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Anxiety for month after trip
#18860331 - 09/18/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dear mods, this is not a thread based on RC's it is simply what I took, this thread is however based on mental well-being. Ok so one and a half months ago I took 1mg of 25i NBOMe. Prior to this I have taken 800ug of LSD about 3 months before. No ill effects following first trip. I took the 25i at 3am while intoxicated off 6-7 beers and 2 dabs of thc wax, the trip was mostly counteracted by the booze an dI did not panic until the next night, I also smoked a lot of cannabis through out the trip, did not fall asleep till about 3pm the next day, when I woke up the next day I threw up and felt as though I was still tripping all the way through the whole night. I have smoked weed daily for about 2 years leading up to this and on the weekends for 2 years before that . Following my trip on 25i I did not feel normal at all and started expiriencing my first ever panic attacks. I had constant anxiety 24/7. After a week I quit weed. Then I started waking up at 4:30 a.m with panic attacks. Now I no longer wake up with panic attacks. I also do not experience extreme panic attacks anymore, however I still have 24/7 anxiety symptoms. I have hundreds of tiny floaters when I look at the sky, and occasionally at night I will get color full flashes of visual snow in my peripheral. I also have blurry vision, and sensitivity to light. Today I was starring at the carpet and it began to move as though I was tripping, this has happened several times while I was looking at the computer screen from a long time. For the month after the trip I was taking 5htp, then stopped taking it. After stopping the 5htp I lost my tinnitus(I do not know if there is a connection). Right now I just feel a strange feeling in my head as though I am disconnected and my vision is off. I am fairly certain it is something along the likes of derealization/depersonalization. I just dont feel normal. I saw a psychiatrist however he did not know what hppd was or visual snow, but he said I was expiriencing what was most likely anxiety and prescribed me Zoloft. I was wondering if anyone has expirienced this with LSD or 25i, and if I should wait this out without the zoloft or if I should use the zoloft. I trust this doctor he has a background in drug abuse and also has worked with one of my relatives friends. Will I ever get back to normal? lol. I feel a lot better but I am still like trapped behind this screen, on one side there is me and on the other side is reality. Almost like a strange 24/7 weed high mixed with anxiety and horrible vission. Im going through hell, but just trying to keep m yhead up, anyone have any similar expiriences please reply. Thanks!
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18860453 - 09/18/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds tough, man, hang in there. Most people say the mood effects go away after a while but it could take a few months. Treat yourself well. Can't help you more than that I've had anxiety but not trip-induced.
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18860462 - 09/18/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know but I personally appreciate you sharing your story. Recently I have heard so many similar stories about nBome. Last week I listened to a story about a guy who had used another RC with a 3 letter acronym and he was having the same issues two months later, plus blackening of his scrotum, and heart palpitations.
With so much access to the classics like shrooms, lsd, mescaline...and so much information coming out on the bad side of these newer research drugs....I do not understand why folks would potentially subject themselves to the long term negative side effects of such unproven substances.
Not ragging on you bro, but in hindsight I am betting you would take that trip back if you would have known you would have these kinds of side effects, this long after the trip.
Goodluck and I seriously hope things turn out well for you sooner than later.
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squidson
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Also is it normal to randomly like think a phrase said by your friend or something when you are falling asleep. I am most defiantly not hearing voices but imagine if you were having a panic attack or you were falling asleep and your head was racing and you kind of had a thought as if one of your friends was saying it, but you arent hearing it you are thinking it. It usually happens when I am in the threshold of sleep but it also happens rarely durring a panic attack. I told the psych about it, and he didnt say anything.
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18860562 - 09/18/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wouldn't suggest zoloft. It's just bigpharma poison. Get completely sober for at least a week. Exercise as much as you can, and drink lots of water. Then see how yer feeling
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squidson
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hmmmmmmmmm im scared for my life dawggggggg
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18860788 - 09/18/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Only if you say so
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Shining Cosmos said: I wouldn't suggest zoloft. It's just bigpharma poison. Get completely sober for at least a week. Exercise as much as you can, and drink lots of water. Then see how yer feeling
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No you will not get back 100% to normal but you will come very close to it. After you try psychedelics you will always be a little different. If you take the zoloft though you will be very far from normal and feel whacked out. I would highly recommend you do not take it and simply wait to feel normal again. Also try to avoid alcohol while tripping especially 7 beers, it will also help if you drink less alcohol while waiting to get closer to your normal equilibrium. Your body will get close to normal it just needs time, also nbome's in my experience cause more severe and longer lasting psychedelic after effects than other psychedelics but it does go away it just takes longer.
