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OfflineMr. Wilson
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Shoplifting---and yall's opinion??
    #18858040 - 09/18/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When I go to walmart I make it a point to jack bout as much as I spend---I feel wallyworld is evil and mostly responsible for the situation we are in now by pumping all that Chinese made garbage to the people of the US---or maybe im just making excuses for a deeper problem---either way I do it and will continue as I have for like 25 years now--god wow--moment of realization lol---I understand that folks say THEY just pass the expense onto other customers but the way I see it they are ripping folks off anyway so WTF??--anyway flame me  encourage me WTF ever just give me your opinion


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson] * 9
    #18858046 - 09/18/13 01:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't steal.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter] * 3
    #18858058 - 09/18/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What's the point of opposing Walmart if you operate under the same moral compass.  :confused:


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858063 - 09/18/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mr Wilson, come on man.  You're better than that.  Don't steal.  Stealing is bad.  I hate Walmart too. That's why I haven't stepped foot in one in over 12 years. Be good and do right.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson] * 2
    #18858069 - 09/18/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah if you think their stuff's shit and hope they fail, just don't go there. Even if you rationalize your way out of admitting it's wrong, they put a lot of resources towards catching thieves and your luck will eventually run out.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode] * 4
    #18858072 - 09/18/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thieves are scumbags. Thieves that try to justify their thievery are even worse.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18858074 - 09/18/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

been doing a little research on the subject and it seems shoplifting and the whole risk/reward thing aint too much different than crack addiction---I dunno but Im starting to think about why I really do it and maybe stopping--its getting to be a real problem---im pretty good at it and over the years ive really tore walmarts ass up---like in the thousands $$


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18858078 - 09/18/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you think them pumping Chinese stuff into America in whats responsible for the state of the country the appropriate action would be to buy American made stuff.  I'm not gunna say I've never shop lifted but not since I was a kid and not at wallmart they have good security and will prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858084 - 09/18/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Cb411]
    #18858095 - 09/18/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah--its bad juju--I really need to quit before my luck does run out--I am making excuses---yeah it needs to stop


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18858100 - 09/18/13 01:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

its a shitty thing to do


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
    #18858105 - 09/18/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Thieves are scumbags. Thieves that try to justify their thievery are even worse.



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Cb411]
    #18858109 - 09/18/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Imagine getting caught.  Then flash forward a few years.  You meet the girl of your dreams and her family is taking a trip to Canada.  You are invited.  Her dad is a hotshot business owner with no sons and 3,000 employees.  He likes you.  At the border, you are not permitted to enter.  Her dad finds out that you're a shoplifter.  Damn.
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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 2
    #18858113 - 09/18/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I actually just saw a shoplifter running away from security at Wal-Mart a few days ago. He got away but ran to his tent across the street and was arrested moments later.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #18858119 - 09/18/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wal-Mart got a shrink budget of "allowable" product losses.
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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18858125 - 09/18/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ive never stole a damn thing off the working man like some folks ive seen--I do have "some" morals lol---and how can a man buy American when the garbage is everywhere you go---I mean I really do fucking hate that that garbage is EVERYWHERE---folks do need to refuse all that shit and maybe something would change--ha a unified boycott HA--that'd fly bout like a lead zeppelin--lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858131 - 09/18/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nothing wrong with stealing from Wal-Mart, if you ask me. The more of their ill-gained profits they lose, the better.

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ClockCode said:
What's the point of opposing Walmart if you operate under the same moral compass.  :confused:



He's not operating under the same moral compass as Wal-Mart does, though.

Stealing from a large, evil corporation is not at all comparable to the shit that Wal-Mart does.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: azur]
    #18858141 - 09/18/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Imagine getting caught.  Then flash forward a few years.  You meet the girl of your dreams and her family is taking a trip to Canada.  You are invited.  Her dad is a hotshot business owner with no sons and 3,000 employees.  He likes you.  At the border, you are not permitted to enter.  Her dad finds out that you're a shoplifter.  Damn.
Just quit now, put it behind you, and start fresh.



I highly doubt you'd be denied acess to Canada because of a shoplifting charge.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18858142 - 09/18/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
Nothing wrong with stealing from Wal-Mart, if you ask me. The more of their ill-gained profits they lose, the better.

Quote:

ClockCode said:
What's the point of opposing Walmart if you operate under the same moral compass.  :confused:



He's not operating under the same moral compass as Wal-Mart does, though.

Stealing from a large, evil corporation is not at all comparable to the shit that Wal-Mart does.



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Thieves are scumbags. Thieves that try to justify their thievery are even worse.




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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18858146 - 09/18/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wal-Mart got a shrink budget of "allowable" product losses.
It's all in the game, homie




Most companies have a shrink budget.. But that doesn't make thievery justified. Plus it's really not worth it and most stores (including Wal-Mart) put a lot of resources out to catch shoplifters. Eventually the luck runs out - the risk isn't worth the reward.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: azur]
    #18858151 - 09/18/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

fuck Canada--lol--and I have been caught--once a long long time ago when I was a kid--like under 18--I know the deal---all the way through the store----like I said its a real problem---yall want me to tell you what I did like a month ago---haha--its good


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson] * 2
    #18858153 - 09/18/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I hope you go to jail for being a thieving piece of shit.



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858156 - 09/18/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858157 - 09/18/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's the principle of the matter, not the scale.  Just because they're deeper in the gutter doesn't mean you're not wallowing with them.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858167 - 09/18/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858171 - 09/18/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

im kind of interested in what are some of the best and most expensive stuff you've stolen from walmart?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858172 - 09/18/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

op- its not right to steal•

that bein said if somebody was goin to be a thief I think wal-fart would be the place to thieve from.

they are a corporate giant and they shut down mom an pop stores every day with their incredibly low prices! like I said, if you're gonna steal at least do it from the huge store that's already causing an impact on the environment and society. now stealing out of a house or somwbodys car! that's real fuckt!


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #18858174 - 09/18/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed. Getting caught part of the game too. No justification, it simply is what it is.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858176 - 09/18/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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pwnasaurus said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Thieves are scumbags. Thieves that try to justify their thievery are even worse.






Nice ad-hominem, bro. Now why don't you try making an actual argument instead of rehashing the same tired black-and-white moral laws? :rolleyes:

Seriously, explain to me why stealing from a company like Wal-Mart is as bad as stealing from an individual person (which I would never do in a million years).

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It's the principle of the matter, not the scale.  Just because they're deeper in the gutter doesn't mean you're not wallowing with them.



I disagree, I think that it is the scale. Every single person has a spectrum of morals.

For instance, most people wouldn't kill and eat a human, but they'd kill and eat other animals. I won't kill and eat other animals, but I'll kill and eat plants.

It's all killing, but some of it is viewed as perfectly fine while some of it is the worst crime imaginable. How is theft any different?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18858179 - 09/18/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So what have you stolen?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18858183 - 09/18/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I hope you go to jail for being a thieving piece of shit.






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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #18858185 - 09/18/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll be completely honest with you guys, I've never shoplifted in my life. I stole 5$ from my babysitter when I was 8 years old and my dad gave me so much shit that I never even stole a penny after that. I do not support any types of stealing. I just sucks.

But...

I have always wanted to do it deep inside, I want to rob a bank, I want to shoplift something from a department store, I want to just steal something. I doubt I'll ever do it but deep down I want to. Odds are I'd get caught cause I would be too nervous. It's very stupid to get a record because of a 10$ item... Maybe one day I'll give it a shot when I feel 110% I wouldn't get caught.

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858186 - 09/18/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
Quote:

pwnasaurus said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Thieves are scumbags. Thieves that try to justify their thievery are even worse.






Nice ad-hominem, bro. Now why don't you try making an actual argument instead of rehashing the same tired black-and-white moral laws? :rolleyes:

Seriously, explain to me why stealing from a company like Wal-Mart is as bad as stealing from an individual person (which I would never do in a million years).

Quote:

ClockCode said:
It's the principle of the matter, not the scale.  Just because they're deeper in the gutter doesn't mean you're not wallowing with them.



I disagree, I think that it is the scale. Every single person has a spectrum of morals.

For instance, most people wouldn't kill and eat a human, but they'd kill and eat other animals. I won't kill and eat other animals, but I'll kill and eat plants.

It's all killing, but some of it is viewed as perfectly fine while some of it is the worst crime imaginable. How is theft any different?



