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Psilosopherr
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
#18856656 - 09/18/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
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rbalzer said: You can't even joke with them. One joke when they're in a bad mood and they go dick mode.
I love this website to death, but that shit annoys me. Just leave me be. I never openly break rules when I know the rules.
Instead of just explaining what rule I broke and saying don't do it again, which I would gladly oblige to, they just go dick mode.
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?
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Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"
Quote: rbalzer said:
Quote: fee said: You can OD on suboxone
Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..
sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.
Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?
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Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action 08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points) 3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine. As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.
Please observe the rules in the future. Thanks.
Seems pretty clear to me. P.S - http://www.erowid.org/
that infraction is not what I'm referring to at all by the way. thats a separate deal. While i do think it's dumb that I'm not allowed to ask that question, I get why, and all that. Its just annoying
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it's annoying because people die
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism] 1
#18856678 - 09/18/13 03:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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There are drug forums that allow those questions, and have even answered them all ready. You could simply look there (google) and find your answer without rustling anyone's jimmies.
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Apollyphelion
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I'm somewhat sick of mods myself. I think a developer should concentrate on making the base game fun instead of having to unofficially alter it to hell just to make it playable.
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Psilosopherr
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Apollyphelion said: I'm somewhat sick of mods myself. I think a developer should concentrate on making the base game fun instead of having to unofficially alter it to hell just to make it playable.

yeah, like how skyrim had very little content until it was modded, and stuffed with DLC (all of which belonged in the original game)
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If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: AstroCat]
#18856782 - 09/18/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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AstroCat said: If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.
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I have a distaste towards authority in general. I think most of us probably share this sentiment.
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Depends on the authority for me
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Mods here are just like anyone else in real life that have "power" over anyone. They play favorites, do the same thing others get banned for. Just gotta deal with it. There are plenty of other forums on the net, and you will see many things on other forums about the mods here. I just laugh when i get banned and go back to real life for awhile. Now, will i get banned for this post? probably.
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: B_BOY]
#18857094 - 09/18/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.
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Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game. The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD. Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.
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Gilgamesh18 said: As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.
Exactly. We have it good here.
I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)
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Gilgamesh18
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ModestMouse said:
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Gilgamesh18 said: As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.
Exactly. We have it good here.
I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)
Yea thats why its fun to post here and pretty much every topic is discussed so why would you go to another forum were you could get banned for some really petty bullshit.
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The mods are just prick teases dont pop a boner theres no point
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Sheekle]
#18857129 - 09/18/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: The mods are just prick teases dont pop a boner theres no point
Your a prick tease sheekle
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ModestMouse said:
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Gilgamesh18 said: As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.
Exactly. We have it good here.
I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)


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Magicman69
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Rbalzer u should have came to me with your bupe questions. I don't think ANYONE has EVER died from Suboxone alone. Its always been a benzo/alcohol/ sedative and suboxone combo.
Edited by Magicman69 (09/18/13 09:49 AM)
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: AstroCat]
#18857276 - 09/18/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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AstroCat said: If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.

As you can see OP, the mods here are very mild-tempered.
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism] 2
#18857320 - 09/18/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Don't you get a PM of the infraction?
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Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"
Quote: rbalzer said:
Quote: fee said: You can OD on suboxone
Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..
sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.
Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?
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Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action 08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points) 3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine. As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.
Please observe the rules in the future. Thanks.
Seems pretty clear to me. P.S - http://www.erowid.org/
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Shroomism said: it's annoying because people die
Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here. And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well. That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.
My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!
Take a look at the question again. "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)
This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?" (aka advice)
This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?" (aka request for scientific data)
And LD50 is scientific data which we ARE allowed to discuss.
I have seen discussions about LD50 in which moderators took part. And I don't think it's right that OP should be punished, simply because he doesn't know the correct terminology and John decided to interpret the question in a completely illogical manner.
That being said-- you can't always extrapolate human LD50 from animal data, as the numbers are sometimes quite different.... but I really don't trust the given LD50 for rats as applied to humans, as it seems way too high. I'm also seeing a huge discrepancy between two different sources, and with a quick read, I could not spot why this might be. For IV buprenorphine, I'm getting numbers ranging from 120 mg/kg (way high) to 26 mg/kg (more reasonable, but still way higher than I would expect)
http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/65/1/107.long
http://www.old.health.gov.il/units/pharmacy/trufot/alonim/702.pdf
Anyway, since he was clearly asking for a "lethal dosage" (scientific data) and not "recreational dosage" I very much disagree that this should be considered dosage advice and I think it is wrong that he was given an infraction for this.

The only way I could see his asking about the "lethal dose" as "dosage advice" is if he made a thread that same day titled "Suicidally depressed-- looking for a way out." Then, it wouldn't be a massive logical leap to call a question about lethal dosage "looking for dosage advice." 
Regarding dosage advice in general, I think that responsible, accurate dosage advice by experienced members could be helpful, and in some situations even potentially save lives. It would be better than a noob just guessing, or perhaps misinterpreting erowid's data. For example, thinking they (as an opiate naive person) really want to get a feel for what this oxycodone stuff is all about, so maybe it's best to go with erowid's "heavy" dosage....
That being said, IMHO that is a separate issue, and I think John was wrong to consider this a request for dosage advice. It was clearly not. Even if you argue that he was asking to get a better idea of dosage, that is still not the same as dosage advice. Learning the maximum you might be able to take (or feed a rat) without death occurring is not sufficient data upon which to base a proper, safe, recreational dosage. Even the most retarded noob in the history of the shroomery should be able to grasp that.
I really don't know what the hell John was thinking on this one. But if I were OP, I'd have been pissed about it, too.
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Edited by CidneyIndole (09/18/13 10:20 AM)
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