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: SteelPanther]
#18861693 - 09/19/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I forgot to add that I've had anxiety/ slight depression my whole life bt I've never had a panicattack before this and def not any physical symptoms
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18861859 - 09/19/13 07:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't read your post thoroughly yesterday because I was busy, but I did read the whole thing, and wont read it again until later today. Since you just mentioned that you had slight anxiety you'r whole life a theory of mine is that your normal anxiety is fueling this. Its possible that because nbome's do have noticeable lingering effects that your getting very stressed out weather or not you know it or try to, but stressing out about it only makes it worse. Then because you stress out and make it worse which is all mental you stress out more and so on. Lingering effects are completely normal and your probably just freaking out over them (subconsciously) and manifesting them as more serious than they are. I have used nbome's many times, and many people I know have used them many times. Unlike what an above poster said about negative side effects being common, in my experience they are not. I have to leave so I'm not going to type more.
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Shining Cosmos said: I wouldn't suggest zoloft. It's just bigpharma poison. Get completely sober for at least a week. Exercise as much as you can, and drink lots of water. Then see how yer feeling

Truthfully I had anxiety not from drug use, and getting on some nutritional supplements pulled me out of it. I also avoided all drugs, excersized, and still do, and of course drink water about all day long.
B complex, potassium and magnesium, a fortified protein shake...may make tons of difference.
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My first acid trip I got into a reeeaaally bad situation where I almost got jumped or at least that's what these people wanted me to think, and It took me awhile to get over it, I'm still not over it, but it doesn't effect me as much anymore. I've had some hostile dmt trips too. It takes some sobering up. When you're used to being high all the time being sober is a new high. Especially if you couple that with exercise or meditation.
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18864008 - 09/19/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try to relax, psychs of all kinds are powerful things. I once became spacy for about a year after an ego loss experience. Just try to re assimilate things and bring yourself back to a productive world.
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: Yogi1]
#18864704 - 09/19/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I took the 25i at 3am while intoxicated off 6-7 beers
Good. Valuable life lesson right there. Doing idiotic stuff has consequences. Now you know. Take the red pill, change, and never do it again.
OR, alternatively, continue combining booze with cheap dubious chemicals and then wonder in amazement why your brain chemistry goes to shit.
Zoloft. Really? 
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: Spacerific]
#18865188 - 09/19/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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this gives me much hope lol. Jsut the fact that someone else has felt spacey for a long time after tripping. however u didnt get panic attacks and blurred vission did u?
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18865741 - 09/19/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything will get normal again man, just eat healthy, exercise and do normal shit
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: squidson]
#18869687 - 09/20/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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squidson said: this gives me much hope lol. Jsut the fact that someone else has felt spacey for a long time after tripping. however u didnt get panic attacks and blurred vission did u?
18 months of something like what you're feeling - it'll get better - top things to do: stay sober, sleep regularly, stay sober, exercise, stay sober, eat well, stay sober, watch for anything that triggers worsening symptoms and avoid it, and of course stay sober. As for managing the anxiety - St. John's Wort, 5-HTP, Valerian Root, and Phenibut (but not daily).
Stay positive and stay sober
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: Yippie]
#18869842 - 09/20/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yippie said:
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squidson said: this gives me much hope lol. Jsut the fact that someone else has felt spacey for a long time after tripping. however u didnt get panic attacks and blurred vission did u?
18 months of something like what you're feeling - it'll get better - top things to do: stay sober, sleep regularly, stay sober, exercise, stay sober, eat well, stay sober, watch for anything that triggers worsening symptoms and avoid it, and of course stay sober. As for managing the anxiety - St. John's Wort, 5-HTP, Valerian Root, and Phenibut (but not daily).