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858188 - 09/18/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd think that after 25 years of stealing, a person would at least attempt to get a job and give a little something back to society, rather than being an immoral shit-stain.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858193 - 09/18/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

aye--take the high road huh??--most of the folks I see get fucking rich by fucking people over and getting their gains off the sweat off somebody's back haha---then laying them off a week after X-mas--yeah so they can start fresh for the new year---yeah there's the fucker and the fuckee the way ive seen so far---and all my friends that I keep aint trying to fuck somebody over--that cuts out bout 90 sum % of the world


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858198 - 09/18/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I used to shop lift all the time when I was 16 and 17. Packs of bic lighters, candy, glow sticks, weed grinder, sweaters, ect.

I stopped at 18 though because I knew getting caught was no longer a slap on the wrist.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18858202 - 09/18/13 01:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NWlight said:
I hope you go to jail for being a thieving piece of shit.





IMO, buying things from Wal-Mart and helping their business succeed is far worse than stealing from them.

Look at the whole picture man, this "stealing is wrong no matter who you steal from" is an incredibly immature viewpoint, the kind of moral absolutes that cops and fundamentalist Christians love to employ.

Like, say I were to donate 10,000 dollars stolen from Wal-Mart to charity, and it went to save kids from HIV or something instead of lining some fat, greedy CEO's pockets. Explain to me why that would be wrong, why the world would be a worse place for me having done that.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858211 - 09/18/13 01:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Stealing from Walmart is a good thing, never steal from Mom and Pop stores.

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858217 - 09/18/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858219 - 09/18/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aye--take the high road huh??--most of the folks I see get fucking rich by fucking people over and getting their gains off the sweat off somebody's back haha---then laying them off a week after X-mas--yeah so they can start fresh for the new year---yeah there's the fucker and the fuckee the way ive seen so far---and all my friends that I keep aint trying to fuck somebody over--that cuts out bout 90 sum % of the world



ORLY?  Is that what you see?  I did quite well but I sweated and put in far more hours than my employees ever did.  I didn't fuck anybody over.  My wife is a real estate agent who is near the top of the charts every year while 95% of the agents do shit.  She works at it.  She didn't fuck anybody over either.  Do you know why they lay people off after Christmas?  Because they are seasonal workers.  Do you think about anything or just what you want?

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    #18858221 - 09/18/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

NWlight brung down my rating---like I give a fuck--but still--this is a discussion on me stopping---NWlight you being like that makes want to go jack your kid's bicycles


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    #18858223 - 09/18/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from Walmart is a good thing, never steal from Mom and Pop stores.




That's some backwards ass thinking bullshit right there.  Stealing is stealing, you can't just arbitrarily decide what's "good stealing" and what's "bad stealing."


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    #18858233 - 09/18/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:


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Like, say I were to donate 10,000 dollars stolen from Wal-Mart to charity, and it went to save kids from HIV or something instead of lining some fat, greedy CEO's pockets. Explain to me why that would be wrong, why the world would be a worse place for me having done that.




Forcibly taking someone else's private property without their consent.  You honestly need someone to explain to you why that might be considered "wrong"?


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    #18858245 - 09/18/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I hope you go to jail for being a thieving piece of shit.





IMO, buying things from Wal-Mart and helping their business succeed is far worse than stealing from them.

Look at the whole picture man, this "stealing is wrong no matter who you steal from" is an incredibly immature viewpoint, the kind of moral absolutes that cops and fundamentalist Christians love to employ.




Hmmmmm, on reflection I think you might have a decent point.  I should make sure I steal from shoplifters every chance I get
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Like, say I were to donate 10,000 dollars stolen from Wal-Mart to charity, and it went to save kids from HIV or something instead of lining some fat, greedy CEO's pockets. Explain to me why that would be wrong, why the world would be a worse place for me having done that.




Because that is not your decision to make, thief.  I believe Wal-Mart donates quite a bit to variouis charities.  I bet it is quite a bit more than you do, John Dillinger.  What if someone were to decide that stealing from Wal-Mart and donating the proceeds to NAMBLA is the best way to help the world?  You got a problem with that?


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    #18858248 - 09/18/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

a 400$$ trolling motor---big ass heavy motherfucker---snatched and bailed out the front door---and was drunker than hell when I did it---ive hit em for bout 4grand in the last 2 months


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    #18858251 - 09/18/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law without contradiction



That would be the Kantian viewpoint, which I think is riddled with logical problems and inconsistencies.

For instance, according to Kant, if someone comes to your door and asks to hide in your house because a man with an axe is chasing him, you have to let him in. However, if the axe murderer comes to your door and asks if the guy he's chasing is inside, you have to tell the truth, because lying is wrong under all circumstances.

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    #18858254 - 09/18/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from Walmart is a good thing, never steal from Mom and Pop stores.




That's some backwards ass thinking bullshit right there.  Stealing is stealing, you can't just arbitrarily decide what's "good stealing" and what's "bad stealing."




Huge chain stores account for theft, small private shops don't. Its that simple. Youll hurt the smaller stores exponentially more than stealing from a large chain, and in the case of Walmart who moves in and closes down the smaller shops, stealing from them is very acceptable.

Is a poor man stealing a few cans of food from Walmart to feed his starving family "bad stealing?"
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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858256 - 09/18/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I hope you go to jail for being a thieving piece of shit.





IMO, buying things from Wal-Mart and helping their business succeed is far worse than stealing from them.

Look at the whole picture man, this "stealing is wrong no matter who you steal from" is an incredibly immature viewpoint, the kind of moral absolutes that cops and fundamentalist Christians love to employ.




Hmmmmm, on reflection I think you might have a decent point.  I should make sure I steal from shoplifters every chance I get
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Like, say I were to donate 10,000 dollars stolen from Wal-Mart to charity, and it went to save kids from HIV or something instead of lining some fat, greedy CEO's pockets. Explain to me why that would be wrong, why the world would be a worse place for me having done that.




Because that is not your decision to make, thief.  I believe Wal-Mart donates quite a bit to variouis charities.  I bet it is quite a bit more than you do, John Dillinger.  What if someone were to decide that stealing from Wal-Mart and donating the proceeds to NAMBLA is the best way to help the world?  You got a problem with that?



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858259 - 09/18/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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a 400$$ trolling motor---big ass heavy motherfucker---snatched and bailed out the front door---and was drunker than hell when I did it---ive hit em for bout 4grand in the last 2 months




:lol: that's the wrong kinda confession to make on the internet regardless of which website.


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    #18858262 - 09/18/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's more than you did, thief.


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    #18858267 - 09/18/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: badchad]
    #18858268 - 09/18/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Nimpo]
    #18858272 - 09/18/13 02:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I used to shop lift all the time when I was 16 and 17. Packs of bic lighters, candy, glow sticks, weed grinder, sweaters, ect.

I stopped at 18 though because I knew getting caught was no longer a slap on the wrist.



I did the same shit at the same age and stopped for the same reason:highfive1:


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858277 - 09/18/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NWlight brung down my rating---like I give a fuck--but still--this is a discussion on me stopping---NWlight you being like that makes want to go jack your kid's bicycles



All stores know that a certain amount will be stolen and they add this to the price of all goods.

This is called "losses".  People who steal make goods more expensive for everyone else.

http://hayesinternational.com/2013/06/increases-in-shoplifting-employee-theft/

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We recently completed our 25th Annual Retail Theft Survey and the results reflect a much greater problem than many people realize.  These thieves (shoplifters and dishonest employees) are stealing profits from retailers thus resulting in higher retail prices for consumers, and even putting some stores out of business.




There are no victimless thefts.  If you can make a good argument against this I won't mind changing my rating.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Nimpo]
    #18858278 - 09/18/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from Walmart is a good thing, never steal from Mom and Pop stores.




That's some backwards ass thinking bullshit right there.  Stealing is stealing, you can't just arbitrarily decide what's "good stealing" and what's "bad stealing."




Huge chain stores account for theft, small private shops don't. Its that simple. Youll hurt the smaller stores exponentially more than stealing from a large chain, and in the case of Walmart who moves in and closes down the smaller shops, stealing from them is very acceptable.

Is a poor man stealing a few cans of food from Walmart to feed his starving family "bad stealing?"
If someone without health insurance manages to steal a bottle of antibiotics to treat a family member and cure them of a potentially life threatening infection "bad" or "good" stealing? Big pharma companies wont be taking a hit




It's not for me to decide what's "good stealing" or "bad stealing" regardless of moral ambiguity.  Same with you.
I think of Wal-Mart as a successful business and I have absolutely no problem with their business model so your entire basis of justification is flim flam bullshit to me.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858280 - 09/18/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No you would tell him the following, "Sorry, I cannot tell you where your prey is because I must protect him from you."

That is neither a lie, nor a violation of the second formulation.

