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OfflinePsilosopherr
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Pretty sick of mods
    #18856466 - 09/18/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can't even joke with them. One joke when they're in a bad mood and they go dick mode.

I love this website to death, but that shit annoys me. Just leave me be. I never openly break rules when I know the rules.

Instead of just explaining what rule I broke and saying don't do it again, which I would gladly oblige to, they just go dick mode.

I'm sure it's not all of you so I apologize for my blanket generalizations.

Rant over. :yesnod:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18856477 - 09/18/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ganjfather]
    #18856488 - 09/18/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A mod has never been a dick to me. :shrug:

If your jokes have potential to offend, then that is the problem.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ganjfather] * 9
    #18856489 - 09/18/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This must be the only site you post on if you think mods here are dicks.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Konyap]
    #18856497 - 09/18/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
This must be the only site you post on if you think mods here are dicks.




:whathesaid:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18856529 - 09/18/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The mods are pretty sick of you, OP. :crankey:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 4
    #18856536 - 09/18/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

rbalzer said:
You can't even joke with them. One joke when they're in a bad mood and they go dick mode.

I love this website to death, but that shit annoys me. Just leave me be. I never openly break rules when I know the rules.

Instead of just explaining what rule I broke and saying don't do it again, which I would gladly oblige to, they just go dick mode.





Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

Quote:


Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

    Quote:
    rbalzer said:

        Quote:
        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





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Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Everlong]
    #18856540 - 09/18/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mods here are decent and I can usually gauge a response out of them, mods on other sites though are power hungry dickheads with too much time on their hands to enforce their white knight and orwellian policies. I hate them so much!


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18856543 - 09/18/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
Pretty



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Konyap] * 6
    #18856545 - 09/18/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe we have the best community anyone could ask for


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Legend] * 5
    #18856547 - 09/18/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe we have the best community anyone could ask for


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #18856551 - 09/18/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I could probably ask for a better community.

May not receive it though.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Set]
    #18856556 - 09/18/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

RP, you should let the mods have it! Right out how you really feel; they won't ban your here because a mod already posted in the thread. Get 'em tiger!


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18856559 - 09/18/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They were made for constructive criticism.

I don't have anything for them to have though, I've already sold my soul to this site


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Legend] * 1
    #18856565 - 09/18/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Legend said:
I believe we have the best community anyone could ask for




I've met my best friends, IRL, from Shroomery Gatherings.

Not because I don't have a ton of friends anyway, but because the people I've met on this site happen to be the coolest people on Earth.

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: smack]
    #18856569 - 09/18/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if u didnt get a pm or a temp ban for this threat i wouldent be bitching. you should try that on other thread sights and see what happens.

u did something wrong and caught a mod on her period. get over it no big deal

live and let live

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Legend]
    #18856574 - 09/18/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Legend said:
I've already sold my sold to this site



Have you been drinking tonight?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
    #18856577 - 09/18/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



Quote:


Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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seems clear cut to me....
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SoreSpore]
    #18856584 - 09/18/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoreSpore said:
Quote:

Legend said:
I've already sold my sold to this site



Have you been drinking tonight?




Not even lol, just dumb.

:facepalm:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Legend]
    #18856646 - 09/18/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is the only forum I post on, sounds like I am spoiled.

Perhaps I just happen to break a lot of rules accidentally.





Maybe I shouldn't have posted this...but what forum should i go to to see the biggest dickhead mods? suggestions?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
    #18856656 - 09/18/13 03:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
You can't even joke with them. One joke when they're in a bad mood and they go dick mode.

I love this website to death, but that shit annoys me. Just leave me be. I never openly break rules when I know the rules.

Instead of just explaining what rule I broke and saying don't do it again, which I would gladly oblige to, they just go dick mode.





Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

Quote:


Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

    Quote:
    rbalzer said:

        Quote:
        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





Quote:


Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
P.S - http://www.erowid.org/



that infraction is not what I'm referring to at all by the way. thats a separate deal. While i do think it's dumb that I'm not allowed to ask that question, I get why, and all that. Its just annoying


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #18856676 - 09/18/13 03:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it's annoying because people die


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #18856678 - 09/18/13 03:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There are drug forums that allow those questions, and have even answered them all ready. You could simply look there (google) and find your answer without rustling anyone's jimmies.

:jimmies:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18856742 - 09/18/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm somewhat sick of mods myself.
I think a developer should concentrate on making the base game fun
instead of having to unofficially alter it to hell just to make it playable.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #18856756 - 09/18/13 05:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
I'm somewhat sick of mods myself.
I think a developer should concentrate on making the base game fun
instead of having to unofficially alter it to hell just to make it playable.



:rofl:

yeah, like how skyrim had very little content until it was modded, and stuffed with DLC (all of which belonged in the original game)


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 7
    #18856763 - 09/18/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: AstroCat]
    #18856782 - 09/18/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

AstroCat said:
If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18857078 - 09/18/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a distaste towards authority in general. I think most of us probably share this sentiment.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18857079 - 09/18/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the authority for me


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #18857091 - 09/18/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mods here are just like anyone else in real life that have "power" over anyone. They play favorites, do the same thing others get banned for. Just gotta deal with it. There are plenty of other forums on the net, and you will see many things on other forums about the mods here. I just laugh when i get banned and go back to real life for awhile.  Now, will i get banned for this post? probably.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: B_BOY]
    #18857094 - 09/18/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18857095 - 09/18/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18857107 - 09/18/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.



