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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Enlil]
    #18858651 - 09/18/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OMG!!!! you lifted----dddd--damn----but yeah it seems it just aint worth it----as far as employability goes how is it any different when you cant get a job anyhow because of this fucked economy---I mean its an employers market---and they can pay shit and expect you to smile about it these days---meanwhile they are making more money than they ever did-----and for future reference big shit like pumps DONT fit in ya britches--lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18858656 - 09/18/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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WTF? Now you're trying to equate helping someone with killing someone?



The analogy isn't perfect, but understand the point I'm making: In no circumstances do you have any certainty that your actions will produce the expected outcomes. Any moral action at all, by anyone is playing the odds to an extent.

In our imaginary hypothetical situation, I would argue that, since you have full knowledge of the choice you are making, choosing to not kill the ten would, morally, be directly equivalent to killing the other 1,000, just as if you had pulled the trigger yourself. The decision rests on your shoulders: not if you should kill, but who you should kill. It's not fair and it's not a decision anyone should have to make, but sometimes people really do have to make difficult choices.

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It's the old womans choice to accept the help or not. Are you going to give a choice to the 10 poor humans you'd kill to save the others?



Since one of the groups of people would have to die, I'd put it to a vote.



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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:



You missed the point of the question, the point is that doing something wrong in the name of something right does not make the bad deed less bad, it simply adds a second deed which is good.

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Is a poor man stealing a few cans of food from Walmart to feed his starving family "bad stealing?"
If someone without health insurance manages to steal a bottle of antibiotics to treat a family member and cure them of a potentially life threatening infection "bad" or "good" stealing? Big pharma companies wont be taking a hit



You know that’s not the kind of shoplifting were talking about, stealing to survive and stealing for fun and profit are not the same thing.




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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858675 - 09/18/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

that's how we ate back in the "906 house days". there was a house at 906 ad we fuxkin partyed hard there..


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858700 - 09/18/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

that's how we ate back in the "906 house days". there was a house at 906 ad we fuxkin partyed hard there..




That's pretty shameful, but then again, a person can't expect to just set up a store and lay everything out and expect stuff not to be taken. People have a responsibility to protect their own property.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: s240779]
    #18858717 - 09/18/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

When you shop at a grocery store like Winco or Pubix, where employees are vocal about how much they like their jobs, the message you're sending is pretty clear: I love what you guys are doing; here's a little $$$ to help open a new store and slowly fix what's wrong with the world.

When you do this buy/steal combo at Walmart, you aren't sending a good message. You either: 1. Don't steal enough so you're supporting the company's evil ways. 2. Don't steal enough and come out neutral so no message is sent at all. 3. Steal enough and hurt Walmart's insurance company that protects against losses. Maybe their premiums will go up next year, but the Waltons will cut worker's pay before they hurt themselves. Conclusion: You'd need to burn down all their stores.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: s240779]
    #18858730 - 09/18/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

that's how we ate back in the "906 house days". there was a house at 906 ad we fuxkin partyed hard there..




That's pretty shameful, but then again, a person can't expect to just set up a store and lay everything out and expect stuff not to be taken. People have a responsibility to protect their own property.



your quote is messed up...

but yes it is shameful and I do not participate or condone these types of things anymore. I was a child being stupid.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858743 - 09/18/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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but yes it is shameful and I do not participate or condone these types of things anymore. I was a child being stupid.




But frankly it should happen, because like I said, a business owner needs to have the intelligence to effectively prevent that kind of thing from happening.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858756 - 09/18/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

that's how my brother USED to get down---but he was feeding his kids---now he HAD some balls--he also passed some bad checks----and got caught at wallyworld jacking some RCA cables-----man in hindsight yall bout seen me on youtube and the like---ive done some crazy shit in regards to this topic----but I aint ever stole from the working man or them mom and pop stores--I mean really I aint----HONESTLY---I know some of yall have your doubts--but seriously though---and this aint my computer nor ISP nor is any shit at my house---I aint gonna get caught less I go do it again which I believe ive had my fill


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    #18858759 - 09/18/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dunno why there is all this hate towards Walmart if anything the company increases the standard of living for people with minimum wage jobs and lower education especially in times like these with the economic depression. Walmart forces competitors to lower prices all around in an area. Who the fuck can complain about paying less for goods that cost more??


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: tdubz]
    #18858776 - 09/18/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

cause more than half of that money is going back to china---and as far as the waltons go walmart was intended to sell American made products to American people---sam Walton must be turning in his grave---walmart is now owned by some dutch fucker


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858800 - 09/18/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Walmart is owned by many thousands of American citizens.  Rationalize it all you want, but you're stealing from your own granny.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Enlil]
    #18858834 - 09/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

don't put me with those folks that scam those folks out of their life savings---I aint Madoff or something--lol---but yeah im gonna stop---hey I might need to do a poll-----never did that---call it the down with walmart poll---lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858849 - 09/18/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The only difference between shoplifting and what Madoff did is the amount of money.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858859 - 09/18/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

and I walked right--right through the door----and its mine---mine o mine---lets go ----lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858868 - 09/18/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OP you're going to get caught eventually. Imagine how embarrassed you will feel.

Thieves are no bueno.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858891 - 09/18/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

what I do/did is almost justified/harmless---what he did was dastardly--just don't put me with robbing grannies---or some folks say stealing is stealing--I feel it is not--but either way im stopping only for self preservation


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858898 - 09/18/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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what I do/did is almost justified/harmless---what he did was dastardly--just don't put me with robbing grannies---or some folks say stealing is stealing--I feel it is not--but either way im stopping only for self preservation




hey bud, I'm not hating on ya. people r gonna do what they do.
but what is with---all--the--(-------------between----words----)?!?!?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858904 - 09/18/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18858912 - 09/18/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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either way im stopping only for self preservation




no surprises there, go ahead take care of the one person who is the most important in this whole world :rolleyes:

the one person who is so special he doesn't have to pay for stuff
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Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.





Stealing beer makes ALL of the other items in the store more expensive for EVERYBODY.

you aren't stealing from wal mart, you are stealing from everybody who actually pays for their goods



god damn, I can look past the drug use here but you thieving fuckers need to die


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858914 - 09/18/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah my shit probably reads like an old 1890's western union telegraph--dunno I just do it that way and nobodys called me on it---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------till now----------------------------lol


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