In the case of theft, stealing cannot be universalized and thus is not a moral action.  Regardless of who you are stealing from.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18858281 - 09/18/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because that is not your decision to make, thief.



I'm not a thief, illogical moralizer. I don't shoplift. However, that's mostly because I don't actually generally go into stores that I would shoplift from, because I think supporting them and giving them business is wrong too.

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I believe Wal-Mart donates quite a bit to variouis charities.  I bet it is quite a bit more than you do, John Dillinger.  What if someone were to decide that stealing from Wal-Mart and donating the proceeds to NAMBLA is the best way to help the world?  You got a problem with that?



I would have a problem with that because donating to that organization would not fit my ethical criteria of "maximize happiness, minimize suffering."


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    #18858285 - 09/18/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not for me to decide what's "good stealing" or "bad stealing" regardless of moral ambiguity.  Same with you.
I think of Wal-Mart as a successful business and I have absolutely no problem with their business model so your entire basis of justification is flim flam bullshit to me.




To each their own :shrug:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18858291 - 09/18/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:



So not only do you advocate theft, but also murder? That's nice.



How the hell did you get that out of what I said? :braindamage:

Would you seriously let 1000 people die so you didn't have to kill 10? How does that make any sense at all? That would make you a murderer -- in addition to the 10 that would have died either way, you would also have the 990 that you could have saved on your conscience.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858292 - 09/18/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Correct, I wouldn't murder anyone.


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    #18858295 - 09/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you seriously let 1000 people die so you didn't have to kill 10? How does that make any sense at all?




Population control.  1,000 deaths is more than 10, the math is simple and the decision is easy.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18858308 - 09/18/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Correct, I wouldn't murder anyone.



AT LEAST 10 people are going to die either way. How would letting 990 die when you could have saved them make you any less of a murderer?

If you can save someone, and choose to let them die, you are a murderer. Therefore, if you could save 990 people but let them die, you are a murderer of 990 people.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18858313 - 09/18/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

wow this thread blew up---I agree with most of yall though--stealing is bad---Im going to stop--mainly cause at my age ill definatly catch some time ifin I get caught---and that is the ONLY reason--I appreciate all yalls criticism--the good and the bad---now to just do it haha


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858318 - 09/18/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I'm of the belief that it's the act of murder that makes someone a murderer. Call me old fashioned.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NetDiver]
    #18858327 - 09/18/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If we want to get away from the knowledge that thieves are scumbags...

What if 1 of the 10 that you kill would have gone on to develop a vaccine that prevented the next flu pandemic? Not killing him could save millions.

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    #18858332 - 09/18/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

idea* that thieves are scumbags.


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    #18858336 - 09/18/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because that is not your decision to make, thief.



I'm not a thief, illogical moralizer. I don't shoplift. However, that's mostly because I don't actually generally go into stores that I would shoplift from, because I think supporting them and giving them business is wrong too.




Not patronizing them is entirely ethical.  Advocating stealing from them is not.
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I believe Wal-Mart donates quite a bit to variouis charities.  I bet it is quite a bit more than you do, John Dillinger.  What if someone were to decide that stealing from Wal-Mart and donating the proceeds to NAMBLA is the best way to help the world?  You got a problem with that?



I would have a problem with that because donating to that organization would not fit my ethical criteria of "maximize happiness, minimize suffering."




Oh so you get to decide what is the proper charity.

Let me guess.  Your charitable giving amounts to 3 figures at most. 

Wal-Mart provides an extremely valuable service in that it provides the lowest prices for goods.  Their profit margin is shit and poor people are the greatest beneficiaries of their existence.  You're fake moralizing is inept and bankrupt.


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    #18858341 - 09/18/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Except it is the walmart employees who get shafted. Theft is a major problem for walmart, they don't want to eat the loss, so its part of the problem for why the workers get shit pay.

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    #18858345 - 09/18/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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idea* that thieves are scumbags.




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    #18858350 - 09/18/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

a little bit off topic but im in the belief that some people don't deserve to exist--i.e. child molesters ,rapists and such---and in those cases lethal injection is just WAYYY to nice of a way for them to go out---but yet they do--such is the fucked ways of the world---and yes I agree -- it is what it is-----and rich folks are "broke" if they cant get a new Mercedes every year and eat steak for dinner every night so they start laying folks off----and walmart like most shithead companies don't pay shit so they can get a new ride every year


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18858354 - 09/18/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why would we want to get away from the topic of thievery when the thread is ABOUT theft.

And samurai, no you don't have to let the axe murderer in your house.  You tell him that you cannot reveal the victim's whereabouts because you're protecting him.  I don't see the contradiction, because that response violates neither the first nor second formulation.


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    #18858357 - 09/18/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Except it is the walmart employees who get shafted. Theft is a major problem for walmart, they don't want to eat the loss, so its part of the problem for why the workers get shit pay.

thieves suck.




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    #18858358 - 09/18/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So you don't believe in redemption or second chances?

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    #18858363 - 09/18/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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a 400$$ trolling motor---big ass heavy motherfucker---snatched and bailed out the front door---and was drunker than hell when I did it---ive hit em for bout 4grand in the last 2 months



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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858367 - 09/18/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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wow this thread blew up---I agree with most of yall though--stealing is bad---Im going to stop--mainly cause at my age ill definatly catch some time ifin I get caught---and that is the ONLY reason--I appreciate all yalls criticism--the good and the bad---now to just do it haha




Do you think you would ever get hired for a job if you have a conviction of theft on your record?  In this competitive job environment, you would be shit out of luck.


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    #18858374 - 09/18/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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idea* that thieves are scumbags.




Know is correct. The vast majority of humans know stealing is wrong.




Bullshit.  Morals are not facts set in stone, they're fluid ideas that can change over time.  The fact that they can change means there's no inherent absolute correctness in them, that they're only relevant until they aren't.  And I'm not going to debate this with you so say what you want.


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    #18858376 - 09/18/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why would we want to get away from the topic of thievery when the thread is ABOUT theft.

And samurai, no you don't have to let the axe murderer in your house.  You tell him that you cannot reveal the victim's whereabouts because you're protecting him.  I don't see the contradiction, because that response violates neither the first nor second formulation.



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    #18858388 - 09/18/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, I'm of the belief that it's the act of murder that makes someone a murderer. Call me old fashioned.



So, if you were to come upon someone dangling from a cliff, begging to be pulled up before their grip strength gave out, and you watched as they fell, then you wouldn't consider yourself a murderer?

I would call that murder.

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Oh so you get to decide what is the proper charity.

Let me guess.  Your charitable giving amounts to 3 figures at most.



You're deliving into ad-hominem again here with the second part, but with the first -- of course, as the one advocating for certain ethical actions, I get to specify which charities I think deserve the benefit. We're talking about ethics here, so we're talking about opinion. In my opinion, stealing from Wal-Mart and giving to certain charities which work towards the good of humanity would be an ethical action.

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Wal-Mart provides an extremely valuable service in that it provides the lowest prices for goods.  Their profit margin is shit and poor people are the greatest beneficiaries of their existence.  You're fake moralizing is inept and bankrupt.



Do you really think Wal-Mart's profit margins are shit? :lol: They are one of the most, if not THE most, profitable companies in the world. Most of their goods are made by people overseas in third world countries, many of them working in sweatshops. They buy off local mafia and police to prevent interference from the governments as well. The beneficiaries of their existence are *some* of the American poor, comparatively wealthy citizens of a first world country who probably wouldn't even be poor by American standards, if not for massive companies like Wal-Mart making it nearly impossible to make a living as a small business owner/entrepreneur, and not paying livable wages to their employees.


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    #18858402 - 09/18/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Walmart's profit margin is 3.61%.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=WMT


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    #18858408 - 09/18/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18858409 - 09/18/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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KremrBigSikter said:
Well, I'm of the belief that it's the act of murder that makes someone a murderer. Call me old fashioned.



So, if you were to come upon someone dangling from a cliff, begging to be pulled up before their grip strength gave out, and you watched as they fell, then you wouldn't consider yourself a murderer?

I would call that murder.

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Oh so you get to decide what is the proper charity.

Let me guess.  Your charitable giving amounts to 3 figures at most.



You're deliving into ad-hominem again here with the second part, but with the first -- of course, as the one advocating for certain ethical actions, I get to specify which charities I think deserve the benefit. 

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Wal-Mart provides an extremely valuable service in that it provides the lowest prices for goods.  Their profit margin is shit and poor people are the greatest beneficiaries of their existence.  You're fake moralizing is inept and bankrupt.



