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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Help Needed! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18978792 - 10/14/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The only reason I said it like that is due to the OP using crumbled cakes. It gives a better visual of just how much more inoculation that ends up being. My thread says 2 quarts because the people that are reading that for ideas would most likely already know wtf that means.





True, I completely forgot he said he was using cakes.  Good lookin.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18980864 - 10/15/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey cool looking thread, and looks jus like what I'm doing!  I will check it out.  I scaled down my shoebox from another thread related to brf cakes + sub that was using a 1:3 ratio.  Everything ended up pretty rough what with my container having slanted sides.  I did crumble up the cakes pretty well though - around nickel sized pieces.  So far it looks very clumpy, and the bottom has areas where it hasn't gotten to yet.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #18980934 - 10/15/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey not sure if this will get any responses but I am still basically really confused about maintaining the cakes I have in my SGFC (I have two new ones which I just put in there).  I live in a pretty high humidity place and the heat isn't on yet so I'm thinking my room humidity is around 50% at least.  Should I be soaking my cakes (with a mister) so that they are all wet and shiny a lot ?  I did that about 4 hours ago and now they are not shiny and glistening at all.  Should I soak em again ?  I just really have no idea how wet to keep them.  How often to get them wet, etc.  And it's not because I haven't read like 50,000 posts on here.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #18988972 - 10/16/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah man that process should allow for the evaporation needed to produce pinning. BTW how did the crumbled cake experiment with Bubble wrap go? I had to face palm when I read that, but I think experimentation and trial and error is what helped this community get to here.


  Back to the misting question, I personally like to wet them with a light misting, and then fan them directly after. Then I wait 5-6 hours and rinse/repeat. If they are properly dunk/rolled they will produce fairly quickly. Check out my signature for flush quality.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Sockadin]
    #18989930 - 10/17/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I don't use a set time really I wait till there dry mist them till they glisten fan then wait till there dry in the surface before I mist them again don't keep them constantly wet.  The water evaporating off then being replenishes is a big part of how they pin during the 3 days or so where there not pins but mushrooms growing I spray them more


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Cb411]
    #18993067 - 10/17/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, so I've been on a regular 3 times a day (about every 8 hours) misting schedule.  If I went with misting every time the surface dries off, I'd be misting WAY more, and maybe that would be a good thing, but I'm not around enough.

As far as my experiments, the three cakes I crumbled and spawned to coir have done a pretty good job colonizing the coir, but a couple of days ago, the dreaded green hit a couple of spots on the substrate.  From doing some reading, I think it was either my poor quality pasteurization (could have sterilized some parts), or not separately sterilizing the gypsum before I mixed it in.  Also maybe having the cakes out in fruiting conditions, they picked up the trich before being crumbled. 

So I took the tupperware container way off to a little closet in the front of my house with a window, poked a hole in the saran wrap and filled it with polyfil, took a shower and threw my sweatshirt in the laundry.  So if it fruits at all, great, if not, not.

Experiment 2:
With my two latest cakes in the SGFC, I've been wrapping one of them with bubble wrap, and one not, and misting like I described.  It's been 2-3 days and each of them has got ONE healthy growing pin.  They are almost identical.  One of these cakes already grew two large mushrooms when it was inside it's jar, which I harvested.  Not sure why my jars seem to be so much happier an environment for them than my SGFC, but there it is.  Meanwhile, I've got three more PE cakes coming out of a dunk tomorrow to add to the mix.  Perhaps, maybe, one day, I might, have, some shrooms. :mushroom2:

Note: the only thing that is off from spec with my setup is that my SGFC is smaller scale than the Tek's.  It's about 16x14x10.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #18994922 - 10/18/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quick update: 2 more small pins today on cake that wasn't bubble wrapped.  Two new wide mouth half pint PE cakes, both dunked, one rolled, added to SGFC.  The problem I've had with rolling is I can't see whether or not the surface is wet or not - I mean the verm is always damp.  So, then I don't really know whether to mist or not.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #19000592 - 10/19/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do these pins look healthy ?  The short fat one is on the cake that's been bubble wrapped.  Any advice on what they need based on how they look ?  They are like 3 or 4 days old, still pretty shrimpy.



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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #19000693 - 10/19/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Do these pins look healthy ?  The short fat one is on the cake that's been bubble wrapped.  Any advice on what they need based on how they look ?  They are like 3 or 4 days old, still pretty shrimpy.





Get them off the perlite.

They should be on coasters of some kind like foil squares, not directly contacting the perlite.

Yes the pins look healthy.

Bubble wrap on cakes in a SGFC is fail.


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Re: Help Needed! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19014135 - 10/22/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, things have definitely improved, part. in the form of one large mushroom on one of the cakes.  The smaller ones are looking a bit sickly, though, and not growing to nearly the size of the nice one.  I put the cakes onto some coasters (made of bubble wrap), and I've got a problem where the cakes are starting to tip over because the shrooms are trying to grow down into the ground :smirk:.  I guess this makes sense now that I think about it - the bubble wrap is providing some space and a microclimate down there.  But it also seems to say that the shrooms like my SGFC's environment better with some bubble wrap trapping the humidity in.  I think that's why the cake that was bubble wrapped (the one w/the big shroom) got off to a better start.  So what I'm thinking is I might close up the FC a little more by taping some holes to raise the humidity, or maybe ideally I would just mist more often.  One thing that seemed to help was when I started seriously soaking the cakes a few days ago instead of just lightly misting them.  Doesn't seem to take long for the surfaces to look dry again.  I also added some wet verm hats to try to rehydrate these two cakes, because they've been alive (birthed) for about 3 full weeks now.



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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #19014533 - 10/22/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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So what I'm thinking is I might close up the FC a little more by taping some holes to raise the humidity



This will actually lower your humidity.

Taping the holes of a SGFC is never a good option.

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or maybe ideally I would just mist more often.



Misting the cakes does nothing for humidity without fanning them afterwards, so the water you misted can evaporate.

This water cannot evaporate if the humidity is constantly 100%, it would have no place to go...so we always fan after misting.

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Ramblin Man said:
One thing that seemed to help was when I started seriously soaking the cakes a few days ago instead of just lightly misting them.  Doesn't seem to take long for the surfaces to look dry again.  I also added some wet verm hats to try to rehydrate these two cakes, because they've been alive (birthed) for about 3 full weeks now.



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Re: Help Needed! [Re: PussyFart]
    #19016574 - 10/22/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey thanks for the 411.  This is such a learning process.  So cool to have people on the Shroomery helping out.  I just invested in a PC by the way.

And now, introducing my first ever :mushroom2: :cool:



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Re: Help Needed! [Re: Ramblin Man]
    #19016583 - 10/22/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:fuckinawesome:


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