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A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor!
    #18858518 - 09/18/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



I had a profound mystical experience in which after meditation I channeled a deep wise inner voice and had a conversation with it. I took this conversation and made a short video using a guru dog to speak the words that I wrote down from channeling the inner voice. This video uses cosmic humor, music, and trippy imagery to spread a universal message of safety and peace and trust, through being here now, finding your heart, and merging... to be one with it all.

So discuss the video of course, I really appretiate feedback on the video... did you get the message? Did it make you laugh? was the laugh cosmic?


Also I would love to hear more about voices, do you hear voices? Have you ever found a wise inner voice inside you? What are your experiences with this inner voice?

I have been channeling my inner voice for years and years, it started saying short little profound and helpful messages during a period where I was trying to sort out many different voices, and spiritual experiences and psychosis and mania during a spiritual bipolar phase early in my path, In the depths of the mental hospital it told me to "Play the game" Which helped me get out of the hospital by feeling with my heart the different moves in this mystical game with a lighteness of cosmic humor yet seriousness and compassion... Later, after reading conversations with God, I had long and profound dialogues with my inner voice, I realize this inner voice is my higher self, and at times I merge with it, and it is me, yet I am still on the journey and not fully merged with this voice all the time...

Anyway, please help me, help yourself, help those reading this and watching the video by sharing your own inner voice and voices experience.

We can help our Self wake up... the internet is here for a reason, let's use it to help our self wake up, because it is all the Self waking up to the Self, we can only move as fast as we all can move... so let's move here people!

Please respond...

and please watch the video...
Do you tune in a inner voice that guided your life?
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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18858672 - 09/18/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The video isn't working for me man...

Well I don't hear voices but... well I'm not sure to be honest.

It is like my mind is a void, an empty space and I opened up that space to entities other than my ego. My ego is still the dominant resident but other entities inhabit this void... These entities communicate by thoughts so they aren't hallucinations. The best way to describe is a sort of Socratic method dialogue between myself, and two other entities (maybe more, hard to tell, it only started recently). I could tell more but you would just think I am crazy...


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18858804 - 09/18/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The video isn't working for me man...

Well I don't hear voices but... well I'm not sure to be honest.

It is like my mind is a void, an empty space and I opened up that space to entities other than my ego. My ego is still the dominant resident but other entities inhabit this void... These entities communicate by thoughts so they aren't hallucinations. The best way to describe is a sort of Socratic method dialogue between myself, and two other entities (maybe more, hard to tell, it only started recently). I could tell more but you would just think I am crazy...




I don't think you are crazy, I talk to angels and they talk back, pictures of gurus and saints talk to me, and so on...

what I learned is not to make a big deal of it, don't let it go to your ego, let it humble you... sort out real spiritual experience from delusions and ego projections and demons and so on... This takes patience, time and persitance... meditation is a HUGE help, meditating for all the years I did, at times in my practice early, I did an hour in the morning, hour at night... and all the sadhana, paid off, with a quieter mind... also getting caught in delusions helped, because I learned the different between tuning in astral and other planes and other entities from ego projections and confusion and psychosis... also my medicine albilify, helped because it made one inner voice strong, and helped me be able to tune in and out other voices, enttieis and so on... so I can deal with everyday life...


I don't find you crazy at all... these experiences are more common then you may think, people just ignore it or don't admit to it, or don't know how to communicate it...


The key here is learning to quiet the mind... quiet it down, and let all the mystical experiences be humbling, help dissolve the ego rather then build it up...


back in the day I let my ego go out of control because I felt so special seeing and hearing spirits so vividly, I thought I was so special. but nowadays, when I say talk to my passed on friend, I take it as humbling, and am grateful.



