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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18860479 - 09/18/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: it's as if you are saying "life isn't black and white"
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#18860551 - 09/18/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
#18860557 - 09/18/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought so
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
#18860675 - 09/18/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: The next black person I see, I'm going to go up to them, shake their hand and pat them on the back and apologize that they have such horrible lives.
I can just imagine this in real life and this is it

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memes said: I should remember that when people are forced to challenge their own deep seeded viewpoints, they'll often ignore rationality and respond with things like:
"go to arizona and you'll feel the heat"; or "I see you typed ABC, but what about DEFGHIJKLMNOP? Clearly you have your head up your ass"
Stupidity 
And clearly none of this can possibly apply to you.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: DeeBee]
#18860741 - 09/18/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said: Why does everyone have to assume things about people just based on their appearance? That's the real problem in society.
TREX said:
And this is the mystery that will be forever unsolved until intelligence supercedes ignorance. Don't hold your breath people, it may be a loooooooong time before this ends.
Although I am going to go out on a limb here and say a lot of people (most?) do it to a certain extent whether they realize it or not. It seems to be ingrained within us by the people who raise us. It need s to stop at the source.
And I might add that a little bit of judging a person by looks can/may actually help save you from some danger at times.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
#18860757 - 09/18/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.
You're all so white (I am too), you don't even understand what privilege black people are talking about (I don't, fully).
It's not a privilege of money, or of the ability to drink from a certain fountain or drive a certain car. It's the privilege to avoid inherently negative stereotypes before doing anything to warrant the application of a specifically negative stereotype. That's as accurately as I can describe it. And I'm not sure it hits the mark.
I'm not here to debate, because it's clear all of your minds are not open to such an idea. You have your ingrained viewpoints - I get it. I used to hold them. Then I got battered in the head enough by my smart black friends - and now i see a little of the light. Just because I can see the light, doesn't mean I can feel the heat. I'll never feel the heat, i'm white.
BUT, until the people that are thinking this way just stop doing so it is a perpetuation of negativity. Someone has to be the first one to just let it go. No matter how hard, or how excruciating it may seem, just let the shit go. This goes both ways for anyone.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#18861050 - 09/18/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Martin Luther king and trayvon Martin went through the same things.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] 2
#18861513 - 09/19/13 02:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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White Guilt Wiccan 
I love how Memes and Wiccan are telling me what I know about the perspective of black people.
Please, go on and tell me more about myself. 
EDIT: I also reported racism in a pub post like 10 hours ago, and it's still there. Thought Wiccan would jump on that shit like a dog on a steak.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Everlong] 2
#18861569 - 09/19/13 03:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please, go on and tell me more about myself. 
You enjoy long walks on the beach, posting on the internet, and pictures of cats acting like dogs.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
#18861586 - 09/19/13 04:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please, go on and tell me more about myself. 
You enjoy long walks on the beach, posting on the internet, and pictures of cats acting like dogs.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18861623 - 09/19/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said: I get the fact that blacks are looked at constantly as if they've done something wrong, even when they haven't. I cant change the thinking of those people.
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VivaLaMushie said: I get the fact that blacks are looked at constantly as if they've done something wrong, even when they haven't. I cant change the thinking of those people.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] 4
#18861625 - 09/19/13 04:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Guys, please keep it civil and respectful.
So you knew the risk was enormous that the discussion would be anything but civil and respectful. And lo and behold, you find yourself locked into an altercation that revolves around a lack of respect for each other.
How can I be expected to consent to being made a mod again with this shit happening all the time? It's never anyone's fault in particular; it's just the predictable way in which certain topics consistently evolve into debates fueled by ad hominems and ill-disguised insults - and we are all part of it. All of us; users, admins mods; Americans, Europeans; white kids, black kids; rich kids, trailer park kids...there's no escaping it.
What is the point of having a moderator or an admin - or whatever function supposed to avoid discussions from going south - if the mod or admin is always, always part of it too, at one point or another?
This is not about me arguing that someone in particular fucks up. This is an argument for the fact that fuckups on this forum are collective, and the blame game simply doesn't work.
/end rant. Please do continue the 'debate'.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: koraks]
#18861909 - 09/19/13 08:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Guys, please keep it civil and respectful.
So you knew the risk was enormous that the discussion would be anything but civil and respectful. And lo and behold, you find yourself locked into an altercation that revolves around a lack of respect for each other.
How can I be expected to consent to being made a mod again with this shit happening all the time? It's never anyone's fault in particular; it's just the predictable way in which certain topics consistently evolve into debates fueled by ad hominems and ill-disguised insults - and we are all part of it. All of us; users, admins mods; Americans, Europeans; white kids, black kids; rich kids, trailer park kids...there's no escaping it.
What is the point of having a moderator or an admin - or whatever function supposed to avoid discussions from going south - if the mod or admin is always, always part of it too, at one point or another?
This is not about me arguing that someone in particular fucks up. This is an argument for the fact that fuckups on this forum are collective, and the blame game simply doesn't work.
/end rant. Please do continue the 'debate'.
Good post Koraks I think you would be a excellent moderator
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#18862016 - 09/19/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why did you give up mod status anyway, Koraks?
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#18862022 - 09/19/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For several reasons, but one of them is that I never felt comfortable with pretending to be part of a solution while I am very much aware that often, I'm part of the problem as well. And I love being part of the problem
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: koraks]
#18862029 - 09/19/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice answer, lol.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] 1
#18862141 - 09/19/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's lovely to see a group of intelligent people be divided on such a subject which produces prejudice and ultimately keeps the melting pot of BULLSHIT churning. You know that white kid back in the 60s who got his ass kicked by black kids for being white? He's always going to remember that savagery inflicted on him and have a special hatred for black males. The same goes for any type of racial division in history. Not only has trauma been inflicted individually on many people of different races by other races but on a cultural level as well. Whoever thought the idea of enslaving different cultures, turning them against one another for whatever mindless reason and then trying to build a civilization around it all, is a fucking idiot or a mastermind.
There is nothing to debate cause there's nothing for you to control but your personal actions. All this attention and debate on a fallacy could be better used for sociological solutions so in 100 years we don't have a 3rd generation mutation of fucking retards who despise something because it was culturally ingrained.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: jvm]
#18862179 - 09/19/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante]
#18862185 - 09/19/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Zappa banned for almost a month now probably cause of this shitty ass bait thread. What a joke. If you can't stand the heat then don't create the thread. Oh well at least now it was successful, right?
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: gzuf]
#18862210 - 09/19/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didnt ban him.
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