Exactly. We have it good here.

I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18857121 - 09/18/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.



Exactly. We have it good here.

I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)



Yea thats why its fun to post here and pretty much every topic is discussed so why would you go to another forum were you could get banned for some really petty bullshit.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18857126 - 09/18/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The mods are just prick teases dont pop a boner theres no point


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Sheekle]
    #18857129 - 09/18/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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The mods are just prick teases dont pop a boner theres no point



Your a prick tease sheekle :sad:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18857143 - 09/18/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

ModestMouse said:
Quote:

Gilgamesh18 said:
As far as rules go this website is very lenient good staff. Most forums are run like a police state alot of shit that happens here literally and figurativly would be permabanned on many other forums.



Exactly. We have it good here.

I can literally contribute nothing but posting gifs and not get banned (I've basically been doing that since I joined)



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18857241 - 09/18/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Rbalzer u should have came to me with your bupe questions. I don't think ANYONE has EVER died from Suboxone alone. Its always been a benzo/alcohol/ sedative and suboxone combo.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: AstroCat]
    #18857276 - 09/18/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

AstroCat said:
If i saw that BigBangTheory .gif I'd ban you on the spot. probably go with 50 days. maybe ask for a written apology, idk, depends on my mood.




:congrats:

As you can see OP, the mods here are very mild-tempered. :sadyes:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #18857320 - 09/18/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

Quote:


Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

    Quote:
    rbalzer said:

        Quote:
        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





Quote:


Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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Quote:

Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die









Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.



My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!


Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)


This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)


This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)



And LD50 is scientific data which we ARE allowed to discuss



I have seen discussions about LD50 in which moderators took part. And I don't think it's right that OP should be punished, simply because he doesn't know the correct terminology and John decided to interpret the question in a completely illogical manner.



That being said-- you can't always extrapolate human LD50 from animal data, as the numbers are sometimes quite different....  but I really don't trust the given LD50 for rats as applied to humans, as it seems way too high.  I'm also seeing  a huge discrepancy between two different sources, and with a quick read, I could not spot why this might be. For IV buprenorphine, I'm getting numbers ranging from 120 mg/kg  (way high) to 26 mg/kg (more reasonable, but still way higher than I would expect)


http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/65/1/107.long

http://www.old.health.gov.il/units/pharmacy/trufot/alonim/702.pdf



Anyway, since he was clearly asking for a "lethal dosage" (scientific data) and not "recreational dosage" I very much disagree that this should be considered dosage advice and I think it is wrong that he was given an infraction for this.

:grrr:



The only way I could see his asking about the "lethal dose" as "dosage advice" is if he made a thread that same day titled "Suicidally depressed-- looking for a way out."  Then, it wouldn't be a massive logical leap to call a question about lethal dosage "looking for dosage advice."  :rolleyes:





Regarding dosage advice in general, I think that responsible, accurate dosage advice by experienced members could be helpful, and in some situations even potentially save lives. It would be better than a noob just guessing, or perhaps misinterpreting erowid's data. For example, thinking they (as an opiate naive person) really want to get a feel for what this oxycodone stuff is all about, so maybe it's best to go with erowid's "heavy" dosage....


That being said, IMHO that is a separate issue, and I think John was wrong to consider this a request for dosage advice. It was clearly not. Even if you argue that he was asking to get a better idea of dosage, that is still not the same as dosage advice. Learning the maximum you might be able to take (or feed a rat) without death occurring is not sufficient data upon which to base a proper, safe, recreational dosage. Even the most retarded noob in the history of the shroomery should be able to grasp that.


I really don't know what the hell John was thinking on this one. But if I were OP, I'd have been pissed about  it, too.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18857459 - 09/18/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I really don't agree with a lot of the rules in ODD, though I understand why they are there.  I have seen people post bad information in ODD or the pub that could have potentially killed someone.  If people ask dosage information I will try to answer them if I know it, and if I can't I will try to find it.  Harm reduction is more important to me than the rules on here.


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    #18857468 - 09/18/13 11:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18857547 - 09/18/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had a posted edited and given a warning because I said 2mg/KG of body weight has been shown in studies to eliminate opiate WD symptoms.


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    #18857611 - 09/18/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

this website sucks its full of rich kids.


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    #18857616 - 09/18/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this website sucks its full of rich kids.




Says the rich kid.

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    #18857634 - 09/18/13 11:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I said "stop being such a jerk ass " to a dude on a fitness forum (another website) and I was banned from visiting the forums for an entire month.

I was told if I was mean, again id be banned from the entire site.

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    #18857679 - 09/18/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

UnholyChild666 said:
this website sucks its full of rich kids.




Says the rich kid.

Hypocrite.



you like having sex with blacks it only get worse from here, how can you say I'm rich when you know i'm poor yet admitting to me beinf poor at the same time.


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UnholyChild666 said:
Quote:

Everlong said:
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UnholyChild666 said:
this website sucks its full of rich kids.




Says the rich kid.

Hypocrite.



you like having sex with blacks it only get worse from here, how can you say I'm rich when you know i'm poor yet admitting to me beinf poor at the same time.