Do you really think Wal-Mart's profit margins are shit? :lol: They are one of the most, if not THE most, profitable countries in the world. Most of their goods is made by people overseas in third world countries, many of them working in sweatshops. They buy off local mafia and police to prevent interference from the governments as well. The beneficiaries of their existence are *some* of the American poor, comparatively wealthy citizens of a first world country who probably wouldn't even be poor by American standards, if not for massive companies like Wal-Mart making it nearly impossible to make a living as a small business owner/entrepreneur, and not paying livable wages to their employees.





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    #18858442 - 09/18/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

1. You'll get caught eventually and end up with a petty theft charge.
2. Wal-Mart is a publicly traded company.  When you steal from them, you're ultimately stealing from pretty much everyone who has a 401(k)...that means lots of grandmothers
3. When you steal from Wal-Mart, you make it cost more for them to operate, so they have even less to pay employees.


You're a part of the problem, dude.  Just admit that you steal because you like free shit.  You're no folk hero.


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    #18858452 - 09/18/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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KremrBigSikter said:
Well, I'm of the belief that it's the act of murder that makes someone a murderer. Call me old fashioned.



So, if you were to come upon someone dangling from a cliff, begging to be pulled up before their grip strength gave out, and you watched as they fell, then you wouldn't consider yourself a murderer?




No. It's morally reprehensible, of course, (tho I'm sure you could find someone on this board who'd argue that it's none of their problem) but not murder. You didn't cause that person to die, and if you hadn't been there that person would have died anyway. If you can save someone's life, you should try, I obviously agree with that. I don't believe in taking another person's life, however. We've all see the question about the runaway train and the fat guy on the overpass. I wouldn't kill him even if he's fat and disgusting. But that's me.


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    #18858460 - 09/18/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:



You missed the point of the question, the point is that doing something wrong in the name of something right does not make the bad deed less bad, it simply adds a second deed which is good.

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Is a poor man stealing a few cans of food from Walmart to feed his starving family "bad stealing?"
If someone without health insurance manages to steal a bottle of antibiotics to treat a family member and cure them of a potentially life threatening infection "bad" or "good" stealing? Big pharma companies wont be taking a hit



You know that’s not the kind of shoplifting were talking about, stealing to survive and stealing for fun and profit are not the same thing.


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    #18858467 - 09/18/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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http://www.mich-lawyer.com/helpful-links/entry-into-canada

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    #18858475 - 09/18/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If we want to get away from the knowledge that thieves are scumbags...

What if 1 of the 10 that you kill would have gone on to develop a vaccine that prevented the next flu pandemic? Not killing him could save millions.

It's not your choice to make.



Okay, but no one can ever know all the possible consequences of their decisions. We're playing the odds every time we try to do anything right.

And, odds are that if someone is going to develop a vaccine that prevents the next flu pandemic, they'll be in the group of 1000 and not the group of 10.


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    #18858490 - 09/18/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't say felonies only. It merely elaborates that DWI in Canada is a felony.

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Almost all convictions (including DUI, DWI, reckless driving, negligent driving, misdemeanor drug possession, all felonies, domestic violence (assault IV), shoplifting, theft, etc) can make a person inadmissible to Canada, regardless of when they occurred.




from another source:

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An individual can be considered inadmissible to Canada for a either a felony or a misdemeanor offense (known as an indictable or summary offense, respectively, in Canada). However, many tourists, especially those from visa-exempt countries such as the United States, are not aware that even a long-forgotten misdemeanor offense such as a DUI will hinder their entry to Canada.




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    #18858494 - 09/18/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am extremely anti-shoplifting.

I dont care how evil the person is being stolen from.
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If we want to get away from the knowledge that thieves are scumbags...

What if 1 of the 10 that you kill would have gone on to develop a vaccine that prevented the next flu pandemic? Not killing him could save millions.

It's not your choice to make.



Okay, but no one can ever know all the possible consequences of their decisions. We're playing the odds every time we try to do anything right.

And, odds are that if someone is going to develop a vaccine that prevents the next flu pandemic, they'll be in the group of 1000 and not the group of 10.




It doesn't matter what the odds are. You don't know the consequences of your actions. It's not your choice to make.


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IMO, not being able to go to Canada is one of the only good parts about having a criminal record.


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It doesn't say felonies only. It merely elaborates that DWI in Canada is a felony.

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Almost all convictions (including DUI, DWI, reckless driving, negligent driving, misdemeanor drug possession, all felonies, domestic violence (assault IV), shoplifting, theft, etc) can make a person inadmissible to Canada, regardless of when they occurred.




from another source:

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http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-eases-entry-rules-for-visitors-with-minor-convictions.html




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IMO, not being able to go to Canada is one of the only good parts about having a criminal record.




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I'm sure there were a few nice offices in Auschwitz, too...That doesn't mean I'd like to be sent there.


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    #18858510 - 09/18/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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KremrBigSikter said:
Well, I'm of the belief that it's the act of murder that makes someone a murderer. Call me old fashioned.



So, if you were to come upon someone dangling from a cliff, begging to be pulled up before their grip strength gave out, and you watched as they fell, then you wouldn't consider yourself a murderer?

I would call that murder.




I think they actually call that depraved indifference homicide.
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Oh so you get to decide what is the proper charity.

Let me guess.  Your charitable giving amounts to 3 figures at most.



You're deliving into ad-hominem again here with the second part, but with the first -- of course, as the one advocating for certain ethical actions, I get to specify which charities I think deserve the benefit. We're talking about ethics here, so we're talking about opinion. In my opinion, stealing from Wal-Mart and giving to certain charities which work towards the good of humanity would be an ethical action.




Providing cheap prices for customers, steady employment for workers and taxed out the ass profits isn't enough?  No, you would send a gang of thieves in to steal and redirect all of that into what you, in your emperor's clothes, deem fit.  Really?
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Wal-Mart provides an extremely valuable service in that it provides the lowest prices for goods.  Their profit margin is shit and poor people are the greatest beneficiaries of their existence.  You're fake moralizing is inept and bankrupt.



Do you really think Wal-Mart's profit margins are shit? :lol: They are one of the most, if not THE most, profitable countries in the world. Most of their goods are made by people overseas in third world countries, many of them working in sweatshops. They buy off local mafia and police to prevent interference from the governments as well. The beneficiaries of their existence are *some* of the American poor, comparatively wealthy citizens of a first world country who probably wouldn't even be poor by American standards, if not for massive companies like Wal-Mart making it nearly impossible to make a living as a small business owner/entrepreneur, and not paying livable wages to their employees.




http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/NYSE/Company/Wal-Mart-Stores-Inc/Ratios/Profitability#Net-Profit-Margin

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Net Profit Margin, Comparison to Industry
Wal-Mart Stores Inc.1 3.65%




Your ignorance is massive.  Who benefits form their goods being made overseas?  Their customers.  I have heard about some of the graft but it isn't about buying off mafia or police.  It is about greasing obstructionist officials in corrupt countries and it is peanuts.  The people in those countries who are employed making wal mart goods are damn happy they even have jobs.  Living wage?  You get the wage your service can command.  Every poor person who shops at Wal-Mart benefits. 

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    #18858513 - 09/18/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I am extremely anti-shoplifting.

I dont care how evil the person is being stolen from.
The principle is not sinking to their level.



It would be impossible for any individual shoplifter to sink to Wal-Mart's level.

That is, unless they enslaved hundreds of poor, starving children first.

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It doesn't matter what the odds are. You don't know the consequences of your actions. It's not your choice to make.



If that's true, then nobody should ever try to do anything for anybody. Hell, if you tried to help an old woman crossing the street you might trip and accidentally push her into oncoming traffic. You probably won't (just as the person who develops the vaccine probably won't be in the group that is killed), but since the possibility exists, it's not your decision to make.


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    #18858521 - 09/18/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm sure there were a few nice offices in Auschwitz, too...That doesn't mean I'd like to be sent there.




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    #18858526 - 09/18/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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IMO, not being able to go to Canada is one of the only good parts about having a criminal record.




Now now, there are some nice places in Canada.



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    #18858527 - 09/18/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18858529 - 09/18/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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3. When you steal from Wal-Mart, you make it cost more for them to operate, so they have even less to pay employees.





Stealing does not make it cost more to operate, it lowers the profit that the corporation makes. If walmart loses $500 in merchandise, their employees will not get paid any less then they are already making, which is minimum wage.


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    #18858532 - 09/18/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think they actually call that depraved indifference homicide.




Not so much.  You have no duty to rescue someone from imminent death, even if it would be super safe and easy for you to do so.

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    #18858533 - 09/18/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well well--looky there---you being the snake you are I still very much respect your opinion----you shouldn't deter me though---bad business and all


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    #18858543 - 09/18/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I am extremely anti-shoplifting.

