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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: RiderOnTheStorm]
    #18857796 - 09/18/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The funny part about this thread is that every post you guys make just goes on to repeatedly prove my point- You lack empathy and understanding for other people's situations, and in fact work very hard to avoid seeing it from their perspective. You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.

How about you drop all the bullshit racial blame you've repeated to yourselves and say it with me:
  It is so sad that a 5 year old is afraid of the police just because of the color of his skin.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] * 1
    #18857797 - 09/18/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah I'm rolling my eyes at Wiccans comment.



Wiccan the White Guilt admin has a nice ring to it :grin:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante]
    #18857803 - 09/18/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That 5 year old is afraid of the cops because his FAMILY taught him to be thatcway


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18857809 - 09/18/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

"Their fault not mine"

It's more complicated than that.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch]
    #18857817 - 09/18/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
The funny part about this thread is that every post you guys make just goes on to repeatedly prove my point- You lack empathy and understanding for other people's situations, and in fact work very hard to avoid seeing it from their perspective. You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.

How about you drop all the bullshit racial blame you've repeated to yourselves and say it with me:
  It is so sad that a 5 year old is afraid of the police just because of the color of his skin.





It is sad that a 5 year old was been TAUGHT to be afraid of the police because of the color of his skin.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #18857818 - 09/18/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Why should I care about other peoples lives? I'm trying to live my own I'm trying to get by. Everyone should fend for themselves, why do we have to hold their hands and apologize because others treat them like shit? We all get treated like crap by others. Get over it.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 4
    #18857820 - 09/18/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
:justnotright:

...and in no time at all a thread starting with an evocative poem slides downward to become a festering cesspool of messageboard scat.




Scat?  If anything was scat it is your posting yet another race baiting piece of ignorant lies.  Did you really thiknk we were going to take that bullshit lying down?
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it seems like anything goes when there's black people involved in the forum topic. Throw mention of black people in the mix and the victim is attacked, white people angrily state what black people should think and do and, on a board hit hard by the War On Drugs, the police and the criminal justice system is defended as fair and just.




When the subject is how the young male Negro has been made a victim of unfair scrutiny I will vehemently and fervently deny that it is the least bit unfair and will continue to point out that you have exactly zero understanding of race in America.  The simple fact of the matter is that they are fucking themselves even with all the preferences they have been given for 50 years.  Stop and frisk has disproportionately saved the lives of young Negro males.
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What a mess.




The mess is your lack of knowledge about race in America and the causes and effects of fatherless young Negro males
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A poem was posted about existing problems in the black community and as a result the black race itself is under unrelenting attack in this topic, there's no getting around that. What an ungodly mess, the public response strongly underlines to how big the problem is, even here.




The attack is because you do not understand the problem.  It is not persecution of young Negro males by the authorities.  It is fatherlessness and the violence that young Negro males visit upon each other.  Not all of us are ignorant.  You are the problem, you and all the other excuse makers.
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Lynnch I like how you think, keep the spirit.




Too bad he can't make an effective argument.  Neither can you.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] * 2
    #18857825 - 09/18/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yea it seems blacks have developed a victim mentality in which personal responsibility no longer exists and they can just blame others for all there problems. There is no more systematic racism its gone and they have nothing to blame but themselves now.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch]
    #18857828 - 09/18/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
The funny part about this thread is that every post you guys make just goes on to repeatedly prove my point- You lack empathy and understanding for other people's situations, and in fact work very hard to avoid seeing it from their perspective. You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.

How about you drop all the bullshit racial blame you've repeated to yourselves and say it with me:
  It is so sad that a 5 year old is afraid of the police just because of the color of his skin.




It isn't because of the color of his skin.  It is because he has shitty parents.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch]
    #18857830 - 09/18/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
"Their fault not mine"

It's more complicated than that.




How is the rate of out of wedlock births in the Negro community whitey's fault in any way at all?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #18857831 - 09/18/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Lynnch said:
What I see is that we're barely one generation out from the time where the racists were forced, kicking and screaming, to treat people of color with equality. It's not difficult to understand that remnants of systemic racism still exist today.




Actually it was 50 years ago and there is no systemic racism.




That's not quite true. The Federal and State governments practice racism all the time.