And about the video, thanks for your honesty, I knew it wouldn't resonate with everyone, I so far got one really positive responce and yours... I don't take offense at all.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18859007 - 09/18/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

inner feedback and noise
the only couple years I was quiet inside with just my own lonely voice I was really fucking stoned
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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18859223 - 09/18/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No man lol, Ican't watch your vid. As in it does not work on my computer, not that I hate it and don't want to finish it. :lol:


Listen to this quote:

"You have heard me speak at sundry times and in diverse places of an oracle or sign which comes to me, and is this the divinity which Meletus ridicules in the indictment. This sign, which is s kind of voice, first began to come to me as a child; it always forbids but never commands me to do anything which I am going to do."
-The APOLOGY, Plato Socrates

Give me some time to think and I will try to articulate what is going on inside my head. I don't think I'm crazy either.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: eve69]
    #18859390 - 09/18/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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No man lol, Ican't watch your vid. As in it does not work on my computer, not that I hate it and don't want to finish it. :lol:


Listen to this quote:

"You have heard me speak at sundry times and in diverse places of an oracle or sign which comes to me, and is this the divinity which Meletus ridicules in the indictment. This sign, which is s kind of voice, first began to come to me as a child; it always forbids but never commands me to do anything which I am going to do."
-The APOLOGY, Plato Socrates

Give me some time to think and I will try to articulate what is going on inside my head. I don't think I'm crazy either.





Look forward to our further communication and be sure to watch the video when you can...

As far as your quote goes... wow... I always kind of sensed Socrates was like a guru in greece... they call him a philopher, but come on, know thyself... his story... he obviously had a vibe about him... perhaps he was a realized being or close to it. He found the same inner voice I found... "that it always forbids but never commands me to do anything which I am going to do." It is a voice of deep understanding, it never commands even though it guides... but it's not a command. It is a voice I feel that is connected to a being, an awareness that is literally outside of time and space, the past, the future, the present, is all happening at once in an enternal present... and it is always wiggling changing all at once, to be something greater and better with less and less suffering until everything is nirvana... this voice is gentle it will forbid or encourage an action, but it never commands... NEVER, it is gentle. I find it in the center of my chest, in my heart chakra, speaking softly, gently, sanely at times more detailed at times short, but I am learning to rely much less on words and more on feeling it out... I trust it... Of course I balance it with my rational mind and logic, but it is gentle, it never commands me to do something so crazy to my rational mind, it is gentle understanding. And some things it sees you are just going to do... Socrates words, in a strange almost paradoxical way, deeply understand this inner voice we all have. the still quiet voice within... and I have dealt with strange other voices that command, and believe me, I know the difference. thanks for sharing


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inner feedback and noise
the only couple years I was quiet inside with just my own lonely voice I was really fucking stoned
yes for years





Sometimes psyechedelics, drugs, medicines, can help one find the inner voice... But you can find it without needing this, you don't have to meditate alot like I did, you can quiet your mind, just by simply focusing on each moment, one moment at a time, in the here now... this will naturally and quickly quiet the mind... and perhaps even dare I say it... pray, ask whatever, guru, god, higher power, goddess, universe, greater reality, to come to you, to find you... take sometime each day to listen for it, be patient... You will find this voice again, and not need to get baked to find it...

I was opened to spirituality through psychedelics like pot, lsd and so on... but when I read be here now, I got in touch with my inner voice, the middle section of ram dass's book be here now, a divine inner voice read it to me... And I was amazed, because before I had to take psychedelics at least a mild one like pot to feel even a little bit spiritual. I recommend to anyone that only finds spiritual experiences happen with drugs to read be here now, it was written by tim leary's partner richard alpert, later ram dass, who found he had these experience on drugs but would come donw, it took him traveling to india, and meeting a guru to find it without drugs. He is very grateful to psychedelics and still did them occassional after he met the guru, and of course respected their sacred use... but there was a transformation... It is important for those that had pschedelic experiences and felt spiritual just during the "high" to learn it is not the drug, it is YOU. be here now would be the perfect book for you.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18869660 - 09/20/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"So all I have to do is be here now, rest my weary mind, do nothing, go nowhere and just allow the awakening to unfold?"

I think what you are saying matches what I have learned about Taoism in the Tao Te Ching. The true goal of Taoism is the reduction of the self and to hold fast into the void and live in quiet oneness with the Tao, or in other words to follow the Way. I really like Taoism. I especially grok the idea of of entity that transcends the universe that me are still a part of. Also I dig their view of the earth and by extension the universe not being an artifact that was built but a creature that grew into being. In Taoism one does not become a part of the Tao, because he is already part of it. But by cultivating the Way the sage can gradually shrink his universe by learning less, doing less and living in one place.

The sage, in old age will intimately know this one part of the universe and this one part of the universe will contain, reflected into it all of the universe. It isn't an easy concept to understand but I think you Cosmicjoker can understand this. You use different language but I think, in essence you are speaking of the same thing.