What's wrong with having sex with blacks?

I can say you are rich because I know you are rich, you aren't fooling anyone with your charade.

It must be nice to be so rich.


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UnholyChild666 said:
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Everlong said:
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UnholyChild666 said:
this website sucks its full of rich kids.




Says the rich kid.

Hypocrite.



you like having sex with blacks it only get worse from here, how can you say I'm rich when you know i'm poor yet admitting to me beinf poor at the same time.



What's wrong with having sex with blacks?

I can say you are rich because I know you are rich, you aren't fooling anyone with your charade.

It must be nice to be so rich.




It's illegal to have sex with apes, I'm God pussy Fuck off I rape I murder.


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    #18857760 - 09/18/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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CidneyIndole said:
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Shroomism said:
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

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Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

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        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





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08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
P.S - http://www.erowid.org/







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Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die









Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.



My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!


Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)


This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)


This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)



And LD50 is scientific data which we ARE allowed to discuss



I have seen discussions about LD50 in which moderators took part. And I don't think it's right that OP should be punished, simply because he doesn't know the correct terminology and John decided to interpret the question in a completely illogical manner.



That being said-- you can't always extrapolate human LD50 from animal data, as the numbers are sometimes quite different....  but I really don't trust the given LD50 for rats as applied to humans, as it seems way too high.  I'm also seeing  a huge discrepancy between two different sources, and with a quick read, I could not spot why this might be. For IV buprenorphine, I'm getting numbers ranging from 120 mg/kg  (way high) to 26 mg/kg (more reasonable, but still way higher than I would expect)


http://toxsci.oxfordjournals.org/content/65/1/107.long

http://www.old.health.gov.il/units/pharmacy/trufot/alonim/702.pdf



Anyway, since he was clearly asking for a "lethal dosage" (scientific data) and not "recreational dosage" I very much disagree that this should be considered dosage advice and I think it is wrong that he was given an infraction for this.

:grrr:



The only way I could see his asking about the "lethal dose" as "dosage advice" is if he made a thread that same day titled "Suicidally depressed-- looking for a way out."  Then, it wouldn't be a massive logical leap to call a question about lethal dosage "looking for dosage advice."  :rolleyes:





Regarding dosage advice in general, I think that responsible, accurate dosage advice by experienced members could be helpful, and in some situations even potentially save lives. It would be better than a noob just guessing, or perhaps misinterpreting erowid's data. For example, thinking they (as an opiate naive person) really want to get a feel for what this oxycodone stuff is all about, so maybe it's best to go with erowid's "heavy" dosage....


That being said, IMHO that is a separate issue, and I think John was wrong to consider this a request for dosage advice. It was clearly not. Even if you argue that he was asking to get a better idea of dosage, that is still not the same as dosage advice. Learning the maximum you might be able to take (or feed a rat) without death occurring is not sufficient data upon which to base a proper, safe, recreational dosage. Even the most retarded noob in the history of the shroomery should be able to grasp that.


I really don't know what the hell John was thinking on this one. But if I were OP, I'd have been pissed about  it, too.



Makes me feel alot less crazy/biased that someone finally sided with me.

If the mod had simply said "edit your question out," I would have done it. Handing out a 3 day ban for asking a question (was trying to make it a ? within the rules too!!!) with no chance for me to right the wrong, just wasn't cool.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #18857766 - 09/18/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The mods here kick ass.

If people dont like the mods then why the hell do they keep coming back?


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fee]
    #18857780 - 09/18/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

fee said:
The mods here kick ass.

If people dont like the mods then why the hell do they keep coming back?


If I go to a town and the cops are constantly harassing me, I don't stay there and Bitch to everyone in town and keep getting harassed. I grab all my shit and get the fuck out of town.



The cops in this town do harass me whenever they get a chance. This doesn't mean I'm gonna leave my home town on a whim. (who wants to do all the work associated with moving just because of cops? they're gonnna be dicks in the new town anyway :lol:)

I keep coming back here because this is my favorite internet community I've ever found. I love you guys, but the mods not so much. Its like loving the comfort of america, but hating the ignorant state of its government.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18857823 - 09/18/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Unholychild quit saying racist shit.


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    #18857853 - 09/18/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.





:sad:

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    #18857871 - 09/18/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

fapjack said:
Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.





:sad:

You should give OTD a chance, some of the most friendly people on the site post there.





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    #18857880 - 09/18/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That being said, IMHO that is a separate issue, and I think John was wrong to consider this a request for dosage advice. It was clearly not. Even if you argue that he was asking to get a better idea of dosage, that is still not the same as dosage advice. Learning the maximum you might be able to take (or feed a rat) without death occurring is not sufficient data upon which to base a proper, safe, recreational dosage. Even the most retarded noob in the history of the shroomery should be able to grasp that.


I really don't know what the hell John was thinking on this one. But if I were OP, I'd have been pissed about  it, too.




And if someone had posted that the maximum was 2 grams of whatever, when it's really 1 gram of whatever?

Or perhaps 2 grams max would be good advice for most, but not for the OP.

He asked for dosage advice. John was correct in his action.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: the mad machinest]
    #18857882 - 09/18/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No joke man.  You just have to get to know people there, everyone is pretty nice.