Stay positive and stay sober 
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Re: Anxiety for month after trip [Re: Yogi1]
#18875175 - 09/22/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sometimes I find my own brain speaking by itself in the sleep threshold, making strangest, funniest and most useless talks imaginable. And Im not doing any strong psych since months neither I never abused of, exception made for pots. I had a bad trip once not so strong but a couple of year ago. I agree with Yogi1, just try to relax as much as possible and take back contact with your life. As far as you give it time, I think our brain is able to recover from lots of things. Consider this experience as a warning your body gave you: you just have to be more careful on the dangers you expose yourself and try to keep yourself relaxed in a safer manner instead of trying to break up anxiety with lots of poisons. Find a more peaceful life style, I had to do it last year since I was heavy drinking and pot smoking something like 4-5 times a week, then sleep 3-4 hours and went working in a factory with pretty heavy physical work. For months. I was able to got out for a couple of beer with some old time best friends of mine, drinking 1 or 2 liters of 10% abv shitty beer, rolling up 3 or 4 joints of nice chronic in a couple of hours maybe just commenting with a couple of sentences, without any new topic from me to discuss with them. Thinking backwards to this, it may be due to the bad trip, since I had it with some of my friends that I use to hang out with in that period, and I was a little bit disappointed since they didnt help me at all and they were also the major part of the cause that disappointed me. So I lost trust in them and decided to stop seeing them. Not so hard since we live not so close. So i started going out drinking with everyone that was, and I must consider myself blessed because I fought with this kind of troubles as I was still pretty young (25), and my body was still strong enough to hold it; but I reached a point in which I had difficulties in breathing before sleeping (oh well, actually I was breathing very slow, without any need or chance to do it faster), lost completely control on my life while i was trying to fix problems with other problems. One night I went to bed and I was sure that many of my organs was speaking to me, since they were strangely noisy, and I was so fucked up that I could understand their voices. I heard them speaking! and obviusly none of them was happy of my lifestyle, from what I could intrepret. Anyway I didnt kept much in consideration the fact, since the day after I had to keep on my daily nightmare once again. I can't say I'm completely safe now, but with time I saw great improvements on my brain: I used to be a brilliant guy before abusing, a little bit shy maybe. Then I became always more isolated from reality because of no rest I had in my poisoning schedule, but I didnt realized it until I saw again my ex girlfriend since long time and she pointed it out to me a couple of times. And anxiety grew on as I couldnt find a way out. So I started noticing every time I was having bad behaviours for myself (since I tend to be little bit too altruist forgetting myself) and with patience I tried to fix them. I decided to quit smoking pots, since I'm an homebrewer so it was easier then quitting the old bastard alcohol, and I'm moving toward different kind of experiences. I think that two things are important with drugs: thinking accurately about doses and sets, and allow the body to rest in case you find the need to do more often then advisable. And always try to document yourself from relieable sources and try to keep an healthy lyfestile as someone else already said. All of this may sound pretty spurious, but i ensure you that Im having improvements I never hoped for since I changed. I was feeling so confused that I figured I'd never be the same again. It needed time for me to find a way, but brick over brick I'm getting new hobbys, focusing on older ones, trying to be constructive as Yogi1 said too instead of destructive. I found also some new bad habits too, but now I know how to handle them, respecting myself. I have direct experience also of my older brother becoming very anxious on every topics you asked him because of drugs abuse. I couldnt realize it as I was young but now I see it clearly. Now luckily he's getting better too, he found a work he can sustain, a nice girl to hang out with and quitted bad habits. He's still a little bit that way, but because it's his psychological way of being, and we can see a lot more of humor in it. It's just a will work that needs patience and an hopeful attitude, but if I did it without much help from outside (except for my ex girlfriend, which is one of the most valuable persons Ive ever met) I think you can do it too without meds or docs. You have a whole great community that can help you! Well, I'm sorry for the long post, but I'm pretty fucked up today and I was doing similar thoughs yesterday night, at a party. Then trying to putting together pieces of my experiences while writing left me amazed because I discovered links I didnt realized before. And I didnt even planned to tell you the whole story of my past 3 years but it turned out useful to me too!
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