I dont care how evil the person is being stolen from.
The principle is not sinking to their level.



It would be impossible for any individual shoplifter to sink to Wal-Mart's level.




They couldn't rise to Wal-Mart's level.
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That is, unless they enslaved hundreds of poor, starving children first.




Wal-Mart doesn't enslave anyone
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It doesn't matter what the odds are. You don't know the consequences of your actions. It's not your choice to make.



If that's true, then nobody should ever try to do anything for anybody. Hell, if you tried to help an old woman crossing the street you might trip and accidentally push her into oncoming traffic. You probably won't (just as the person who develops the vaccine probably won't be in the group that is killed), but since the possibility exists, it's not your decision to make.




What part of "not your choice to make" is difficult for you?
http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2011/04/06/walmart-increases-global-giving-in-last-fiscal-year-companys-us-foundation-continues-to-take-a-leadership-role-fighting-hunger

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Overall, Walmart and the Walmart Foundation’s giving in FYE11 includes:

    $732 million in cash and in-kind gifts in the U.S., up from $467 million in fiscal year ending 2010;
    $66.8 million in cash and in-kind gifts in international markets, up from $45 million in fiscal year ending 2010;
    $114 million from Walmart’s customers and associates through in-store giving programs that benefit local charities; and
    $913 million in total charitable contributions from Walmart, its Foundations, its customers and its associates around the globe in fiscal year ending 2011.

Last May, Walmart announced a historic $2 billion commitment of cash and in-kind gifts to hunger relief organizations in the U.S. through 2015. The company is making good on its pledge, giving 256 million pounds of food to local food banks in the last fiscal year, the equivalent to 197 million meals. The retailer and its Foundation also gave $62 million in grants to U.S. hunger nonprofits.




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    #18858545 - 09/18/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As a note, I did post a rebuttal statement to your dismissal of Kant's philosophy regarding this.  It seems to have been lost in the shuffle.  Your response to Muscaria made it relevant again tho.

All you say to the axe murderer is "no Im protecting him and can't let you in."

By stealing from wal-mart not only do you violate the first principle of universality but also deny the rationality of walmart's actions regarding what they deem fit.

Don't get me wrong, I hate walmart.  But for once zappa is right, simply denying them patronage is the morally upright path here.  IMO, at least.


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    #18858546 - 09/18/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If that's true, then nobody should ever try to do anything for anybody. Hell, if you tried to help an old woman crossing the street you might trip and accidentally push her into oncoming traffic. You probably won't (just as the person who develops the vaccine probably won't be in the group that is killed), but since the possibility exists, it's not your decision to make.




WTF? Now you're trying to equate helping someone with killing someone?

It's the old womans choice to accept the help or not. Are you going to give a choice to the 10 poor humans you'd kill to save the others?


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    #18858548 - 09/18/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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3. When you steal from Wal-Mart, you make it cost more for them to operate, so they have even less to pay employees.





Stealing does not make it cost more to operate, it lowers the profit that the corporation makes. If walmart loses $500 in merchandise, their employees will not get paid any less then they are already making, which is minimum wage.



Wrong on both.

1. Stealing means that walmart purchases items that don't get sold, this is an increase in cost to operate.
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    #18858549 - 09/18/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think they actually call that depraved indifference homicide.




Not so much.  You have no duty to rescue someone from imminent death, even if it would be super safe and easy for you to do so.

The only exceptions are when you created the hazard or if you have a special relationship with the person in peril.



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    #18858557 - 09/18/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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felonies only, I doubt one could steal enough shit at one time from Walmart to be a felony charge.



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    #18858564 - 09/18/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not entirely sure that is true in all states.



Luckily, you don't have to be.  I, on the other hand, am entirely sure that it's true in every state in the U.S.

Even when one of the two exceptions apply, it's not depraved heart homicide.  It's only a civil liability.

You might be thinking of the poorly named "good Samaritan laws."  They don't make it homicide, but there is a misdemeanor for failure to seek aid in certain conditions.  Nonetheless, these laws aren't enforced, and it's widely presumed that they're unconstitutional anyway.


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    #18858586 - 09/18/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18858587 - 09/18/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

could you explain to me the ramifications that would happen to me if I got caught--like sentencing and such-----and how bad did ellis dee and Listerine get lit up for saying STUPID shit like that---that was some evil shit to say


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    #18858589 - 09/18/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How does one effectively steal anyway? I've stolen plenty of little things from supermarkets and stuff (and I stopped) but I can only imagine the only reason I got away with it is because no one was actually looking at the monitors.


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    #18858611 - 09/18/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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WTF? Now you're trying to equate helping someone with killing someone?



The analogy isn't perfect, but understand the point I'm making: In no circumstances do you have any certainty that your actions will produce the expected outcomes. Any moral action at all, by anyone is playing the odds to an extent.

In our imaginary hypothetical situation, I would argue that, since you have full knowledge of the choice you are making, choosing to not kill the ten would, morally, be directly equivalent to killing the other 1,000, just as if you had pulled the trigger yourself. The decision rests on your shoulders: not if you should kill, but who you should kill. It's not fair and it's not a decision anyone should have to make, but sometimes people really do have to make difficult choices.

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It's the old womans choice to accept the help or not. Are you going to give a choice to the 10 poor humans you'd kill to save the others?



Since one of the groups of people would have to die, I'd put it to a vote.


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    #18858615 - 09/18/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt


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    #18858619 - 09/18/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's the old womans choice to accept the help or not. Are you going to give a choice to the 10 poor humans you'd kill to save the others?



Since one of the groups of people would have to die, I'd put it to a vote.




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    #18858624 - 09/18/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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could you explain to me the ramifications that would happen to me if I got caught--like sentencing and such-----and how bad did ellis dee and Listerine get lit up for saying STUPID shit like that---that was some evil shit to say



I can tell you this:  I tried to steal a pump from Home depot and got caught.  Consequences:

1. 2 years probation
2. $800 in fines
3. $600 for expungement
4. It delayed my admission to the bar for over 2 years AFTER passing the exam.

That's 2 years of lawyer pay I didn't get because of it.  Your mileage may vary, but getting caught will almost certainly reduce your employability.


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    #18858651 - 09/18/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OMG!!!! you lifted----dddd--damn----but yeah it seems it just aint worth it----as far as employability goes how is it any different when you cant get a job anyhow because of this fucked economy---I mean its an employers market---and they can pay shit and expect you to smile about it these days---meanwhile they are making more money than they ever did-----and for future reference big shit like pumps DONT fit in ya britches--lol


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    #18858656 - 09/18/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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WTF? Now you're trying to equate helping someone with killing someone?



The analogy isn't perfect, but understand the point I'm making: In no circumstances do you have any certainty that your actions will produce the expected outcomes. Any moral action at all, by anyone is playing the odds to an extent.

In our imaginary hypothetical situation, I would argue that, since you have full knowledge of the choice you are making, choosing to not kill the ten would, morally, be directly equivalent to killing the other 1,000, just as if you had pulled the trigger yourself. The decision rests on your shoulders: not if you should kill, but who you should kill. It's not fair and it's not a decision anyone should have to make, but sometimes people really do have to make difficult choices.

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It's the old womans choice to accept the help or not. Are you going to give a choice to the 10 poor humans you'd kill to save the others?



Since one of the groups of people would have to die, I'd put it to a vote.



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If you kill 10 people to save 1000 does that make killing 10 people right?



In that case, yes it does.

There's no such thing as a perfect world. Every decision has positive and negative consequences. "Right" is the best decision you can make under the circumstances. :shrug:



You missed the point of the question, the point is that doing something wrong in the name of something right does not make the bad deed less bad, it simply adds a second deed which is good.

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Is a poor man stealing a few cans of food from Walmart to feed his starving family "bad stealing?"
If someone without health insurance manages to steal a bottle of antibiotics to treat a family member and cure them of a potentially life threatening infection "bad" or "good" stealing? Big pharma companies wont be taking a hit



You know that’s not the kind of shoplifting were talking about, stealing to survive and stealing for fun and profit are not the same thing.




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    #18858675 - 09/18/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

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    #18858700 - 09/18/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

that's how we ate back in the "906 house days". there was a house at 906 ad we fuxkin partyed hard there..




That's pretty shameful, but then again, a person can't expect to just set up a store and lay everything out and expect stuff not to be taken. People have a responsibility to protect their own property.


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    #18858717 - 09/18/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When you shop at a grocery store like Winco or Pubix, where employees are vocal about how much they like their jobs, the message you're sending is pretty clear: I love what you guys are doing; here's a little $$$ to help open a new store and slowly fix what's wrong with the world.