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    #18857901 - 09/18/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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No joke man.  You just have to get to know people there, everyone is pretty nice.



yeah been there dun that. schwas not fun. it's like that is the dungeon where all the trolls live and fuck and shit and eat..


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    #18857905 - 09/18/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Burke Dennings said:
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fapjack said:
Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.





:sad:

You should give OTD a chance, some of the most friendly people on the site post there.





:rofl:      :lolsy:




I used to post there, my favorite posters are dead or left, and everyone else has me on ignore.  Any new members try and join in on the conversation they generally get a 0 rating and get ignored.  There is no possible way that forum can get good as it loses members over the years but refuses to give anyone new a chance.  Its like Japan's aging population, but with more perverts and less robots.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #18857927 - 09/18/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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UnholyChild666 said:
Quote:

Everlong said:
Quote:

UnholyChild666 said:
this website sucks its full of rich kids.




Says the rich kid.

Hypocrite.



you like having sex with blacks it only get worse from here, how can you say I'm rich when you know i'm poor yet admitting to me beinf poor at the same time.



You're not fooling anyone dude, everyone knows that real poor people can't afford to internet.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18857928 - 09/18/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I very much understand what you're saying, and have discussed the matter in OTD.  Most of the regs there give someone a chance though; when they realize someone's a shitbird, though, then they might be a little rude.  But there are actually a few people that have registered recently that fit in quite well.

Can't speak for everyone, but I think you'd fit in fine there.  You're not a bad poster at all.


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    #18857943 - 09/18/13 01:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #18857946 - 09/18/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't fit in OTD.  I am a shitbird.

More on topic though, I also disagree with rbalzer's ban (not like it matters).  But it was still pretty dumb to risk it when you've been warned before and have google at your finger tips.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18857992 - 09/18/13 01:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

fapjack said:
Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.





:sad:

You should give OTD a chance, some of the most friendly people on the site post there.





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    #18858112 - 09/18/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #18858297 - 09/18/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hmm its difficult for me to understand how asking about LD50 is dosage advice. actually it seems to be the complete opposite. but what do i know.


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    #18858391 - 09/18/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hmm its difficult for me to understand how asking about LD50 is dosage advice. actually it seems to be the complete opposite. but what do i know.



Idk what LD50 is..

But when I did ask for the lethal dose, it was only for SAFETY INFORMATION. I feel i should be able to ask for information that could be important to my health


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858416 - 09/18/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And if the information given is wrong?

Go look it up elsewhere.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18858453 - 09/18/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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And if the information given is wrong?

Go look it up elsewhere.



I like multiple sources. And I especially like the wide variety of knowledge accessible through asking the good people of the shroomery.

I trust people here more than elsewhere on the internet; not that I believe everything people here say 100%, because there's definitely at least some tards on this site. But you can pick them out usually.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858542 - 09/18/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Am I a tard?


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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fee]
    #18858544 - 09/18/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Am I a tard?



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fee]
    #18858558 - 09/18/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858560 - 09/18/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i also would not ask for lethal doses (LD50) on a forum. if erowid didn't have it, i can understand. but i also don't really know why i would need to know the lethal dose of something considering i don't really push doses that far anyway.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality]
    #18858576 - 09/18/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i also would not ask for lethal doses (LD50) on a forum. if erowid didn't have it, i can understand. but i also don't really know why i would need to know the lethal dose of something considering i don't really push doses that far anyway.



what if it happened to be close to the normal doses, like datura?

why risk it?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality]
    #18858578 - 09/18/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ClockCode]
    #18858583 - 09/18/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the mad machinest said:
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fee said:
Am I a tard?



we-tar-Ted



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feetard





Good I thought I was but need reinsurance.


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858626 - 09/18/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
And if the information given is wrong?

Go look it up elsewhere.



I like multiple sources. And I especially like the wide variety of knowledge accessible through asking the good people of the shroomery.

I trust people here more than elsewhere on the internet; not that I believe everything people here say 100%, because there's definitely at least some tards on this site. But you can pick them out usually.




The answer could well be backed up by a reference from a trustworthy source. It's a good thing to keep in mind though that the LD50 is what will kill half the population, some would have died from smaller doses. In any case, I don't think that asking for or discussing this information is the same thing as asking for or giving personal dosage advice since the "advice" component is not present. As far as I knew there is no blanket ban on discussing dosage.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18858682 - 09/18/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
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rbalzer said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
And if the information given is wrong?

Go look it up elsewhere.



I like multiple sources. And I especially like the wide variety of knowledge accessible through asking the good people of the shroomery.

I trust people here more than elsewhere on the internet; not that I believe everything people here say 100%, because there's definitely at least some tards on this site. But you can pick them out usually.




The answer could well be backed up by a reference from a trustworthy source. It's a good thing to keep in mind though that the LD50 is what will kill half the population, some would have died from smaller doses. In any case, I don't think that asking for or discussing this information is the same thing as asking for or giving personal dosage advice since the "advice" component is not present. As far as I knew there is no blanket ban on discussing dosage.



ohhhh, so LD50 means lethal dose for 50%? God that term was confusing me. thank you. why does everyybodyy seem to say LD50? whats the point?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858760 - 09/18/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not totally sure but it seems to be the standard for discussing toxicity. LD1 tells you what will kill 1% of the population, so that would give you a better ballpark idea of a minimum lethal dose. LD0.1 would be even better. Reference books like the Merck Index are likely to tell you only the LD50 though, for example XXX mg/Kg body weight in rats, mice or whatever. Lab animal tests don't exactly tell you what it will be in humans but obviously there are ethical problems with giving drugs to humans until they die. Another consideration is the possibility that doses below the lethal threshold will cause other permanent damage to the body.