Listen to this part of passage LXXX from the Tao Te Ching:

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"Bring it about that the people will return to the use of the knotted rope,
Will find relish in their food
And beauty in their clothes,
Will be content in their abode
And happy in the way they live.
Though adjoining states are within sight of one another, and the sound of dogs barking and cocks crowing in one state will be heard in another, yet the people of one state will grow old and die without having had any dealings with those of another."

So I understand where you are coming from, I think you are on the path toward enlightenment/moksha/oneness and I respect that.

:yinyang:

I don't believe it is for me though. It is said that the mystic never reaches enlightenment. I think there is wisdom in this statement. When you travel to exotic locales you expand your universe. When ever you astrally project or have out of body experiences from drugs your universe increases in scale. If you spend your whole life expanding your universe it becomes too big to understand, too big to grasp. How can empty your mind when you fill it full of knowledge?

"Rather than fill it to the brim by keeping it upright
Better to have it stopped in time;..."
-Tao Te Ching IX

I love God just as much as you do but our paths are different. My conscious will not let me "do nothing, go nowhere and just allow the awakening to unfold"... I cannot spend all day meditating and achieving inner peace and enlightenment and become one with the ONE, not in my universe. Rain forests are being raped, coral reefs are disappearing, the ocean is filling with plastic, people starve while others die of obesity and while all this is happening, it seems as though almost every kid my age  cares only about drinking, facebook, twiter, pot, molly, getting laid and making money. Some people give a fuck but they feel powerless to do anything because the world is so much bigger than them.

So I must do something. I think there is not going to be any enlightenment for me beyond the realization of how little of I know.  It sure felt enlightenment when happened the first time... And why would I want to become one with something that I am already apart of? Why would I want to liberate myself from suffering of this world when I could just make this world a little brighter? Maybe its not real but maybe that isn't such a bad thing. Once you accept this world isn't so concrete it makes reality feel so... malleable

Here two Socrates quotes to prove he has one of the coolest humans that ever existed:

"...  A man who is good for anything ought not to calculate the chances of living or dying; he ought only to consider whether  doing anything he is doing is right or wrong—
acting the part of a good man or a bad."
- The Apology

"Then we ought not to retaliate or render evil for evil to anyone, whatever evil we may have suffered from him."
-Crito

I think Socrates was a sort of guru but I think first and foremost he was a philosopher. He sought to  gain wisdom so he could survive death and serve God in the afterlife. If I ever found myself in Elysium I would have many long conversations with him. He brings me a lot of hope, when  I feel death anxiety.

I am going to go meditate for a bit then I will come back and tell of my inner voice(voices).


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18870150 - 09/20/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I remember that when I was a little kid when I was alone by myself I used to get theses thoughts/voices(they were like voices because they were so clearly not me but there was no audio component) people screaming at me saying hateful things. Not just one entity but a whole chorus of assholes. My parents said it was probably just anxiety/panic attacks. One day I was by myself in the forest behind my house and I couldn't of been much older than eight and the chorus of assholes got really bad, poking at all my weak points being extremely negative. I screamed at the voices pouring as much of my will as hard as I could to get them out of my head. And click they were gone just like that, and I could enjoy the silence.

Ten years went by and no thought/voices in head, just me. At the time I had been using mushrooms about once a month for about two years to deal with depression and because I thought I needed psilocybin to connect with God. It felt as though I was communicating with some sort of entity, even on low doses. I would trip balls really hard but later trips became less and less visual and more head space. One recurring visual was a Mayan dude in full headdress with psychedelic imagery surrounding him. I would go into this super deep  philosophical head space and it would lead towards this discovery about how my brain processes psilocybin, how much was produced by the drug and how much was coming from my subconscious and how much from my senses or about this entity I thought was the mushroom spirit or a creature from another dimension or whatever. After that discovery the trip would end no visuals, no head space, no nothing. Another important element of this is a tree in my backyard that seemed to be radiating good vibes. Just oscillating love. I had tripped under that tree a few times and I grew found of it. It is a beautiful, massive cedar that has a canopy that touches the ground. Another thing I should mention is that sometimes I would get strange painful pops in my brain that hurt really bad for a few seconds then disappear. Weirdness.