When you do this buy/steal combo at Walmart, you aren't sending a good message. You either: 1. Don't steal enough so you're supporting the company's evil ways. 2. Don't steal enough and come out neutral so no message is sent at all. 3. Steal enough and hurt Walmart's insurance company that protects against losses. Maybe their premiums will go up next year, but the Waltons will cut worker's pay before they hurt themselves. Conclusion: You'd need to burn down all their stores.


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ya gots to be fast and get it in your head that you are doing nothing wrong---half of that is damn right--the other im starting to doubt



when I stole back in the day. I'd go in like I was there to shop for some serious groceries. I'd get a cart and go shoppin for what ever the hell I wanted ans fill the cart up with ribs and beef ad all kinds of goodies! and instead of paying just stroll right out the door like its your shit no prob! no one ever said a werd:shrug:

that's how we ate back in the "906 house days". there was a house at 906 ad we fuxkin partyed hard there..




That's pretty shameful, but then again, a person can't expect to just set up a store and lay everything out and expect stuff not to be taken. People have a responsibility to protect their own property.



your quote is messed up...

but yes it is shameful and I do not participate or condone these types of things anymore. I was a child being stupid.


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    #18858743 - 09/18/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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but yes it is shameful and I do not participate or condone these types of things anymore. I was a child being stupid.




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    #18858756 - 09/18/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that's how my brother USED to get down---but he was feeding his kids---now he HAD some balls--he also passed some bad checks----and got caught at wallyworld jacking some RCA cables-----man in hindsight yall bout seen me on youtube and the like---ive done some crazy shit in regards to this topic----but I aint ever stole from the working man or them mom and pop stores--I mean really I aint----HONESTLY---I know some of yall have your doubts--but seriously though---and this aint my computer nor ISP nor is any shit at my house---I aint gonna get caught less I go do it again which I believe ive had my fill


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    #18858759 - 09/18/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno why there is all this hate towards Walmart if anything the company increases the standard of living for people with minimum wage jobs and lower education especially in times like these with the economic depression. Walmart forces competitors to lower prices all around in an area. Who the fuck can complain about paying less for goods that cost more??


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    #18858776 - 09/18/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

cause more than half of that money is going back to china---and as far as the waltons go walmart was intended to sell American made products to American people---sam Walton must be turning in his grave---walmart is now owned by some dutch fucker


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    #18858800 - 09/18/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Walmart is owned by many thousands of American citizens.  Rationalize it all you want, but you're stealing from your own granny.


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    #18858834 - 09/18/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

don't put me with those folks that scam those folks out of their life savings---I aint Madoff or something--lol---but yeah im gonna stop---hey I might need to do a poll-----never did that---call it the down with walmart poll---lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858849 - 09/18/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The only difference between shoplifting and what Madoff did is the amount of money.


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    #18858859 - 09/18/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

and I walked right--right through the door----and its mine---mine o mine---lets go ----lol


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858868 - 09/18/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP you're going to get caught eventually. Imagine how embarrassed you will feel.

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    #18858891 - 09/18/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what I do/did is almost justified/harmless---what he did was dastardly--just don't put me with robbing grannies---or some folks say stealing is stealing--I feel it is not--but either way im stopping only for self preservation


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858898 - 09/18/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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what I do/did is almost justified/harmless---what he did was dastardly--just don't put me with robbing grannies---or some folks say stealing is stealing--I feel it is not--but either way im stopping only for self preservation




hey bud, I'm not hating on ya. people r gonna do what they do.
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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18858904 - 09/18/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.


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    #18858912 - 09/18/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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either way im stopping only for self preservation




no surprises there, go ahead take care of the one person who is the most important in this whole world :rolleyes:

the one person who is so special he doesn't have to pay for stuff
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Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.





Stealing beer makes ALL of the other items in the store more expensive for EVERYBODY.

you aren't stealing from wal mart, you are stealing from everybody who actually pays for their goods



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    #18858914 - 09/18/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah my shit probably reads like an old 1890's western union telegraph--dunno I just do it that way and nobodys called me on it---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------till now----------------------------lol


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yeah my shit probably reads like an old 1890's western union telegraph--dunno I just do it that way and nobodys called me on it---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------till now----------------------------lol



your shit reads like a 5 year old southerner.

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    #18858921 - 09/18/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No wonder I spend nearly $200 every time I go to walmart. They keep charging me for the shit OP is stealing. :peyotezen:


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18858934 - 09/18/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.



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    #18858935 - 09/18/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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either way im stopping only for self preservation




no surprises there, go ahead take care of the one person who is the most important in this whole world :rolleyes:

the one person who is so special he doesn't have to pay for stuff
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Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.





Stealing beer makes ALL of the other items in the store more expensive for EVERYBODY.

you aren't stealing from wal mart, you are stealing from everybody who actually pays for their goods



god damn, I can look past the drug use here but you thieving fuckers need to die




You have your opinion, and I have mine. If you truly believe that "thieving fuckers need to die" I feel sorry for you :shrug:

Every time you buy stuff from Walmart, you are feeding a corporate monster that is going to engulf every main street in America.


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Stealing from Walmart is not wrong. Stealing beer from Walmart and drinking it with your friends is the equivalent of a modern day robin hood. Keep doing what you're doing.



Stealing is wrong.  You drinking is wrong because you have unformed brain cells that alcohol can severely damage.



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    #18858943 - 09/18/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tough.  Compete or die.  You are against freedom of choice.  You are a fascist.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18858944 - 09/18/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

robin hood just asked me to slap you in the face for comparing yourself to him.

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Tough.  Compete or die.  You are against freedom of choice.  You are a fascist.




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    #18858951 - 09/18/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The worst is the stores where the employees decide that you look like someone who would steal and follow you around. Fuck that shit.


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    #18858954 - 09/18/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Every time you buy stuff from Walmart, you are feeding a corporate monster that is going to engulf every main street in America.



That's just the bullshit you tell yourself because you want to be able to get shit for free.

Stealing from walmart or any corporation is stealing from main street.  It's stealing from the rank and file, hard working American who is diligently stuffing a few bucks a month into his 401(k) in the hopes that he might be able to have a few years between retirement and death where he won't have to work like a machine.


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    #18858958 - 09/18/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've got no problem with it when it comes to massive chains such a wally world, however after getting arrested for doing it I'm over it.


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Tough.  Compete or die.  You are against freedom of choice.  You are a fascist.




Again, :lol:

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Tough.  Compete or die.  You are against freedom of choice.  You are a fascist.




Again, :lol:

Me, a facist?



Yeah, you.  You want to take people's choices away.  Freely entered choices.




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    #18858977 - 09/18/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I've got no problem with it when it comes to massive chains such a wally world, however after getting arrested for doing it I'm over it.



fear of consequences is the only way to stop some people from hurting others and being selfish pricks.


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    #18858978 - 09/18/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The worst is the stores where the employees decide that you look like someone who would steal and follow you around. Fuck that shit.




Agreed. This happens to me a lot and idk why. Only when I go into Walmart though. Idk if its because we usually walk the whole store, but we never bring backpacks or purses in so idk what's up but ill notice the same person following us around.

I ain't ever worried though, because we don't steal.

I sometimes will stop at the store up the street when I'm out for a bike ride, I have a little backpack that I keep my money and phone in, never had anyone follow me around in that store. Hell, if I ever was accused of stealing id gladly let them search me and then when they don't find shit id be asking for a managers name and number. Id raise all kinds of hell haha.


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    #18858982 - 09/18/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

im 34 fucking years old---you don't get as good as I am without learning and getting burned---trust me folks I aint a kid


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im 34 fucking years old---you don't get as good as I am without learning and getting burned---trust me folks I aint a kid



right, you just make decisions like one.


Shoplifting in your 30's god what a loser :rofl:

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    #18859017 - 09/18/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it does to a point, but the fact that I've lost two internships and my job, not to mention maturity, have proven to me at least that it's not worth it. However I love seeing others get away with it.


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    #18859020 - 09/18/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

People who steal give jobs to security, loss prevention, camera installation people, the people who make the cameras, the alarm installation ETC. Thought I'd throw that out there but honestly,  STEALING IS WRONG FROM ANYWHERE.


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    #18859028 - 09/18/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The worst is the stores where the employees decide that you look like someone who would steal and follow you around. Fuck that shit.




Agreed. This happens to me a lot and idk why. Only when I go into Walmart though. Idk if its because we usually walk the whole store, but we never bring backpacks or purses in so idk what's up but ill notice the same person following us around.

I ain't ever worried though, because we don't steal.