It's hard to extrapolate from the LD50 in some lab animal what will be a safe dose for an individual to take, which I guess is why people are touchy about discussing it. As far as I knew it wasn't against the rules here though, but I could be wrong.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #18858783 - 09/18/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
Its like getting mad at a ref in a football game.  The rules are the thing that is kind of retarded, but without them this place would be like OTD.  Who the fuck wants to post in OTD except for alcoholics that beat their children for not taking out the trash.





:sad:

You should give OTD a chance, some of the most friendly people on the site post there.



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18858802 - 09/18/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not totally sure but it seems to be the standard for discussing toxicity. LD1 tells you what will kill 1% of the population, so that would give you a better ballpark idea of a minimum lethal dose. LD0.1 would be even better. Reference books like the Merck Index are likely to tell you only the LD50 though, for example XXX mg/Kg body weight in rats, mice or whatever. Lab animal tests don't exactly tell you what it will be in humans but obviously there are ethical problems with giving drugs to humans until they die. Another consideration is the possibility that doses below the lethal threshold will cause other permanent damage to the body.

It's hard to extrapolate from the LD50 in some lab animal what will be a safe dose for an individual to take, which I guess is why people are touchy about discussing it. As far as I knew it wasn't against the rules here though, but I could be wrong.



thats silly that LD50 is standard.

I'd much rather have LD01 and LD100 So I'd know the range of lethal dosage


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858814 - 09/18/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I'm not totally sure why that is, maybe someone with more of a biology background can elaborate.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18858847 - 09/18/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i also would not ask for lethal doses (LD50) on a forum. if erowid didn't have it, i can understand. but i also don't really know why i would need to know the lethal dose of something considering i don't really push doses that far anyway.



what if it happened to be close to the normal doses, like datura?

why risk it?




The LD50 of datura varies widely as datura is a plant and the concentration of the tropane alkaloids is not a constant.  This is a bad example though, as datura isn't really a recreational drug.  Threads about it sometimes pop up, but people generally don't give dosage information about it.

Also their isn't any LD50 information for humans with any drug, with the exception of Nazi experiments.  They don't kill people, they usually use either rats or monkeys, or mice which doesn't translate into anything definitive for humans.  Its still good information to know though, as you can figure out how safe/risky it is to take a substance.  Also, this is the ONLY drug related message board I have ever posted on with the exception of the growery.  Its almost as lame of a rule as when drug-forums used to make everyone say SWIM.  Actually that rule was a lot more retarded, but still.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18860544 - 09/18/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That being said, IMHO that is a separate issue, and I think John was wrong to consider this a request for dosage advice. It was clearly not. Even if you argue that he was asking to get a better idea of dosage, that is still not the same as dosage advice. Learning the maximum you might be able to take (or feed a rat) without death occurring is not sufficient data upon which to base a proper, safe, recreational dosage. Even the most retarded noob in the history of the shroomery should be able to grasp that.


I really don't know what the hell John was thinking on this one. But if I were OP, I'd have been pissed about  it, too.




And if someone had posted that the maximum was 2 grams of whatever, when it's really 1 gram of whatever?

Or perhaps 2 grams max would be good advice for most, but not for the OP.

He asked for dosage advice. John was correct in his action.







Say  this a hundred more times, if you'd like. That won't make it any more true.  If someone had posted the wrong LD50?  As I said-- that wouldn't matter because an LD50 is not dosage advice. That's number one. Any reasonable, intelligent person will dose way, way way the fuck lower than the LD50. Orders of magnitude lower.  And an unreasonable person? They'll take whatever the fuck, regardless of what you say to them.

Second, an LD50 is a scientific measurement, not an opinion, or advice. If it's wrong, it's wrong. But because it is something established by science, and not a matter of opinion, it can be looked up and verified.


Third, even if it was wrong, and someone insufferably stupid decided to use it as a dosage guideline, that's sort of "on them" for making a stupid choice, and stupidly trusting some random member of some internet forum. But again, I really don't think that would happen.



Aside from all that, I generally think an infraction for allegedly asking / giving "dosage advice," because the member supplied or asked for a fact from scientific literature, is essentially twisting / abusing the rules.






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I had a posted edited and given a warning because I said 2mg/KG of body weight has been shown in studies to eliminate opiate WD symptoms.






Likewise, I don't think this counts as dosage advice either, if it's citing scientific literature. On the other hand, if you're talking about buprenorphine, that sounds ridiculously high, and I'd love to see the citation for that.



And I think that's another valid part of my point....  While we may have a few dimmer bulbs around here, there are also a lot of knowledgeable people. And if someone posts bullshit, eventually (usually not long) someone will be along to say  "you know what... that doesn't sound right...."


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18860589 - 09/18/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have seen way too many of mod dicks since I have joined than any one person ever needs to see.


