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Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams?
    #18862516 - 09/19/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hello all. So I've tripped on shrooms 3 times so far, all very enjoyable trips really nothing to complain about as far as "bad trips" go. All 3 times I took an eighth, and there was never really a point where it got too intense for me or anything. My guy who I've bought from the last 2 trips has been selling the shrooms to me in taffy, he folded in the equivalent psilocybin powder to an eighth into each one.

Well, he just told me today that he made some more but these have the equivalent of 4.5gs in each, as opposed to just 3.5. My question is, since I can handle 3.5 relatively well, how big of a step up is 4.5? I want to have fun but I don't want to be tripping so hard that I'm uncomfortable or anything. Anyone with experience please share your opinions :smile:

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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: jesslet]
    #18862558 - 09/19/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Do you know if it's from the same batch of shrooms? If they are the same batch then I think it'd be fine. You'll be tripping pretty hard but you'll be good if you could handle 3.5 a few times.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: 11nova]
    #18862577 - 09/19/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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11nova said:
Do you know if it's from the same batch of shrooms? If they are the same batch then I think it'd be fine. You'll be tripping pretty hard but you'll be good if you could handle 3.5 a few times.




Not too sure, but I think I can safely assume. He gets them from the same guy at least, but I guess I can't be sure. I think I might just go for it, and if things go south maybe I can learn something from it haha


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: jesslet]
    #18862593 - 09/19/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well you gotta try a higher dose sometime right? I mean there could be a difference in potency. I'd go for it.

Just make sure you have a sober sitter in a safe, calm environment with no obligations for a long time.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: 11nova]
    #18862605 - 09/19/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

4.5 is the highest I've gone and it was much stronger than an eighth.  They might have been unusually potent, but I was writhing around in my bed naked for almost the whole time.  By no means was it a bad experience, but I don't think I would want to go any higher than that.  As you know these drugs are pretty unpredictable, so I can't say how you'll handle it. Going from 3.5 to 4.5 isn't a massive difference, but it can make the experience much stronger than you might expect.

So in conclusion.... expect the unexpected.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: 11nova]
    #18862618 - 09/19/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Turn off phone, hide it

Lock doors

Be alone, no visitors... no family, no strangers (if you don't feel comfortable tripping alone, have a sitter)


set/setting/dose, then you can have as good trips on 4 and 5g
I've done 4 and 5 some of my first times, on chocolates

5g was too intense, due to powder+chocolates  , wouldn't go there again soon
4g was too intense at times/much of the trip, but very nice, my favorite dose I think, total immersion (only do this dose when you feel ready in life) - I think it's a good -once-in-a-while trip , wouldn't go there often

powder chocolates seem to intensify the trip a bit, compared to eating them raw
or maybe luck/potent batch...(I usually add the aborts into the powder too...)

always turn off phone+hide phone+lock doors, then there is nothing to fear

I haven't repeated the 4g or 5g trip in 2 years :-) , they were nice, at least the 4g, but too intense, you have to be ready in life to process it

wouldn't eat 4.5g with chocolates, maybe 3-4g personally, then redose if it isn't enough
chocolates are usually potent (I usually eat 3g with them vs 3.5-4g raw)

(make your powder into chocolates is easy.. put cup on stove, put powder and chocolate in, stir, put in freezer 5mins)


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: lessismore]
    #18862657 - 09/19/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you don't think you're ready just don't do it.  Going over 4g isn't what I would call a recreational dose, you're gonna have to be ready for what your mind throws at you.  Personally I enjoy dosing high because I know I can handle it.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18862715 - 09/19/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, listen to yourself

if in doubt, take less and work your way up (you can always redose..)

know your set/setting/dose always, know the dose you expect your mind being able to handle

5g is heavy territory, 4.5g is too if they are potent

and powder is more intense than eating them raw I think... (larger surface area, hits much/a bit harder often)

also expect your mind to cease at any dose >4g, don't try to control it, let go

fear is normal on those doses, the fear you've taken too much :wink:
lasted most of the trip for me, it will be a deep trip, very deep,maybe feel a bit too deep

and noone is ever ready I think :wink: can't put words on my 4g experience or 5g (would change your trip anyway, but good trips both of them, just very deep)
might as well go there if you feel confident about it..

don't expect anything, just dive in , in safe setting

psytrance+lay down+blankets/pillows are essential IMO (progressive is pretty good for trips)


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: lessismore]
    #18863141 - 09/19/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

1 gm

Great advice from the folks above....

Something I do... Clean your house... Vacuum the carpets and clean the bathroom...
Do something good for someone that day... Help someone
Make sure you have drinks or tea available

High doses... I write myself notes... Put one on the door that says 'your tripping, stay inside'
Or on the stove 'don't cook while tripping' ... Might sound silly but

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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: jesslet]
    #18863251 - 09/19/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

from my experience a whole lot of stress and discomfort.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: tonpole]
    #18863272 - 09/19/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
    #18864687 - 09/19/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What's the difference between 2g and 3g?  That's where I'm at right now (not right now) but I'm thinking of making that jump.  2g was fine for me but with little visuals except closed eye.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: refried]
    #18865168 - 09/19/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

3 grams will be stronger, you should be able to handle it fine though.


The jump to 4.5 however could be epic, like you said if it goes south you'll be able to pull something out of it. It wont be anything to dramatic if you are use to 3.5, but it's gonna be significantly stronger. Although I don't fully believe the guy is being honest with the amount of shrooms those taffy's contain. Seems like he's inflating the numbers a bit based on your descriptions.


Edited by psilocybinjunkie (09/19/13 09:06 PM)


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18865214 - 09/19/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

cool, I'm gonna do it.  All I know is that the last two times I shroomed I weighed cracker dry shrooms to exactly 2.1 grams and had fun but never felt too out of it.  However, I once ate a random chocolate somebody gave me and that felt about 2x the strength of the 2.1 gram trips so I have no idea how much was in it.  I'd do it again for sure.


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: jesslet]
    #18866054 - 09/20/13 01:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

there is a 1 gram difference, hope this helped :thumbup:


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Re: Difference between 3.5 and 4.5 grams? [Re: gullhole]
    #18866343 - 09/20/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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