have just enough balls to hook up with a guy selling them the shit for the same price they sell their own clients, so the difference that has to be made is huge and people actually pay it. its crazy. If I had my own G OP going and I could set my own prices I would make a decent amount of money on the side and make my clients happy, if not reach financial freedom as well
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: psychotikfuck]
#18977581 - 10/14/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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As far as I know, the current laws of legal states clearly state any money received for medicine is not for profit. Meaning you can only recover operational costs and possibly the time involved. I doubt you can make a legit living off of it, keep your 9-5 and provide medicine as a hobby/learning experience.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: Destitute] 1
#19063418 - 10/31/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Galactic_Smurf said: As far as I know, the current laws of legal states clearly state any money received for medicine is not for profit. Meaning you can only recover operational costs and possibly the time involved. I doubt you can make a legit living off of it, keep your 9-5 and provide medicine as a hobby/learning experience.
I was just about to say this.
Getting weed is meant for donations. At least in my state, you CANNOT profit off of marijuana. You pay for a "service" and get the weed in exchange. Any money made from it goes straight back into gas and overhead that you require in order to keep delivering medicine to patients.
If you start bringing in stacks of cash as a care giver and you are living off it, I think you would end up in a great deal of trouble. Thats of course unless you know how to get around living on untaxable income
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: Herbologist]
#19065543 - 10/31/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Galactic_Smurf said: As far as I know, the current laws of legal states clearly state any money received for medicine is not for profit. Meaning you can only recover operational costs and possibly the time involved. I doubt you can make a legit living off of it, keep your 9-5 and provide medicine as a hobby/learning experience.
I was just about to say this.
Getting weed is meant for donations. At least in my state, you CANNOT profit off of marijuana. You pay for a "service" and get the weed in exchange. Any money made from it goes straight back into gas and overhead that you require in order to keep delivering medicine to patients.
If you start bringing in stacks of cash as a care giver and you are living off it, I think you would end up in a great deal of trouble. Thats of course unless you know how to get around living on untaxable income
That is not the case. Non-profits definitely allow compensation for those involved. There are plenty of restrictions and laws that address this but it is a common misconception that those involved aren't compensated at more than just an hourly rate.
For what it's worth, anyone familiar with the California medical scene is well aware that plenty of dispensary owners and affiliates are making quite a bit of money.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: Brubbles]
#19069143 - 11/01/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well of course the dispensaries are making money. Most of the owners are bonehead corporate zombies just in it for the money not the patients
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: psychotikfuck]
#19081655 - 11/03/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not to mention having to wipe some old persons shit up.
I'm pretty sure the original poster is talking about becoming a caregiver for a medical marijuana patient (i.e. grow marijuana plants for income). The title of the thread is a bit ambiguous but comments like "have a medical card in a legal state" gave it away.
To the original poster, I would recommend buying a copy of Marijuana Horticulture by Jorge Cervantes, and be prepared to realize that unless you already have the space and privacy necessary to grow, as well as a list of patients who are in need and not being adequately serviced (whom you can take on as private clients), it's going to be a fairly difficult way to earn financial freedom. It can be done, but the market at least here in California is already well serviced and there is likely to be increasing regulation on the horizon. In order to make a good living off of this, it will require a significant investment of time, money and risk.
I have patients, just from where I grew up I know so many people that need pot at any given time that I don't think it would be an issue. The space and privacy is my main problem but even still I have ways around that they just are not as convienient as I would like. Here in Michigan, if you talk to anyone dispenaries are just garbage. They sell horrible weed for insane prices and good weed for the equivalent of a car payment. Then you have all of these 'caregivers' who are not even growing their own driving around the state all day with their 'delivery services' and usualy these guys are the type to have just enough balls to hook up with a guy selling them the shit for the same price they sell their own clients, so the difference that has to be made is huge and people actually pay it. its crazy. If I had my own G OP going and I could set my own prices I would make a decent amount of money on the side and make my clients happy, if not reach financial freedom as well
There is no such thing as a legit dispensary here in michigan. Just places with people willing to take a risk. IIRC the only legal transaction you can make is from a caregiver to that caregiver's patient. If the laws have changed, let me know and Ill ammend my statement. If you want to make your full-time job pot growing, be ready to skate on the outside edge of legality, if not being illegal in a few ways. Can have 12 plants but only 2.5 oz of bud? The second you chop even one of your plants you're now over the limit. Not to mention all the technicalities about having a sign at the entrance to your grow and the door on it locked with the only key in your possession and all that other BS.