Affirmative action.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18857833 - 09/18/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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VivaLaMushie said:
That 5 year old is afraid of the cops because his FAMILY taught him to be thatcway



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qman said:
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Lynnch said:
The funny part about this thread is that every post you guys make just goes on to repeatedly prove my point- You lack empathy and understanding for other people's situations, and in fact work very hard to avoid seeing it from their perspective. You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.

How about you drop all the bullshit racial blame you've repeated to yourselves and say it with me:
  It is so sad that a 5 year old is afraid of the police just because of the color of his skin.





It is sad that a 5 year old was been TAUGHT to be afraid of the police because of the color of his skin.



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zappaisgod said:
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Lynnch said:
The funny part about this thread is that every post you guys make just goes on to repeatedly prove my point- You lack empathy and understanding for other people's situations, and in fact work very hard to avoid seeing it from their perspective. You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.

How about you drop all the bullshit racial blame you've repeated to yourselves and say it with me:
  It is so sad that a 5 year old is afraid of the police just because of the color of his skin.




It isn't because of the color of his skin.  It is because he has shitty parents.




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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Lynnch]
    #18857834 - 09/18/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
You seem incapable of speaking about this subject in a way other than to defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself.





What? I'm not to blame for any issues in black youth culture, so I'm not sure what you mean by "defensively shift any possible blame off of yourself." :lol:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18857841 - 09/18/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

what do you say to the fact that a large cause of that fatherlessness is due to the disproportionate incarceration rates of black males in the USofA, and that the leading cause of incarceration for black males are non-violent drug offenses?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #18857845 - 09/18/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The perpetuation of ignorance in any society/culture/community/neighborhood be it any race is part of (if not the main problem) the problem(s). Parents/those who raise/teach the children at home are to blame or praise for the child. BUT after a certain point the child makes its own decisions and can only be blamed themselves for any action(s) that are negative or positive.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18857846 - 09/18/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
what do you say to the fact that a large cause of that fatherlessness is due to the disproportionate incarceration rates of black males in the USofA, and that the leading cause of incarceration for black males are non-violent drug offenses?



The war on drugs is fucked for sure but it dosen't help that the black community sometimes advocates criminal activity blacks commit a higher proportion of crimes than other races in the US. Until there community embraces personal responsibility they will continue to have issues.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18857850 - 09/18/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No but your assumedly white and thus oppress black people.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18857852 - 09/18/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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qman said:
It is sad that a 5 year old was been TAUGHT to be afraid of the police because of the color of his skin.



And why pray tell would a family teach their child to be afraid of the police? Could it have anything to do with how they and their parents were treated by police?

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VivaLaMushie said:
Why should I care about other peoples lives? I'm trying to live my own I'm trying to get by. Everyone should fend for themselves, why do we have to hold their hands and apologize because others treat them like shit? We all get treated like crap by others. Get over it.



No. I believe in a better world. Just because you don't give a fuck doesn't mean I have to stop caring.

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When the subject is how the young male Negro has been made a victim of unfair scrutiny I will vehemently and fervently deny that it is the least bit unfair and will continue to point out that you have exactly zero understanding of race in America.  The simple fact of the matter is that they are fucking themselves even with all the preferences they have been given for 50 years.  Stop and frisk has disproportionately saved the lives of young Negro males.



Said the white male business owner.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18857865 - 09/18/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
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shivas.wisdom said:
what do you say to the fact that a large cause of that fatherlessness is due to the disproportionate incarceration rates of black males in the USofA, and that the leading cause of incarceration for black males are non-violent drug offenses?



The war on drugs is fucked for sure but it dosen't help that the black community sometimes advocates criminal activity blacks commit a higher proportion of crimes than other races in the US. Until there community embraces personal responsibility they will continue to have issues.



definitely that is part of a solution

i'm just pointing out that the issue has systemic roots as well
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/64#sthash.ryCTOTt4.dpbs


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18857884 - 09/18/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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shivas.wisdom said:
what do you say to the fact that a large cause of that fatherlessness is due to the disproportionate incarceration rates of black males in the USofA, and that the leading cause of incarceration for black males are non-violent drug offenses?




I don't think you have that quite right.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate#US_racial_demographics

In 2009 there were 840,000 Negro males in prison.  There is a shit ton more single mother Negro families than that.  Further I do not believe that most of the incarcerated Negroes are there for drug offenses and many of the actual convictions are the result of plea bargains that actually do not account for anywhere near the number of crimes actually committed.


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