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18860604 - 09/18/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yea i agree, its just wrong to declare LD50 discussion as dosage advice. i'd say that the mod probably does have it out for the OP.

i would do my own research on some thing like an LD50, but considering he didn't even know what an LD50 was i can understand him seeking help with his research. I personally like John as a mod, but i have seen him make pretty bad arguments so i'm sure he just didn't really understand what he was doing because after all LD50 is a dosage.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality]
    #18860668 - 09/18/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

LD50 isn't dosage advice.  A mod banned you for talking about the LD50 of a substance?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18860676 - 09/18/13 10:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't doubt it.
Have you witnessed how ineffectual and dense a considerable portion of the moderator staff is?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18860972 - 09/18/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sick of it too.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ClockCode]
    #18861006 - 09/18/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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feetard



LOLOL!!! I laughed out loud! :congrats::rimshot:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #18861092 - 09/18/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

eh:shrug: it could be worse.

we could have nazimods and yithan would be hitler:lmafo:

the pub would be called the shower.

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: kinkaku]
    #18861159 - 09/19/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I been to a worse forum. Got permabanned. I'm still sore about it. I joined there in 2008 they ban me 2011, for life. The bastards.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #18861184 - 09/19/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Stupid ass shit.

Dude asked for maximum dosage that would be fatal.

That is not scientific.

If the guy asked what is the ld50 it would have been fine. That is scientific.

First and foremost the protection of this site must be taken care off.

I say the mod is in the right.

I am curious to find out how many people have actually been mods or admins in any online community that says otherwise.

For those that say mods take sides, or have agendas. Guess what, they do. They are protecting this site, and its users from harm and possible prosecution.

If you had to deal with the same fucking idtiots that awlways push the limits of the rules, you would get lock on to those dumb asses yourselves. Every damn time they posted you would think, oh, you again.

I feel for every mod here and every admin that has to review the BS that trickles up their way from the dumb ass shit theee fucking intitled kids think they have.

A bunch of intitle little cunts around here.

If you think you can find a better community than this that go!
I bet you cant.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: 4runner]
    #18861186 - 09/19/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Who has the most problems with the mods?
The ones that don't follow the rules.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: 4runner]
    #18861187 - 09/19/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Indeed.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ShiVersblood] * 1
    #18861210 - 09/19/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dont like prisoner. He is trying to hide from a sad personal life by being on here and he knows it. Beer belly and stuff


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: AmazonianGuru]
    #18861220 - 09/19/13 12:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's hilarious.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: CidneyIndole] * 3
    #18861407 - 09/19/13 01:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die




Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.

My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!

Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)

This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)

This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)

And LD50 is scientific data which we ARE allowed to discuss





He didn't ask for LD50. He asked what is a lethal dosage. Which can VARY FROM PERSON TO PERSON.
Any douche bag could come in and say oh, 5 grams.
WHAT'S A "FATAL DOSE" FOR ME, IT MAY TAKE HALF AS MUCH TO KILL SOMEONE ELSE

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Anyway, since he was clearly asking for a "lethal dosage" (scientific data) and not "recreational dosage" I very much disagree that this should be considered dosage advice and I think it is wrong that he was given an infraction for this.




He was given a warning before, for explicitly asking about suboxone dosage. This was a 2nd offense, for virtually the exact same thing worded differently.


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The only way I could see his asking about the "lethal dose" as "dosage advice" is if he made a thread that same day titled "Suicidally depressed-- looking for a way out."  Then, it wouldn't be a massive logical leap to call a question about lethal dosage "looking for dosage advice."  :rolleyes:







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Regarding dosage advice in general, I think that responsible, accurate dosage advice by experienced members could be helpful, and in some situations even potentially save lives. It would be better than a noob just guessing, or perhaps misinterpreting erowid's data. For example, thinking they (as an opiate naive person) really want to get a feel for what this oxycodone stuff is all about, so maybe it's best to go with erowid's "heavy" dosage....




Who is to decide who these responsible experienced members are that dish out accurate dosage advice??
And what is to stop ANY troll from posting false information, and what's to stop experienced members from giving inaccurate info because DOSAGES AND TOXICITY LEVELS can vary from person to person, not to even mention tolerance.

Someone who drinks every day may be able to drink a handle of vodka in one sitting, and say no big deal.
Me personally, that would probably kill me.
You cannot responsibly give blanket dosage advice for X toxic drug that will safely apply to every person. It is dumb and irresponsible.
People have and do die from bad dosage advice. We don't want that shit on our hands, period.
Erowid is always there. And has much more accurate and scientific info on dosages than random forum members.

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
    #18861430 - 09/19/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
    #18861452 - 09/19/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agreed with your decision from the start Shroomism.  :shrug:

Common sense.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18861470 - 09/19/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't read this whole thread, but for the most part I like the mods here.