In regard to learning how to grow, its really a trial and error/personal experience thing. No amount of book or forum reading will prepare you(completely), and what one plant might like its sister may die from. I have had 10 seeds of the same strain turn into 10 different phenotypes, that each needed their own nute schedule. If I had given plant 1 the same nutes as plant 6, I would have killed it. This is where working with clones and the same genetics for more than one grow comes into play. During my first couple years of growing I had an expert of 30+ years impart to me this wisdom; you have to go through every problem before you know how to prevent it. The way I keep mold and pests away will be different then how you will need to do it. That said reading anything and everything you can get your hands on cant hurt, unless its misinformation. I once read a book that listed the only possible cause for bent branches was deer, and another that said a ph of 7 is ideal 
You also need the privacy, a trusted patient base, and enough room to actually grow more than a few plants. Getting caught with 1 gram over your limit will get you a charge as if you did not have a card at all. Growing pot has a very distinctive smell, and IME even non smokers can easily tell the difference between smoked pot and growing plants. Jets of 80 degree air shooting out of your basement/window are also very noticeable, as is sudden increases in power bills. You'll need at least 2 separate rooms (veg and flower), loud vortex fans to keep your lights from exploding, and unless you're wayy out in the boonies, a pretty good carbon filter.
Dont let what I say discourage you, I just want you to be prepared. Growing pot isn't just sitting back, smoking weed, and getting payed. It is, however, very rewarding when done correctly. Correctly just requires tons of care, and honestly enough luck that a neighbor/patient/ex gf doesn't get your entire operation busted. Honestly it comes so close to being illegal that you need to be aware of that risk. In order to maintain an income of roughly 400$/week, I would need to have at least 12 flowering plants at any given time.
My suggestion would be to start growing, legally, without the intention of replacing your job. If by your 2nd/3rd harvest its apparent you can live off what you're growing, then by all means go for it 
I wish you all the luck in the world, and if you have any random growing questions feel free to pm me
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: Chuckfinely]
#19108510 - 11/09/13 12:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not to mention having to wipe some old persons shit up.
I'm pretty sure the original poster is talking about becoming a caregiver for a medical marijuana patient (i.e. grow marijuana plants for income). The title of the thread is a bit ambiguous but comments like "have a medical card in a legal state" gave it away.
To the original poster, I would recommend buying a copy of Marijuana Horticulture by Jorge Cervantes, and be prepared to realize that unless you already have the space and privacy necessary to grow, as well as a list of patients who are in need and not being adequately serviced (whom you can take on as private clients), it's going to be a fairly difficult way to earn financial freedom. It can be done, but the market at least here in California is already well serviced and there is likely to be increasing regulation on the horizon. In order to make a good living off of this, it will require a significant investment of time, money and risk.
I have patients, just from where I grew up I know so many people that need pot at any given time that I don't think it would be an issue. The space and privacy is my main problem but even still I have ways around that they just are not as convienient as I would like. Here in Michigan, if you talk to anyone dispenaries are just garbage. They sell horrible weed for insane prices and good weed for the equivalent of a car payment. Then you have all of these 'caregivers' who are not even growing their own driving around the state all day with their 'delivery services' and usualy these guys are the type to have just enough balls to hook up with a guy selling them the shit for the same price they sell their own clients, so the difference that has to be made is huge and people actually pay it. its crazy. If I had my own G OP going and I could set my own prices I would make a decent amount of money on the side and make my clients happy, if not reach financial freedom as well
There is no such thing as a legit dispensary here in michigan. Just places with people willing to take a risk. IIRC the only legal transaction you can make is from a caregiver to that caregiver's patient. If the laws have changed, let me know and Ill ammend my statement. If you want to make your full-time job pot growing, be ready to skate on the outside edge of legality, if not being illegal in a few ways. Can have 12 plants but only 2.5 oz of bud? The second you chop even one of your plants you're now over the limit. Not to mention all the technicalities about having a sign at the entrance to your grow and the door on it locked with the only key in your possession and all that other BS.
