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ZebraStripes



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please help id, just curious.
#18857470 - 09/18/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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its been raining a lot down in sfl and mushrooms are abundant, but Ive never seen these near my area so it sparked my curiosity.
Habitat: south florida, underneath two oak tree on the grass, there were many of them in clusters.
Gills: gill color is a beige yellow, with solid gills
Stem: short stubby stem solid all the way.
Cap: purple cap, with sizes varied from 1in to 5in for the bigger ones i saw.
Spore print color: not yet taken
Bruising: dark purple almost black bruising
Other information: smells a lot like the psychoactive ones i grow.
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o8u
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: ZebraStripes]
#18857500 - 09/18/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's a bolete, most mushrooms you'll find with a pore surface instead of gills are. None of them contain any drugs, as far as I know, though many are edible. You can try keying it out here: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/boletales.html
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Tangich


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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: ZebraStripes]
#18857567 - 09/18/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ZebraStripes said: smells a lot like the psychoactive ones i grow.
I know I have uncommonly keen sense of smell, but I seriously can't understand how a bolete can smell similar to Psilocybe cubensis?? This is not a personal slight at you or anything, seriously, people write 'smells like a store bought button mushroom' here all the time for species that smell nothing like it. Just goes to show that smell is extremely subjective, even more difficult to describe or compare, and cannot be an identifying factor.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Tangich]
#18857644 - 09/18/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have smelled a lot of boletes, but never smelled one that smelled like cubensis / cucumbers / farinaceous.
OP's mushroom might be close to B. campestris. I wouldn't eat it, there are a lot of species in that group and some of them cause gastrointestinal problems for some people.
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/boletus_campestris.html
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ZebraStripes



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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: ZebraStripes]
#18857678 - 09/18/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the link o8u & alan, very helpful. as for the smell it was just when i cut into it that it really smelled mushroomy now that its been sitting for a while it really has no smell to it, i should have specified that, my bad.
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Byrain

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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Tangich]
#18857684 - 09/18/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Just goes to show that smell is extremely subjective, even more difficult to describe or compare, and cannot be an identifying factor.
Tell that to all the people who hunt for candy caps.
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generalsherman55
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: ZebraStripes]
#18857692 - 09/18/13 12:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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its some sort of bolete but one that i have never encountered before
but im going to assume the scientific name is chode bolete
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generalsherman55
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Byrain]
#18857701 - 09/18/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Byrain said:
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Tangich said: Just goes to show that smell is extremely subjective, even more difficult to describe or compare, and cannot be an identifying factor.
Tell that to all the people who hunt for candy caps.
thats a pretty rare instance for smell though. i brought a few jars to the elementary school and had a bunch of people smell them. then i asked what they smelled like. here were the answers:
cake donuts maple pancakes and then maple another dozen or so times
most other mushrooms simply smell like mushrooms
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Tangich


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ZebraStripes said: most other mushrooms simply smell like mushrooms
That's what I'm saying, to most people they all smell the same, Boletus smells like Psilocybe, Agaricus bisporus smells like Macrolepiota, and so on. I can recognized all the species I commonly pick by only smelling them, with 100% accuracy. Unfortunately I have never smelled candy cap lactarius, would really love to.
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generalsherman55
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Tangich]
#18857744 - 09/18/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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and to be fair i had dehydrated the candies so their smell was very concentrated
although despite that i too think most mushrooms smell rather similar i always smell each one. it has come in handy when going through a patch of candies that had stinky fish smelling look-a-like in the bunch. fucked with gills and the latex turned yellow after like 20 seconds. some lil poisonous look a like almost got into my bag of candy caps
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Byrain

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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Tangich]
#18858837 - 09/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Even if the quality of the information is flawed doesn't mean the feature is useless, it'd be like claiming spore prints are useless cause someone didn't describe the color correctly. And there are plenty of other examples than candy caps, take Agaricus for example, or mastutake, Inocybe, some Mycena, or even several Psathyrella species, or....
I think smell is most useful when you its taught in person, unfortunately you can't always do that, it took me quite a while to grok what farinaceous smelled like personally.
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Gravija
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Byrain]
#18859123 - 09/18/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet it took zero time for anyone to figure out what Inocybe smell like. I just want to add the oft neglected Mycena to that list. I found a Mycena that smelled like milk chocolate last month.
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Byrain

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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Gravija]
#18859154 - 09/18/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you mean? I've smelled several Inocybe with unusual and hard to describe smells. At the last shasta gathering there was one that smells like make up or something. And I did mention Mycena.
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Gravija
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Byrain]
#18859176 - 09/18/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ganzig
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Gravija]
#18859302 - 09/18/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I remember those Inocybe Byrain.
Chocolate Gravi? Really? Gotta link to an observation or something? I want to find chocolate mycena.
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Gravija
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Ganzig]
#18859615 - 09/18/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The foray leader collected them, which is good because I sure as hell wouldn't have.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Byrain]
#18859675 - 09/18/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Byrain said: What do you mean? I've smelled several Inocybe with unusual and hard to describe smells. At the last shasta gathering there was one that smells like make up or something. And I did mention Mycena. 
Inocybe, to me, always smell like green corn, like sperm, like fish or like cinnamon. I guess there are various shades of grey.
There is an Inocybe that smells like lilly of the valley, perhaps you found something in that group.
When I smelled it I did not get a sweet odor, but I guess when you found it, the smell was stronger.
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generalsherman55
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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Gravija]
#18860505 - 09/18/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gravija said: The foray leader collected them, which is good because I sure as hell wouldn't have.
do you mind if i pm you to discuss forays? ive never been on a formal one but i am going to mycological meeting next month and may go on a foray a few months from now.
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Byrain

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Alan Rockefeller said: Inocybe, to me, always smell like green corn, like sperm, like fish or like cinnamon. I guess there are various shades of grey.
A lot smell like that to me, one of the easier Inocybe smells to describe I think. Some others I have found smelled kind of fruity or some that had smells I don't have names for.
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There is an Inocybe that smells like lilly of the valley, perhaps you found something in that group.
When I smelled it I did not get a sweet odor, but I guess when you found it, the smell was stronger.
I still have them, but haven't scoped much lately because i've been too busy learning linux and living life. Sadly they lost all smell shortly after being picked, before everyone got there....
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Tangich


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Re: please help id, just curious. [Re: Byrain]
#18860940 - 09/18/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Byrain said: Even if the quality of the information is flawed doesn't mean the feature is useless, it'd be like claiming spore prints are useless cause someone didn't describe the color correctly.
Yes, but what I'm trying to say is, a person can always take a picture of a spore print and you can see it with your own eyes. Smell can only be described and compared to something else, which is never quite right. Smell is of course very important for identification if you are the one smelling it. But if you are trying to identify something here for a person who writes 'smells like the ones I usually trip on' or 'smells like a store bought button mushroom', it doesn't help much, does it?
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