Any time I've received an infraction it was completely my fault for not following the rules.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18861486 - 09/19/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Random reply, but I've had a lot of interactions with the mods and in general they are good people's. they do this shit for free. They are people too and they don't like having to clean up bullshit. All you have to do is be respectful and stay off their radar. They are extremely lenient here, but people take them for granted and overstep the boundaries and wonder why they get banned or harassed.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #18861630 - 09/19/13 04:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is the essential problem of moderating a forum, with the mods/admins being active contributors to the debate.
The 'primes inter pares' approach artificially creates an elevated moral ground that IMO cannot be defended in the end.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: koraks]
    #18861761 - 09/19/13 06:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're right. This topic could have been handled much more maturely by a certain mod.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Shroomism]
    #18861837 - 09/19/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I understand why they don't allow dosage advice, I think most people here do.  I just think its stupid, every other message board allows it.  The people that would give out shitty dosage information probably wouldn't know the rules anyway, and as such would still give out dosage information.  I've seen it happen here before, with the no dosage rule.  Why even have an Other Drugs forum at all?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: CidneyIndole] * 1
    #18861902 - 09/19/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Say  this a hundred more times, if you'd like. That won't make it any more true.




Of course it's true. Asking a maximum dosage is asking for dosage advice. That's not debatable.

You can debate whether the rule is a good one. You can debate if it should even be a rule.

However, it is a rule. He did violate it.

John did the right thing by banning him.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862008 - 09/19/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Say  this a hundred more times, if you'd like. That won't make it any more true.




Of course it's true. Asking a maximum dosage is asking for dosage advice. That's not debatable.




It certainly is debatable. I could ask what dosages of arsenic are fatal and have no intention of taking arsenic. Obviously in that case I am seeking not advice but information. Perhaps that should be against the rules, but IMO users shouldn't be required to deduce from the "no advice" rule that it's against the rules to ask what doses can be fatal. If it's considered to be against the rules, that should be more explicit.

I've seen a number of threads where people ask what doses other people have taken of a given drug. These threads were not locked, presumably because asking for this information is not considered to be the same as asking for advice. Obviously someone could take that information into account when deciding what dose to take themselves (with potentially dangerous results) but in a literal sense no advice was asked for or given. Asking "What dose did you do" or "What dose killed someone else" just is not the same thing as asking "What dose should I do." If it is to be considered as such, the rules should say so clearly.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18862071 - 09/19/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can call it information until the cows come home. It's still advice.

Asking someone how much "they" took is not advice.

Asking how much will kill you is. Not only is it asking for advice, it's not a question that can be answered with any great certainty. There are too many variables.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862094 - 09/19/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Say  this a hundred more times, if you'd like. That won't make it any more true.




Of course it's true. Asking a maximum dosage is asking for dosage advice. That's not debatable.

You can debate whether the rule is a good one. You can debate if it should even be a rule.

However, it is a rule. He did violate it.

John did the right thing by banning him.



An LD50 is not dosage advice, and that rule was rarely enforced and was selective until recently.  I can go back and find over 10,000 threads with dosage information where no one was banned, the threads weren't locked or deleted, and a lot of the dosage information was given out by mods before they were mods.  The rule is fucking stupid.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862104 - 09/19/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You can call it information until the cows come home. It's still advice.

Asking someone how much "they" took is not advice.

Asking how much will kill you is.




You've asserted that a number of times. What exactly makes it advice again?

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it's not a question that can be answered with any great certainty. There are too many variables.




I agree with you there.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: koraks]
    #18862105 - 09/19/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is the essential problem of moderating a forum, with the mods/admins being active contributors to the debate.
The 'primes inter pares' approach artificially creates an elevated moral ground that IMO cannot be defended in the end.



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18862118 - 09/19/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Of course it's dosage advice. It's the textbook definition.

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To be consistent all the threads you mentioned should have been locked.

You may consider the rule stupid. Many, including the admins of the site, appear to disagree.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862223 - 09/19/13 09:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If memory serves they panicked after ripper died and put that rule into place.  I don't remember the specifics though, as that was a long time ago but I still think its fucking stupid.  You are free to have your own opinion, which really doesn't mean anything to me either.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862238 - 09/19/13 09:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Of course it's dosage advice. It's the textbook definition.

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Asking what doses of XYZ can be fatal is not in itself an explicit request for guidance or recommendations, any more than asking others what doses they have taken (and survived obviously.) You might argue that it's implied that personal guidance or recommendations are desired, but they are not being asked for explicitly.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18862247 - 09/19/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, we disagree.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18862248 - 09/19/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Asking if eating cyanide will kill someone isn't dosage advice either, don't bother arguing the rule won't change.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862292 - 09/19/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, we disagree.




Fair enough. IMO the rules could stand to go into a little more detail on what is and isn't acceptable if that's going to be the interpretation though.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: psi]
    #18862297 - 09/19/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thing about dosage advice is, people ask the question all the time of whether to dose in the first place at all...forget about asking how much to take, even telling someone 'do it' or 'don't do it' is like the core of the whole issue  :crazyeyes:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: g00ru]
    #18862742 - 09/19/13 12:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18862762 - 09/19/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18862766 - 09/19/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I read through that whole thread and when i go to post its locked :wtfsonic:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18862770 - 09/19/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

he shouldn't have made a big racist thread.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18862779 - 09/19/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown] * 1
    #18862784 - 09/19/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.




He locked the thread, a different person did the ban. However, leaving the ban in place unfortunately places him in the same category of people as the tool that imposed the ban.

As it's a private site, there's really no recourse.

The banner has a hard-on for the banee, which is shameful enough. That an admin would let a bullshit ban like that stand, is even more shameful.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862787 - 09/19/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It said he closed the thread


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18862788 - 09/19/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know. I was correcting my post when you made yours.

