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"Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. * 2
    #18856895 - 09/18/13 06:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a poem I found on YouTube dealing with race and law enforcement. I'm going to post it here and put it up for discussion. Lets hope good will come of it.

Guys, please keep it civil and respectful.







Performed during the semifinals of the 2013 National Poetry Slam for Da Poetry Lounge.

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Javon Johnson - Cuz He's Black


"cuz he's black & poor
he's disappeared
the name waz lost"
-Ntozake Shange


So I'm driving down the street with
my 4-year-old nephew.
He, knocking back a juice
box, me, a Snapple, today y'all
we are doing manly shit. I love
watching the way his mind works.
He asks a million questions.
Uncle, why is the sky blue?
Uncle, how do cars go?
Uncle, why don't dogs talk?
Uncle, uncle, uncle, he asks,
uncle, uncle, uncle, he asks
uncle uncle uncle
as if his voice box is
a warped record. I try my best
to answer every question, I do.
I say it's because the way
the sun lights up the outer space.
It's because engines
make the wheels go.
It's because their minds aren't
quite like ours. I say Yes.
No. No. Yes. No. Yes. No. I don't know.
Who knows? Maybe. We laugh.
He smiles at me, looks out the window,
spots a cop car, drops his seat
and says,
"Oh man, Uncle, 5-0, we gotta hide."
I'll be honest. I'm not happy
with the way we raise our Black boys.
Don't like the fact that
he learned to hide
from the cops before
he knew how to read.
Angrier that his survival
depends more on
his ability to deal
with the "authorities"
than it does his own literacy.
"Get up," I yell at him. "In this car, in this family,
we are not afraid
of the law."
I wonder if he can hear
the uncertainty in my voice.
Is today the day he learns
that uncle is willing to lie to him,
that I am more human
than hero?
We both know the truth
is far more complex than
do not hide. We both know too many
Black boys who disappeared.
Names lost.
Know too many Trayvon Martins
Oscar Grants
and Abner Louimas, know too many
Sean Bells, and Amadou Diallos
Know too well that we are
the hard-boiled sons of Emmett Till.
Still, we both know
it's not about whether or not
the shooter is racist,
it's about how poor Black boys
are treated as problems
well before we are treated as people.
Black boys in this country
cannot afford
to play cops and robbers
if we're always considered the latter,
don't have the luxury
of playing war
when we're already in one.
Where I'm from,
seeing cop cars drive
down the street feels a lot
like low-flying planes in New York
City. Where I'm from, routine traffic
stops are more like mine
fields, any wrong move
could very well mean your life.
And how do I look my nephew in his apple face
and tell him to be strong when we both know
black boys are murdered every day, simply
for standing up for themselves? I take him
by the hand, I say
be strong. I say be smart. Be kind, and polite.
Know your laws. Be aware of
how quickly your hands move
to pocket for wallet or ID,
be more aware of how quickly
the officer's hand moves to holster, for gun.
Be Black. Be a boy and have fun,
because this world will force you to
become a man much quicker
than you need to.
"Uncle," he asks, "what happens
if the cop is really mean?"
And, it scares me to
know that he, like
so many Black boys,
is getting ready for a war
I can't prepare him for.




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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 3
    #18856926 - 09/18/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That was touching. That was the truth


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Patlal] * 12
    #18856933 - 09/18/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Had me until the Trayvon Martin part, then :ilold: hard. Boo hoo poor young black males who attack people shouldn't be looked at as a problem! Oh wait.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Everlong] * 9
    #18857016 - 09/18/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18857039 - 09/18/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.



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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18857047 - 09/18/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.




That. Until that truth is addressed blacks are their own worst enemies.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18857096 - 09/18/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.



No they should be afraid of racist whites trying to renslave them


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 1
    #18857103 - 09/18/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

blacks used to have slaves also, but i am sure you wouldn't know that considering you bias opinion on white people.

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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: B_BOY]
    #18857106 - 09/18/13 08:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

B_BOY said:
blacks used to have slaves also, but i am sure you wouldn't know that considering you bias opinion on white people.

:themoreyouknow:



False it was white corruption that caused this Africa was a UTOPIA before the white man came and raped the land


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante]
    #18857114 - 09/18/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:

Guys, please keep it civil and respectful.