I sometimes will stop at the store up the street when I'm out for a bike ride, I have a little backpack that I keep my money and phone in, never had anyone follow me around in that store. Hell, if I ever was accused of stealing id gladly let them search me and then when they don't find shit id be asking for a managers name and number. Id raise all kinds of hell haha.



yeah that's the APA--asset protection agency---and they look like regular shoppers--but they are doing just that--busting folks like me---don't wanna be mean but you must look the part---aint that some shit--profiling and all---and I dig animal lovers--ive had pets that were smarter than most folks ive met--lol


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    #18859032 - 09/18/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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VICTIMS OF People who steal give jobs to security, loss prevention, camera installation people, the people who make the cameras, the alarm installation ETC.



I fixed it for you.

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    #18859038 - 09/18/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well if the thieves weren't there neither would the jobs..AGAIN I THINK STEALING IS WRONG


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    #18859044 - 09/18/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If rapists weren't out there, there would be less mace factory jobs.


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    #18859057 - 09/18/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know how id fit the part, or look like someone who steals. Like I said I don't ever bring my purse into walmart when we shop. Idk I just think they have people constantly watching who shops in their store. And yes, they do look like any other random person "shopping " but we have watched them bust people, that's always fun.

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    #18859062 - 09/18/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yup, you get it. There are positives to every negative. Unfortunately the negatives usually out weigh the positives. :thumbdown:


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I always wear a full body spandex leotard when I go to Walmart...

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    #18859073 - 09/18/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18859087 - 09/18/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I go to walmart when I need personal care items because they're way cheaper than buying it at Fry's

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    #18859092 - 09/18/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It'd be even cheaper if scum wasn't stealing from it.


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I have been to Walmart maybe three times, but not in years.  It's not the kind of place I have any use for.


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Very true. Stop stealing OP you're too fucking old to know better.




I believe the saying is "you're old enough to know better".


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you're too fucking old to know better




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    #18859121 - 09/18/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't agree with stealing, but I don't really give a shit if you steal from Walmart.  Every one of their stores could burn to the ground tomorrow and I would be happier than if I won the lottery.  Fuck walmart.  Also, don't pay much mind to the people talking shit to you, fuck em.


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    #18859128 - 09/18/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP are you sure you don't just like taking shit and the rush of getting away?


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    #18859129 - 09/18/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18859132 - 09/18/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
Very true. Stop stealing OP you're too fucking old to know better.




I believe the saying is "you're old enough to know better".


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Implies he's old enough to have lost his mental acuity.



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    #18859137 - 09/18/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18859139 - 09/18/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Fast enough to read the "spins" part, too slow to read the "two inch" part.

Figures.

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    #18859165 - 09/18/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I pay for my goods, and people who steal make those goods more expensive.  You are stealing directly from me so yes, die.




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Your sobriety has increased your edginess 10 fold. Violence is never the answer.



:bored:
you're telling me.... :rofl:

fair enough.

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    #18859177 - 09/18/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18859180 - 09/18/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Your sobriety has increased your edginess 10 fold. Violence is never the answer.



:bored:
you're telling me.... :rofl:

fair enough.

I don't actually think they should be killed that's a hugely inappropriate punishment.

arrested and charged yeah




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    #18859202 - 09/18/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know the grid the personnel use to dictate where to look when they call a security scan---when I walk in I listen to these types of things---I have NEVER heard em call a sector I was in---there are others way better than me doing the same thing


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    #18859205 - 09/18/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure you're not just being lazy and don't work to work hard enough to be able to afford whatever you buy and covering it up with some superhero down with the man reason?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859206 - 09/18/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You really shouldn't steal from Walmart, what you should do is ruin products in the store.  Just go in with a high powered magnet and make your way to the electronics section.


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Sure you're not just being lazy and don't work to hard to be able to afford whatever you buy and convering it up with some superhero down with the man reason?




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    #18859222 - 09/18/13 05:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I keeps a wad and still do what I do--so no it aint like that---I also got friends that do/did work there soo---im done talking about my methods--im gonna stop as of today----and ill tell you another place I hate FAR more is the pawn shop---now I might actually burn one of them fuckers down--they exist solely on folks having a hard time and heads robbing folks for their habit


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    #18859228 - 09/18/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I hope your being serious when you say you're gonna stop. Its not worth going to jail, dude.

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You really shouldn't steal from Walmart, what you should do is ruin products in the store.  Just go in with a high powered magnet and make your way to the electronics section.





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    #18859255 - 09/18/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18859263 - 09/18/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

now think of that situation---man goes in the store to buy a cd/dvd opens it and has to go back for a refund---that's just fucking the working man---the one that has to pay for this high ass gas


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    #18859280 - 09/18/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A large magnet wouldn't damage a cd or dvd...or a player of either.  It could possibly damage a laptop but it would take a very, very powerful magnet.


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    #18859286 - 09/18/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

not going to feed ya man---sorry---you'll have to starve--or go to walmart and get your own


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859289 - 09/18/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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been doing a little research on the subject and it seems shoplifting and the whole risk/reward thing aint too much different than crack addiction---I dunno but Im starting to think about why I really do it and maybe stopping--its getting to be a real problem---im pretty good at it and over the years ive really tore walmarts ass up---like in the thousands $$




Hahah, you are a truly pitiful human, getting a rush from petty theft. Not only is this reprehensible sub-human behaviour, you actually think a few thousand dollars is having any tangible impact on such a financial juggernaut as Walmart? Try to use your fucking brain just for a second, guy.

Perhaps with a little help, you can overcome your kleptomania. In the mean time, try to spare us your warped justifications for acting like a fucking animal.


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not going to feed ya man---sorry---you'll have to starve--or go to walmart and get your own




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    #18859295 - 09/18/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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A large magnet wouldn't damage a cd or dvd...or a player of either.  It could possibly damage a laptop but it would take a very, very powerful magnet.




Laptops, hard drives, and gaming systems.  You can get high powered magnets at home depot.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859296 - 09/18/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you are in a life or death situation where you're starving it can be argued that once can steal a loaf of bread to stay alive. But, one still is a thief.

If you steal without pressing need or even recreationally one can enjoy no such defense.

If you steal you're a thief, but if you steal without need its considerably worse.

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When I go to walmart I make it a point to jack bout as much as I spend---I feel wallyworld is evil and mostly responsible for the situation we are in now by pumping all that Chinese made garbage to the people of the US




All that doesn't matter. You, personally, commit the evil of stealing.  Do you steal things you hate?  Do you give to the poor? Or is it a combination of greed and eroded moral values?


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A large magnet wouldn't damage a cd or dvd...or a player of either.  It could possibly damage a laptop but it would take a very, very powerful magnet.




Laptops, hard drives, and gaming systems.  You can get high powered magnets at home depot.



It won't damage a hard drive per se...just the data that's on it.  So the laptop and gaming systems, sure...but like I said, you're not going to do it with just a normal magnet.  You'd need a rare earth magnet, and walking around a store with one of those is just asking to fuck yourself up.


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    #18859317 - 09/18/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gaming systems are locked up anyway. You cant just go pick up an Xbox without getting an employee to open the cabinent.


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    #18859333 - 09/18/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah you are probly right--doesn't make it any less fun though--and like I said there are others worse than me---and eroded moral values--ha--welcome to America


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    #18859348 - 09/18/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Saying that there are others worse than you does not make you any less worse than you are. Nor does blaming your environment, the moral state of the nation, or any other such asininity.

You're a disgusting petty thief who steals on impulse. Absolute scum.

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You really shouldn't steal from Walmart, what you should do is ruin products in the store.  Just go in with a high powered magnet and make your way to the electronics section.




A magnet large enough to damage goods in Walmart would be much more likely to damage your fingers. And your pants.


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I should have said "powerful" as opposed to "large".


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I have some powerful rare earth magnets, and they are no joke.  It's really easy to give yourself blood blisters with those things.


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I have quite a few. I use them for fixturing. The more powerful ones can take a finger.


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    #18859388 - 09/18/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well you could always just fill a shopping cart full of steaks and ice cream then just walk around the store for 6 hours.



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I have quite a few. I use them for fixturing. The more powerful ones can take a finger.



or thunderclap your 2" dick clean off if you got one in either pocket---lol--what do they call em--its on the tip of my tongue--dielectric or some shit--it starts with a d--diammonium---ahh dammit--tell me---its in my tophat gold magnet---ahh hell I did say thanks--must not have made it---thanks though seriously---and I appreciate you all---probly could have used some of yall to smack me in the face rather smartly when I was doing some of the stupid shit ive done in my life so far--either way im gonna change--I going to quit doing some of this shit--thanks again all--for just shooting it straight


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Enlil]
    #18859455 - 09/18/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Asante]
    #18859459 - 09/18/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you are in a life or death situation where you're starving it can be argued that once can steal a loaf of bread to stay alive. But, one still is a thief.