I decided one week in March (it was a warm streak, no snow on ground) that I would meditate under this tree until I met this spirit face to face. Note that I had no skill in mediation what so ever. So I ate my mushrooms (3.8 g of good shrooms) and sat cross legged under this tree. When I closed my eyes I saw plant cells, patterns of electric green rectangle shapes with thick edges(cell walls/membrane) with big blue watery sacs(vacuoles) and green blobs(chloroplasts) and pulsating red nucleoli. I just kept going and going upward faster and faster. I then lost focus and jumped up and heard the solo from Jimi Hendrix's song, Bold as Love. Ran through the canopy and heard this sound like 20 jumbo jets firing their engine right next to me. I fell down on my face, got up and for half a second there was that Mayan guy's face in the trees.

I turned around and this serpent sprung up from the ground and entered my body at my perineum and burst through the top of my head(it was like a half a second but hurt so much) and I then met that spirit, but not face to face, it was inside my head. It basically told me I was coolest guy who had lived since Jesus... I know lol :whatever: but wait, there is more. It then told me that I would never amount to anything unless the rainforest was saved, because humanity's existence depends on the rainforest. We spent a long time talking about how we could do that. A very long time. It was inside my head.  I think it was big part ego small part spirit. Like a stimulus or a catalyst. We also talked about my girlfriend at the time.

I decided I was thirsty so I thought I could sneak over to my house my parent's house to grab some water. I went to the outside hose tap but it was shut off because it was technically still winter... So I snuck into the house and grabbed some orange juice and I looked at the clock and it had only been one hour twenty minutes since I ate the shrooms.! WTF! I actually said that out loud (what the fuck). My dad then walked up behind me then saw my eyes completely black (apparently) and the jig was up... he wouldn't let me go outside and I spent the rest of the trip in my room. No visuals no spirits just confusion. The rest of the trip actually went by pretty quick comparing to the first eighty minutes. I was able to go to school the next day.

So I tripped twice after that during the summer but nothing at all like that last time. One day I was coming back from a party at a cottage and I had drank a lot the night before but I wasn't hungover because I had passed out pretty early in the night. I got back to  my house and felt great. It was a beautiful Sunday. I decided to spend the day pruning my favourite grove of trees with my old friend dominating the grove. I actually just used some loppers to cut off all the  branches and throw them into a pile. I put on some Led Zeppelin and got to work. I was about halfway done when I started to get this bad headache( I don't normally get headaches so I thought it was the hangover). My older bro was outside smoking bong so I asked him if I could have some and he said sure. Did not do a thing. So I had some acetaminophen. It also didn't do a thing. This headache got worse and worse until it felt like my brain was burning behind my eyes.  I finished lopping and threw all the branches in a pile. I was completely incapacitated. I was delirious with pain. I hugged the tree and said, "I am so sorry! I didn't know it hurt so much(referring to the lopping)!" I lay down and put my head back and when closed my eyes I saw two parallel horizontal orange lines and they flipped and went vertical. 

I should sleep so... if I can't, I will write more, if not I will tomorrow.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18872602 - 09/21/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Two important things I forget to mention was that my friend had got angry at me the day before the cottage and said that "You are not smarter than anyone else you are just better at being you." When he said  that I let felt like he deflated my ego and it felt amazing. Also while I was pruning the tree I was having a really deep text conversation with another friend. He was saying how fucked up the drug game was right now in our area and how no one gave a shit and he was blaming the government. I argued that it went deeper than that. These problems were symptoms of a society that was deeply out of touch with reality and out of harmony with the earth.

Ok so once those parallel lines flipped it felt like the space inside my head doubled in size. There was room enough for me and the other. The head ache got a little bit better but it was still bad so I slept the rest of the day. I woke up around 3:30am and went for a long run. I felt amazing, I had so much energy. Music felt orgasmic even on my shitty apple head phones. As ran back home the sun rose higher and the shadows retreated. I ran back to the tree, hugged it and said crying with joy, "Thank you for this gift."

I didn't actually communicate that much with the spirits but I was much better with people; picking up women was almost too easy.  Animals wild and domestic flocked to me, I had energy to bike all morning, work all day, bike back into town and party the rest of the night. I stopped sleeping. It was pure mania. From that high I just descended over the course of five days into delusional insanity. It was like I was given all the power of enlightenment but I was too egocentric to handle this energy properly. Not that I used this power for evil but that I could be manipulative and rude in my methods to enlighten people.

