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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18859417 - 09/18/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Individuals are responsible for their own actions. I firmly stand by that statement and I'll personally attest to the validity of it. No white men are holding the black race down, contrary to what the popular opinion would have you believe.
Look at any racial group, and I'm sure you'll find plenty of prominent issues as far as cultural norms and behaviour. No one is forcing any group to do anything to another in this country.

It's all a matter of irresponsibility and an unwillingness to be held accountable for your own actions. That goes for any ethnic group, as we're all representatives of our respective racial backgrounds 

Blacks destroy blacks as a culture and a racial identity, everyone else is generally left to clean up the mess of the self-destructive streak.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18859418 - 09/18/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
"It's the privilege to avoid inherently negative stereotypes before doing anything to warrent the application"

Even if this statement was true, what does it have to do with the self destructive behavior that permeates the black culture?

What does this have to do with black on black crime?  Having children that they can't afford?  Out of wedlock children?  Absentee fathers?  Fiscal irresponsibility?  Lack of educational ambitions?

Your white guilt theories are a failure, stop making excuses for controllable behavior.

"I can see the light" 

There is no light where your head is positioned the majority of the time. :smilingpuppy:





I said nothing about any of this.  All i did was quote:

"I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race. "

And then back up my claim when viva called me a racist and you called me a hypocrit.  Thanks for saying my statements were baseless based off of a bunch of things I didn't address, though.

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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
    #18859439 - 09/18/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

See that memes? thats what I meant.  All of a sudden you are now a white guilt theorist and on the receiving end of their ammo.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #18859449 - 09/18/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"Their" seems to be a whopping one or two people.
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: something super extreme] * 5
    #18859461 - 09/18/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wiccan likes to make a huge deal out of lame ass shit.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859467 - 09/18/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

VivaLaMushie said:
Wiccan likes to make a huge deal out of lame ass shit.



Yes the White Guilt Admin is good at his job


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859473 - 09/18/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Believe me, I am aware.
And unless you'd like to incur a five-day ban, I'd warn you not to say that where he can see.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #18859480 - 09/18/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
See that memes? thats what I meant.  All of a sudden you are now a white guilt theorist and on the receiving end of their ammo.



Doesn't bother me, too much.  Irked me at first - as my arguments seemed well thought out and explained to the best of my abilities.  Then again, I should remember that when people are forced to challenge their own deep seeded viewpoints, they'll often ignore rationality and respond with things like:

"go to arizona and you'll feel the heat"; or
"I see you typed ABC, but what about DEFGHIJKLMNOP?  Clearly you have your head up your ass"


Stupidity :shrug:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: something super extreme] * 1
    #18859482 - 09/18/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah he is sensitive. He takes things personally and then extends bans. Trust me, been there.

Oh well, there's always a few bad apples in the bunch.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859485 - 09/18/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:

Oh well, there's always a few bad apples in the bunch.



found one!


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
    #18859487 - 09/18/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh I know I'm bad, baby.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859500 - 09/18/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
I get the fact that blacks are looked at constantly as if they've done something wrong, even when they haven't. I cant change the thinking of those people.



Quote:

VivaLaMushie said:
I get the fact that blacks are looked at constantly as if they've done something wrong, even when they haven't. I cant change the thinking of those people.




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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes] * 1
    #18859502 - 09/18/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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memes said:
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VivaLaMushie said:
You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.




You're all so white (I am too), you don't even  understand what privilege black people are talking about (I don't, fully). 



It's not a privilege of money, or of the ability to drink from a certain fountain or drive a certain car.  It's the privilege to avoid inherently negative stereotypes before doing anything to warrant the application of a specifically negative stereotype.  That's as accurately as I can describe it.  And I'm not sure it hits the mark.


  Do you not understand that it is Affirmative Action that creates stereotypes and that real life demonstrable observations are not stereotyping?
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I'm not here to debate, because it's clear all of your minds are not open to such an idea.  You have your ingrained viewpoints - I get it.  I used to hold them.  Then I got battered in the head enough by my smart black friends - and now i see a little of the light.  Just because I can see the light, doesn't mean I can feel the heat.  I'll never feel the heat, i'm white.




It is complete bullshit to argue that just because I reject your idiotic premise that I am de facto not open to it.  Your stupid premise fails on its own merits after examination.  The facts are that young males suck and that young Negro males suck more than others.  You see no light since you are blinkered by PC moronity.

[Mod edit: No racism]


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
    #18859509 - 09/18/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

memes said:
All this having been said...


Wiccan, you do not, and can not, understand race relations in America.  You've never lived in a rough american neighborhood populated mostly by low-income blacks and black families.  That's all i'm sayin.  I have.  And I know why everyone in this thread is responding as ignorantly as they are.




I have too.  You are as ignorant as he is.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18859523 - 09/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The next black person I see, I'm going to go up to them, shake their hand and pat them on the back and apologize that they have such horrible lives.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859528 - 09/18/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Do it.  Post story


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18859532 - 09/18/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Take the ultimate step and ritually sacrifice yourself to Al and Jesse.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18859541 - 09/18/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Zappa:

balls, lick 'em  :shrug:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: something super extreme]
    #18859542 - 09/18/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I would kill myself if I had to sit in a room with either one, honestly.

Baby steps, svs. Baby steps.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #18859563 - 09/18/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Quote:

Wiccan, you do not, and can not, understand race relations in America.




Guess what, 99% of Americans does not understand the exact nuance of it. No one in this thread gets it. I know a lot more about race relations in general and the American situation than most, this by having studied it, scrutinized it and seen it from many sides whereas most simply hardly spend thought looking into it and when they do seldom leave their well defended trench.


  And you know this exactly how?
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I'm attacked directly by a group of naysayers who grossly oversimplify my nuances to have it fit their mould, but I know a great deal more than what I post about, I just choose not to go there because I know the tactics of the naysayers, its futile to engage them in discussion.


  You don't have nuance, you have ignorance.  You don't know a single fucking thing about race in America.
Quote:



Quote:

You've never lived in a rough american neighborhood populated mostly by low-income blacks and black families.  That's all i'm sayin.




Guess what, almost no one in this thread has. Should they be silenced too? I grew up in multicultural surroundings myself, i'm no stranger to the issues that transcend borders.




I have lived in rough American neighborhoods populated by mostly Negro families.  They have nothing to do with your "multi culti" surroundings.  You have no clue about America.  I'm not even going to tell you to shut up anymore since you persistently make a fool of yourself.
Quote:

 

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I know why everyone in this thread is responding as ignorantly as they are.




I do too, and most of it has nothing to do with them being American or having greater insight in the situation. In fact, quite the contrary.


  The only ignoramouses are the whiners and the foreigners.  If you think you have a case make it.  I'll chop you to bits.  It's my anniversary so I went out to dinner and miss most of the stupid.  I'm back.  Bring it if you got it. 
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I know the limits of what I know and the limits of my personal experience. One doesnt have to be an insider to see many of the forces that are in play and in fact outsiders can bring viewpoints to the table that the ones in the trenches are too caught up for to notice.




You most certainly do not know the limits of your understanding and if you are unclear on that I will be more than happy to supply them for your future silence.


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