If you steal without pressing need or even recreationally one can enjoy no such defense.

If you steal you're a thief, but if you steal without need its considerably worse.

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When I go to walmart I make it a point to jack bout as much as I spend---I feel wallyworld is evil and mostly responsible for the situation we are in now by pumping all that Chinese made garbage to the people of the US




All that doesn't matter. You, personally, commit the evil of stealing.  Do you steal things you hate?  Do you give to the poor? Or is it a combination of greed and eroded moral values?




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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Enlil]
    #18859470 - 09/18/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah yeah that's it--that's man--hey they gotta create that stuff in a lab don't they--cause it don't exist in nature right


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18859493 - 09/18/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: something super extreme]
    #18859522 - 09/18/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18859555 - 09/18/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well you could always just fill a shopping cart full of steaks and ice cream then just walk around the store for 6 hours.



i think they have portable grills somewhere in the home improvement section too, plus bowls and spoons :strokebeard:



http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/woman-caught-cooking-meth-inside-a-south-st-louis-county/article_c21df9fc-b108-11e1-8d6f-0019bb30f31a.html
http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/290289/28/Oklahoma-woman-accused-of-cooking-meth-inside-Walmart
http://www.businessinsider.com/man-arrested-in-ohio-walmart-for-cooking-meth-2012-6

Literally, someone gets caught cooking crank in a walmart on almost a monthly basis.  I guess they figure you can't get arrested for stealing meth, I really don't understand how fucking retarded people are.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: NWlight]
    #18859557 - 09/18/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

or it has to be like extracted from ore---either way when they say rare earth they mean it--its way rarer than gold---and SVS you really are a fucking douche--I mean like I aint seen one fucking thing where you contribute anything but your smartass shitpinion---WTF--go on somewhere--like other than here


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859566 - 09/18/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You asked for our fucking opinions.

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I am terribly sorry that you struggle when presented with a little bit of honesty, but that's really not my problem.
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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859579 - 09/18/13 06:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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or it has to be like extracted from ore---either way when they say rare earth they mean it--its way rarer than gold---and SVS you really are a fucking douche--I mean like I aint seen one fucking thing where you contribute anything but your smartass shitpinion---WTF--go on somewhere--like other than here





You admitted being a thief, if you were stealing from most any place other that Walmart no one here would approve of it.  Stealing is wrong, I just happen to hate walmart more than I hate thieves.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859601 - 09/18/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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im 34 fucking years old---you don't get as good as I am without learning and getting burned---trust me folks I aint a kid




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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: fapjack]
    #18859602 - 09/18/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that SVS dude has just got an air about him---like this stinking ass fart I just cut---which reminds me im gonna have to cover that smell with some of this dank I got/grew--ill be back---gimme a min


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: fapjack]
    #18859656 - 09/18/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You really shouldn't steal from Walmart, what you should do is ruin products in the store.  Just go in with a high powered magnet and make your way to the electronics section.



Yeah, give the employees there more bullshit.

Stealing money from Wal*Mart isn't changing a damn thing. Unless you tell them about it and try to start some movement, they're just gonna list and talk about items being stolen from them, and not considering any change.

Stealing from them is also stealing from the companies of the products Wal*Mart sells. Is all of the companies who's products are in the stores scumbags too? Maybe. Do you know?

Regardless, I'm against stealing. Though I'm not innocent, because I've watched streams of PPVs including recently for free.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859665 - 09/18/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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that SVS dude has just got an air about him---like this stinking ass fart I just cut---which reminds me im gonna have to cover that smell with some of this dank I jacked from some neighborhood kid




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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859700 - 09/18/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not saying shoplifting from WalMart is OK - it's not - but WalMart more or less steals from everyone else.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
    #18859718 - 09/18/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks man--good intentions and all-----I am BTW not at my house nor on my computer nor on the same service provider that I PAY for. Nor even at my house do I have anything illegal going on or laying around. Dunno am I missing anything??:sun:    going on---dammit--I need to ????ha


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Mr. Wilson]
    #18859754 - 09/18/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I used to do it before I was 21 I shop lifted bottle of vodka


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #18859766 - 09/18/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from them is also stealing from the companies of the products Wal*Mart sells.




How so? Walmart already bought and paid for them.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: psi]
    #18859780 - 09/18/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Stealing from them is also stealing from the companies of the products Wal*Mart sells.




How so? Walmart already bought and paid for them.



My bad. I actually was originally gonna ask that. I've wondered if companies buy everything and completely own them. Is it like Nielson ratings when keeping track of things being sold?


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #18859791 - 09/18/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How so? Walmart already bought and paid for them.



My bad. I actually was originally gonna ask that. I've wondered if companies buy everything and completely own them. Is it like Nielson ratings when keeping track of things being sold?




I always thought that the store usually takes the risk and buys them in full, but maybe all different types of arrangements are made.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: s240779]
    #18859807 - 09/18/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's how I would think it works, but admittedly I'm not totally sure. I guess some manufacturers do maintain their own displays (e.g. Nintendo) so maybe in those cases they still do own the products until they're sold.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18859827 - 09/18/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you are in a life or death situation where you're starving it can be argued that once can steal a loaf of bread to stay alive. But, one still is a thief.

If you steal without pressing need or even recreationally one can enjoy no such defense.

If you steal you're a thief, but if you steal without need its considerably worse.

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When I go to walmart I make it a point to jack bout as much as I spend---I feel wallyworld is evil and mostly responsible for the situation we are in now by pumping all that Chinese made garbage to the people of the US




All that doesn't matter. You, personally, commit the evil of stealing.  Do you steal things you hate?  Do you give to the poor? Or is it a combination of greed and eroded moral values?




I am going to make Shroomery history.  I agree 100% with W_S





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    #18859846 - 09/18/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Another WalMart shoplifting fact that is fucked up?

Employees' bonuses will be deducted based on how much shoplifting occurs at their store.  But what's worse- it doesn't matter because WalMart takes back employees' bonuses anyway and spends them on random shit around the store.

My brother worked there for about 5 years.  Every year they took EVERY employee's bonus money and spent it all on some kind of promotional crap.  For example, one year they used the money to pay Christmas carolers to walk around the store for 2 weeks.  Another year they paid a piano player to play Christmas songs.

Wait... I said every employee, right?  I'm wrong.  The upper managers got their multi-thousand dollar bonuses.  The same managers who thought it was a good idea to spend every else's bonus on Christmas carolers.

I don't know if this is nationwide, but it has happened at the 5-6 stores where people I know have worked.

It's things like that that make it hard for me to feel bad for WalMart when people steal from there.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Bender B Rodriguez]
    #18859861 - 09/18/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

your greed makes it okay for me to steal


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: Bender B Rodriguez]
    #18859872 - 09/18/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that almost makes wanna go do a run----just kidding though--:wink:


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    #18860013 - 09/18/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Another WalMart shoplifting fact that is fucked up?

Employees' bonuses will be deducted based on how much shoplifting occurs at their store.  But what's worse- it doesn't matter because WalMart takes back employees' bonuses anyway and spends them on random shit around the store.

My brother worked there for about 5 years.  Every year they took EVERY employee's bonus money and spent it all on some kind of promotional crap.  For example, one year they used the money to pay Christmas carolers to walk around the store for 2 weeks.  Another year they paid a piano player to play Christmas songs.

Wait... I said every employee, right?  I'm wrong.  The upper managers got their multi-thousand dollar bonuses.  The same managers who thought it was a good idea to spend every else's bonus on Christmas carolers.

I don't know if this is nationwide, but it has happened at the 5-6 stores where people I know have worked.

It's things like that that make it hard for me to feel bad for WalMart when people steal from there.



Walmart is a shitty store to work for and an even worse store to do business with.  They are run and owned by some of the greediest pieces of shit you've ever seen.  Its why they got that big though, people would rather spend $5 on a piece of shit fan at the cost of American jobs than buy one for $30 that will last 20 years.


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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: fapjack]
    #18860052 - 09/18/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The last few days at wal mart they been having this stupid guy and he is talking and doing demonstrations and shit and its really gay and tons of people stand around listening to him


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    #18860059 - 09/18/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How often do you go to walmart??


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    #18860066 - 09/18/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Shoplifting---and yall's opinion?? [Re: vinsue]
    #18860119 - 09/18/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I say Don't Mess With Texas!!  lol


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    #18860130 - 09/18/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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