I don't what to get into the details but by the Friday that week I had gone completely bonkers. I was escorted into the emergency room barefoot and in handcuffs. I was given haloperidol l and I think lorazepam.  Some other time I will give a more in depth story but I just want to make this quick and relevant. I passed out eventually and I saw a sort of vision. Tree roots were wrapped around a brain and then this drill with spikes on it was breaking the roots apart... When I woke up the presence was still there. The I told the nurse that I needed to leave because the tree that is half my brain had said so. They gave me more drugs and when I woke up from that, the connection and the presence was gone.

I got out the hospital a few weeks later and I was just as delusional. I went off of meds and I became manic again but it wasn't that spiritual.  The only time that the inner voice came up I was chilling with this girl I new, we hung out and talked for hours and after a while (3:00 in the morning) we walked into a quiet spot in  the woods sat  on a old rusted out car and started to wheel.  I had knew this girl for a while and I always thought she was attractive but she had a boyfriend, so we were just friends. That night I pretty much charmed my way into her pants. I said all the right things. We were about to have sex when I felt this presence standing over my shoulder and heard an inner voice that said, "You don't need to do this." I felt bad, apologized and walked her home. Maybe I was delusional and hallucinating but I feel that was a pretty low thing to do, using my charm to hook up with a girl who was a good friend...

Other than that I did not hear/feel much for several months except for the voices I would hear when I took ativan. it started as a subtle thing at first. Like a thought that seemed to come from someone other than me and then when I focused on the thoughts they would disappear. I was dealing with a lot of shit for the past few weeks so once I dealt with that shit I had more time to explore what was going on. First there are like gremlins(or demons) which are just random annoying negative thoughts that have no substance and  out to to take my down a notch. Just random negative thoughts. Then there is this warm loving spirit that is never says anything but just loves.  I think this might be a nature spirit or maybe an angel. There is this one cool voice/thought entity that sometimes takes the form of a serpent, Asian dragon or feathered serpent in my mind's eye. Basically it says to be cool, think inside your head and live in the hear and now. It helps me astrally project and guides me in mediation. I feel like dragon is wisdom/darkness/creative/spirit and the other one is love/light/passive/soul if that makes any sense, yin and yang, complimentary not competing.

I am also on abilify but sometimes (like these past few days) I don't take it and I feel no different what so ever because I am good at dealing with the mania and the depression. Today I did take it. How do I connect with these entities while at the same time silencing the gremlins/demons who fuck with me? Does my story sound kinda like your's?

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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18886115 - 09/24/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You wrote a lot Psilopsychosis , I've read through it but give me a few days to summon up the spirit to respond fairly... I am going through a mild flu right now, but it will be alright.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18886285 - 09/24/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You wrote a lot Psilopsychosis , I've read through it but give me a few days to summon up the spirit to respond fairly... I am going through a mild flu right now, but it will be alright.




Ya sorry about that dude, I went a bit overboard.


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18888108 - 09/25/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As far as the wisdom of the Tao, I am a big fan of the Tao Te Ching, I once read Wayne Dyer's book living the wisdom of the Tao, and I loved it... I am glad you also resonate with this sacred text and teachings...
Psilopsychosis

I read the whole thing again, wonderful inspiring words, here are my thoughts on what stuck out for me...

as far as the mystic reaching enlightenment, I feel that enlightenment is never in the future, once you become even a little spiritual and realize your buddha nature in the now, you see nirvana is the process of awakening, the grace of the oneness, the harmony, that is the only enlightenment there can be, the enlightenment right here right now, so let's live it!


As far as your struggles with mental illness, perhaps you have or have not seen one of my videos on my own struggles, if not sorry for the repost here goes


As  you can see we went through simular experiences


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Re: A dog guru? Channeling inner voice, cosmic humor! [Re: Cosmicjoker]
    #18890512 - 09/25/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah dude I remember your thread a few months ago. It was and still is pretty awesome.

A few days ago the thought/voices in my head got really confusing and were saying all kinds of strange shit and it honestly seemed like I was producing what they said. So I asked The Great Spirit to clear out my head and it did. Now I can live with just myself in my head again.
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