In regard to learning how to grow, its really a trial and error/personal experience thing. No amount of book or forum reading will prepare you(completely), and what one plant might like its sister may die from. I have had 10 seeds of the same strain turn into 10 different phenotypes, that each needed their own nute schedule. If I had given plant 1 the same nutes as plant 6, I would have killed it. This is where working with clones and the same genetics for more than one grow comes into play. During my first couple years of growing I had an expert of 30+ years impart to me this wisdom; you have to go through every problem before you know how to prevent it. The way I keep mold and pests away will be different then how you will need to do it. That said reading anything and everything you can get your hands on cant hurt, unless its misinformation. I once read a book that listed the only possible cause for bent branches was deer, and another that said a ph of 7 is ideal 
You also need the privacy, a trusted patient base, and enough room to actually grow more than a few plants. Getting caught with 1 gram over your limit will get you a charge as if you did not have a card at all. Growing pot has a very distinctive smell, and IME even non smokers can easily tell the difference between smoked pot and growing plants. Jets of 80 degree air shooting out of your basement/window are also very noticeable, as is sudden increases in power bills. You'll need at least 2 separate rooms (veg and flower), loud vortex fans to keep your lights from exploding, and unless you're wayy out in the boonies, a pretty good carbon filter.
Dont let what I say discourage you, I just want you to be prepared. Growing pot isn't just sitting back, smoking weed, and getting payed. It is, however, very rewarding when done correctly. Correctly just requires tons of care, and honestly enough luck that a neighbor/patient/ex gf doesn't get your entire operation busted. Honestly it comes so close to being illegal that you need to be aware of that risk. In order to maintain an income of roughly 400$/week, I would need to have at least 12 flowering plants at any given time.
My suggestion would be to start growing, legally, without the intention of replacing your job. If by your 2nd/3rd harvest its apparent you can live off what you're growing, then by all means go for it 
I wish you all the luck in the world, and if you have any random growing questions feel free to pm me
thank you for the reply man, sounds like you know your stuff. I am not really concerned about legal issues, I mean, I know so many people who get away with this stuff who do shady things as well like selling to more than 5 people etc. even having too much around... I mean, I know only a few personally, but hear of even more and know even more indirectly, people are breaking the rules and disrespecting the shit everywhere, and I don't even plan on doing that, at least to that extent, I mean I am in it to make money and I plan on doing so while not being one of these guys who charges outrageous prices. Selling weed isn't supposed to be completely risk free, It's almost what makes it worth it when it works out. I'd figure it out trust me. I have been around these kind of people the culture and the ins and outs of legality issues and I live in an area full of dumbasses to learn from. I don't ever want to depend on living off of this by any means but I feel like until I find a new job I would like to pursue it as a hobby atleast, and see what I can do. I would like to get my own place before I do this so I don't have to rent property or something like that, go through the hassle of finding a friend with property I can rent out, and have it be legal... I just can't afford to do that right now as I just quit my job, was just too much physically on my body. I really know marijuana like the back of my hand and I can see it being a great way of making profit while helping people by being an informed and respectable businessman/caregiver. I just need to find that middle stepping stone to have the financial leeway to start up and be serious about it and professional, while having my own space to do so at. Hopefully I find work soon, I feel so screwed, I am broke, Even with a good job all my money goes to bills, I have no college degree, and my only experience is in a field where I can no longer work due to injury. Ha. I really don't know what I am going to do. Need to make this work though.
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Re: I want to quit my job and become a caregiver [Re: LunarEclipse]
#19109700 - 11/09/13 09:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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LunarEclipse said: No comment, then.
Holy shit that sounds glorious.
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