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zxczvbs
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Fruiting bulk substrate
#18859820 - 09/18/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi im fruiting a berry tek on a verm corm worm casting bulksubstrate. It is since 10 days closed as the first picture. How much do i have to wait to open the case, are the external fluffy cotton balls normal or i made a mistake? doesnt it have to start pinning something? Do i have to shake all to break myc like on jars? And next after the substrate is white open the case and let it start pinning? The strain is Huautla.
In part of the pics i see something greenish/blueish will it cause problems?

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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: zxczvbs]
#18859864 - 09/18/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty sure that green patch on there is mold and may be all the other white stuff is as well. Did you mix up the spawn and sub or just dump the jars in with the sub? You should take the trash bag off the top as it needs GE during incubation or bacteria and molds will take over. Also your coir looks a little coarse, did you get the fiber or husks, hard to really tell from a pic. Also you should try and trim the trashbag as close to the sub as you can, I have had issues hwhere the little flap of bag will create a pocket of mold that takes over the whole tub and you look to have more than a flap (your pics are very confusing, kinda just looks like a mess, is that TP in the one pic? And what is that hose for?). That white growth almost looks like soap foam or something, I have no idea what it is, looks like no myc I have ever seen other than some molds.
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: zxczvbs]
#18859888 - 09/18/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you incubating your bulk sub? If I'm reading that correctly , looks like your incubating your bulk sub at 31.5C which translates to 88.7F which means the internal temp of your bulk sub could be well over 90 degrees F which IMO is to high, if I were you I'd take that sub out of the incubator and let it colonize at room temp.
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Yeah he's right I just looked closer and noticed the mean green, I'd get that sub out of there ASAP and start over dude, sorry.
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tbagtag
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Looks like a bacterial issue from the looks of the mushroom mycelium. Shouldn't look all "bubbly" and "plastic". Also looks like you have something else growing on the substrate.
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provo
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I believe you have a contamination. Looks like trichoderma mold.
Make sure you get confirmation from someone more trusted than me, but be careful you do not spread mold spores all over your grow area or you may endanger all future projects to the same contamination.
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: provo]
#18859918 - 09/18/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking more closely and listening to other chime in I am 100% sure that tub is fucked. And yeah I saw the celcius and blanked it but if you are incubating a tub period its too hot. 75f whatever it is in Celsius is what you are aiming for.
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zxczvbs
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Hi i pced the substrate and and then mixed it equally with the jars in a glovebox. The white snow was on the jars, what that is seen from outside the box is polyfill, they look a like.
Well it was 27 C yesterday i just put the lamp closer to get 32.
Before dumping altoghether i will open the case. Do i have to put the trash bag covering the substrate, or just i put this open? Do i mix it altoghether, spray some water?
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: zxczvbs]
#18860215 - 09/18/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh my
This must be one of the new teks Anne always rants on about.
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Edited by maddchef (09/18/13 09:29 PM)
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: maddchef]
#18860225 - 09/18/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry dude. That tub is good as garbage
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zxczvbs
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: DeadPhan]
#18860258 - 09/18/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What intrigues me is that there wasnt green mold on the jars, or green all over here, on ether attemps, i let berries outside and they were all green on hours. I disconnected the lamp now only there is a bottle heater. I will let all open inside that fridge, with the lights out, to try is that ok?
awyway if this dont work, it will help me to learn. Do i spray some h202 on the bluish/greenish part?
So after spawning the substrate i only had to put the thing on room temp some days with the box closed and then open?
Edited by zxczvbs (09/18/13 08:57 PM)
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: zxczvbs]
#18861661 - 09/19/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
zxczvbs said: What intrigues me is that there wasn't green mold on the jars, or green all over here, on ether attempts, i let berries outside and they were all green on hours. I disconnected the lamp now only there is a bottle heater. I will let all open inside that fridge, with the lights out, to try is that ok?
anyway if this dont work, it will help me to learn. Do i spray some h202 on the bluish/greenish part?
So after spawning the substrate i only had to put the thing on room temp some days with the box closed and then open?
Are you not understanding what everyone is telling you? This grow is pointless, it's been contaminated with Trich. You will not win that battle.
The Green(Trich) might not have been present in the jars. It most likely occurred when you transferred to your monotub.
Toss & Try Again
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: FreeFlight]
#18861663 - 09/19/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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For real toss that shit, its only going to make things worse in the future by spreading spore all around your grow area. Your mycelium shouldn't look like suds coming out of a wash machine. I know you put in a lot of time to get to this point, but so did Timmy with Ol' Yeller, do the right thing and put that rabid tub out of its misery.
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zxczvbs
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: tbagtag]
#18865356 - 09/19/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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But my...
Ok will throw this, this is the verm an coir that i could get.
Is this ok?, the verm grain, is fine like coarse salt. And i couldnt find coir on bricks.
Edited by zxczvbs (09/19/13 09:52 PM)
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: zxczvbs]
#18865368 - 09/19/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That coir looks quite rough but I gather it should work. I might suggest a blender to grind it down a bit. Get a little finer. Verm looks o-ok to me
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: DeadPhan]
#18865372 - 09/19/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where are you from
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MastaBlastar
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Re: Fruiting bulk substrate [Re: DeadPhan]
#18888860 - 09/25/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya from you engarish (no offense) and the nature of you ingredients I am guessing you are not stateside or EU. I would recommend (if its possible) to order coir off amazon, I was told on here and have read in threads that that hush coir is not all that good and you want the fine fiber, but I could be wrong(or he could have been). The verm looks fine, just be sure it doesn't have asbestos in it for your own personal health as it comes in a trash bag and I am paranoid about shit like that, I make sure my bags say asbestos free. I recommend amazon if you can get stuff delivered to where you live from there.
And to be clear, YOU WANT N0 HEAT ON A BIG TUB LIKE THAT. NONE. It should create its own heat like a compost pile and your main concern is keeping the temp in the room at around 75f. Also, they need gas exchange so I would imagine that fridge is keeping it from breathing properly and creating a prefect environment for nasties to grow in while suffocating the myc of the fungus you want to grow.
Also trim that trash bag down tho the level of the substrate. What I do for the liner is cut a square about 4" larger than the opening of the tub all aroun (so if the opening on the tub is say 24"x15", cut your square 32x23") and then trim it to the level of the sub after mixing everything up. I only use clear tubs, as mushies need light to grow and a proper circadian rythm is very beneficial to their growth.
Look up Frank Horrigans TEK and FOLLOW THAT BITCH and I pretty much guarantee you will have success, SO LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE FUCKING TEK AND DO NOT TRY TO GET "SMART".
I am not trying to stifle creativity (not that you SHOULD listen to me, just trying to help), but I recommend having success using a proven method before trying your own methods. * GOOD LUCK MAN, LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT. *
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