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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18857116 - 09/18/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
That was touching. That was the truth



Another foreigner opining on the US race situation.

Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.



Indeed they should.

Another far fetched aspect of that poem was that there was a Negro child with an involved father uncle.  Not exactly the most common situation.

They persist in externalizing the causes of Negro crime and poverty when they would best be served by observing what they see in the mirror.  The culture of dis and the permanent chip on the shoulder is not working out real well for them.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Gilgamesh18] * 1
    #18857131 - 09/18/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I liked it.
Thanks for posting Wiccan :heart:


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18857146 - 09/18/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

the poem was pretty good




Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.




That. Until that truth is addressed blacks are their own worst enemies.




how so? because of the "gang banger" attitude? where did they learn this? rap? media? who pays for whats shown on the screen?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] * 4
    #18857152 - 09/18/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I stopped reading once I saw Trayvons name

IDK.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18857158 - 09/18/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

hidenseek1 said:
the poem was pretty good




Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

qman said:
Shouldn't black males be in more fear of other black males than of cops?  Statistically speaking, they should fear people of their own culture much more than of law enforcement.  The poem never addressed that truth.




That. Until that truth is addressed blacks are their own worst enemies.




how so? because of the "gang banger" attitude? where did they learn this? rap? media? who pays for whats shown on the screen?




So Hollywood creates the senseless violence in the black culture?  That assertion is very insulting, to imply that watching something on a screen can influence a culture into murdering their own people, what are they?  Mindless robots in your opinion?


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: qman]
    #18857187 - 09/18/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if you want to emulate something, youll probably want to emulate something of your own heritage, and most black people on tv are badd ass dope selling, hoe banging, money flashing guys, belonging to some sorta gang or clique




EDIT: i dont think that black people are mindless robots, but the tv is there to spread propaganda, thats what it was invented for, so i would say that most people that watch tv regularly are, me included

i dont even get how its insulting, at least more or less than any reason for a culture killing eachother,

also
Quote:

That assertion is very insulting, to imply that watching something on a screen can influence a culture into murdering their own people


i find kinda ironic, because hitler mass produced tv's to put into every pub/bar to brainwash people, again back to these things were invented to influence people watching

the only thing i find insulting is i managed to turn yet another thread into racist argument, kinda why i decided to edit this post instead of making a new post

the point i was trying to make with my original post is that the gang attitude gets alot of attention in media especially on music video channels, and its not black people who run those channels, its some rich guy, and a good way to stay rich is having poor people fighting amongst themselves






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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: Asante] * 2
    #18857199 - 09/18/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Although the delivery made it heartfelt and alive, the speech begs the question of what oppression the speaker has felt. Also, why he is unable to prepare his young nephew for "the war" and what benefit is created by classifying it at such? Instead of enlightening him with the knowledge that law enforcements power ends when citizens are abiding within the law. Instead of instilling values on how to prepare for the inevitable situation dealing with law enforcement of any type, the speaker is focusing on popularizing the lesser of the wars African Americans face today in the US.


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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18857203 - 09/18/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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SoreSpore said:
Although the delivery made it heartfelt and alive, the speech begs the question of what oppression the speaker has felt. Also, why he is unable to prepare his young nephew for "the war" and what benefit is created by classifying it at such? Instead of enlightening him with the knowledge that law enforcements power ends when citizens are abiding within the law. Instead of instilling values on how to prepare for the inevitable situation dealing with law enforcement of any type, the speaker is focusing on popularizing the lesser of the wars African Americans face today in the US.



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Re: "Cuz he's black" -- A poem I heard that moved me and that I'd like to share with The Pub. [Re: VivaLaMushie] * 5
    #18857215 - 09/18/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Everlong, qman, luvdemshrooms, qman, Gilgamesh18, zappaisgod, VivaLaMushie said:
I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.




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    #18857221 - 09/18/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Lynnch said:
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Everlong, qman, luvdemshrooms, qman, Gilgamesh18, zappaisgod, VivaLaMushie said:
I'm white and privileged so I don't even attempt to understand what it's like to be a person of a different race.






I'm not privileged I come from a solid middle class area


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