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OfflineKremrBigSikter
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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18857895 - 09/18/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Joie if I was given free money beacause I was poor you think I would start a business hell no I would sit around and get drunk.




So you're saying the only reason you'd get up off the couch and work is because you're threatened with starvation if you don't? What's wrong with you?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch] * 2
    #18857926 - 09/18/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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When the subject is how the young male Negro has been made a victim of unfair scrutiny I will vehemently and fervently deny that it is the least bit unfair and will continue to point out that you have exactly zero understanding of race in America.  The simple fact of the matter is that they are fucking themselves even with all the preferences they have been given for 50 years.  Stop and frisk has disproportionately saved the lives of young Negro males.



Said the white male business owner.




I have had to compete in business against preferred contractors and they receive preferential treatment in college admissions and funding.  It is also an irrefutable fact that W_S knows nothing about race in America.

Another fact.  Stop and Frisk decreased the amount of young Negro male murder victims.  Are you trying to discredit my facts by pointing out my race?  Bigot.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18857931 - 09/18/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
Joie if I was given free money beacause I was poor you think I would start a business hell no I would sit around and get drunk.




So you're saying the only reason you'd get up off the couch and work is because you're threatened with starvation if you don't? What's wrong with you?



I imagine it would depend on how much money and how much ambition you have


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18858177 - 09/18/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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what do you say to the fact that a large cause of that fatherlessness is due to the disproportionate incarceration rates of black males in the USofA, and that the leading cause of incarceration for black males are non-violent drug offenses?




Well, they also COMMIT a disproportionate amount of the crimes. 

In most cases, the non-violent drug offenses is in addition to previous convictions (theft, assault, ect) that leads to incarceration. It was not just the drug offense that led to imprisonment, it was the conviction history.

The "war of drugs" does not help, but it's not sole reason either, white people also get convicted for drug offenses.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #18858319 - 09/18/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.







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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18858661 - 09/18/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yea it seems blacks have developed a victim mentality in which personal responsibility no longer exists and they can just blame others for all there problems.



:woah: This is way too general to be valid point.  I guarantee you there is a portion of all people on this planet who have this mentality.  However, because of the media focusing on certain events some races are more publicized than others.  Yes there were blacks who riot and loot when a racial event makes them feel like they can do nothing to help themselves, but there are also families who push even harder for their kids to go to school, work hard, and succeed in a way that they can positively contribute to the community and help to improve society at large.

I can personally say when I am involved in a traffic stop, until I mention I'm in college, I am regarded with severe suspicion by the police.  One time they used a flashlight to shine into my car windows and saw a plastic bag from a sandwich, assumed it was weed, pulled me out of the car and searched my entire car and found nothing.  Didn't even apologize. 

I'm not saying I'm a victim, I'm just saying that there's some stuff you have to deal with if you look a certain way.  Sometimes it's not even the skin color, it may just be the way you look.  Why does everyone have to assume things about people just based on their appearance? That's the real problem in society.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: DeeBee]
    #18858727 - 09/18/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe the mindset of this child is entering a war, is exactly what perpetuates it.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18858739 - 09/18/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe the mindset of this child is entering a war, is exactly what perpetuates it.




:yesnod:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: DeeBee] * 1
    #18858825 - 09/18/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Young males are ALL under suspicion.  It isn't just Negroes.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18858827 - 09/18/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe the mindset of this child is entering a war, is exactly what perpetuates it.



Yep


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858830 - 09/18/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

especially if they have long hair


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18858836 - 09/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Tell me about it.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
    #18858842 - 09/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Everlong, qman, luvdemshrooms, qman, Gilgamesh18, zappaisgod, VivaLaMushie said:
I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.










You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18858861 - 09/18/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Everlong, qman, luvdemshrooms, qman, Gilgamesh18, zappaisgod, VivaLaMushie said:
I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.










You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.



The only racial category I can think of that has entrenched systemic government privilege is the non-Caucasian non-Asian one.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858871 - 09/18/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The Negros?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18858877 - 09/18/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Everlong, qman, luvdemshrooms, qman, Gilgamesh18, zappaisgod, VivaLaMushie said:
I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.










You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.




When he prejudges it's "OK", I call it hypocrisy.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18858879 - 09/18/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Pretty much


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] * 2
    #18859064 - 09/18/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You two are assuming because we are white that we are privileged. That's racist.




You're all so white (I am too), you don't even  understand what privilege black people are talking about (I don't, fully). 



It's not a privilege of money, or of the ability to drink from a certain fountain or drive a certain car.  It's the privilege to avoid inherently negative stereotypes before doing anything to warrant the application of a specifically negative stereotype.  That's as accurately as I can describe it.  And I'm not sure it hits the mark.

I'm not here to debate, because it's clear all of your minds are not open to such an idea.  You have your ingrained viewpoints - I get it.  I used to hold them.  Then I got battered in the head enough by my smart black friends - and now i see a little of the light.  Just because I can see the light, doesn't mean I can feel the heat.  I'll never feel the heat, i'm white.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: memes]
    #18859094 - 09/18/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Then move to AZ during the summer time. You'll definately feel the heat.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] * 2
    #18859098 - 09/18/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

incredibly intelligent response.


definitely on par with what i've seen in this thread. :thumbup:


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