It was a proof-read fail on my part.


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    #18862790 - 09/19/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh no biggie.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18862806 - 09/19/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.




He locked the thread, a different person did the ban. However, leaving the ban in place unfortunately places him in the same category of people as the tool that imposed the ban.

As it's a private site, there's really no recourse.

The banner has a hard-on for the banee, which is shameful enough. That an admin would let a bullshit ban like that stand, is even more shameful.



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    #18862826 - 09/19/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18862832 - 09/19/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Recourse or not, it is still a great opportunity for some to show their excellent skills in manipulation.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown]
    #18862839 - 09/19/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.




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    #18862877 - 09/19/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.




You're a little slow to the draw arnt ya.




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    #18863100 - 09/19/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Recourse or not, it is still a great opportunity for some to show their excellent skills in manipulation.




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: qman]
    #18863968 - 09/19/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love how I specifically said I wasn't even talking about the suboxone deal, and that's all anyone has talked about :lol:

Not that I mind, it's just literally quite funny.





And, when I do break rules, I don't think I have ever been ridiculous about it. If a mod simply said hey, thats against the rules, I would be like oh shit, I'm sorry, let me edit the post right away.

In fact I have edited posts several times at a mods request.

I can see how some would think this means I try to push the limits of the rules, or just don't care about them. But like people say, the rules are to protect the shroomery.

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    #18864141 - 09/19/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I love how I specifically said I wasn't even talking about the suboxone deal, and that's all anyone has talked about :lol:

Not that I mind, it's just literally quite funny.





And, when I do break rules, I don't think I have ever been ridiculous about it. If a mod simply said hey, thats against the rules, I would be like oh shit, I'm sorry, let me edit the post right away.

In fact I have edited posts several times at a mods request.

I can see how some would think this means I try to push the limits of the rules, or just don't care about them. But like people say, the rules are to protect the shroomery.

And it is one of my priorities to protect the site as well. It is precious to me. This is also why I get so butthurt when those in control of it abuse their power.


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    #18864150 - 09/19/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
I love how I specifically said I wasn't even talking about the suboxone deal, and that's all anyone has talked about :lol:

Not that I mind, it's just literally quite funny.





And, when I do break rules, I don't think I have ever been ridiculous about it. If a mod simply said hey, thats against the rules, I would be like oh shit, I'm sorry, let me edit the post right away.

In fact I have edited posts several times at a mods request.

I can see how some would think this means I try to push the limits of the rules, or just don't care about them. But like people say, the rules are to protect the shroomery.

And it is one of my priorities to protect the site as well. It is precious to me. This is also why I get so butthurt when those in control of it abuse their power.


:shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead:




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If I'm willing to remove the text that broke the rule, and it was an accident in the first place, why does it matter? huh?

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rbalzer said:
I love how I specifically said I wasn't even talking about the suboxone deal, and that's all anyone has talked about :lol:

Not that I mind, it's just literally quite funny.





And, when I do break rules, I don't think I have ever been ridiculous about it. If a mod simply said hey, thats against the rules, I would be like oh shit, I'm sorry, let me edit the post right away.

In fact I have edited posts several times at a mods request.

I can see how some would think this means I try to push the limits of the rules, or just don't care about them. But like people say, the rules are to protect the shroomery.

And it is one of my priorities to protect the site as well. It is precious to me. This is also why I get so butthurt when those in control of it abuse their power.


:shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead: :shroomeryhead:




:thumbup:



If I'm willing to remove the text that broke the rule, and it was an accident in the first place, why does it matter? huh?

got a meme to sum that up too?




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    #18864197 - 09/19/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I only go into dick mode when there's a multiple offender who obviously wants to provoke people or be obscene. I hand out a warning for someone who might not be aware of the rules(unless it's stupid shit like asking for hook ups, a seriously over the line comment, or some newbie trying to act like a bad ass). I only hand out bans to people with an established record of being a fuckface.


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    #18864200 - 09/19/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cool bro, really. Everyone give him a pat on the back for not being a dick.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864213 - 09/19/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864241 - 09/19/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I only go into dick mode when there's a multiple offender who obviously wants to provoke people or be obscene. I hand out a warning for someone who might not be aware of the rules(unless it's stupid shit like asking for hook ups, a seriously over the line comment, or some newbie trying to act like a bad ass). I only hand out bans to people with an established record of being a fuckface.




I've got a solution to all these dick mode problems:dancer:

we just need a warning before said mod enters dick mode and i have just the thing:thumbup:



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18864280 - 09/19/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Cool bro, really. Everyone give him a pat on the back for not being a dick.



I've seen you make multiple posts today. And every single one of them has involved you being a dick.

Why the attitude? I understand it's fun to be mean on the internet sometimes. but it's the shroomery man.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #18864282 - 09/19/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18864292 - 09/19/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly. Akiras got it down to a science.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864341 - 09/19/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I only go into dick mode when there's a multiple offender who obviously wants to provoke people or be obscene. I hand out a warning for someone who might not be aware of the rules(unless it's stupid shit like asking for hook ups, a seriously over the line comment, or some newbie trying to act like a bad ass). I only hand out bans to people with an established record of being a fuckface.




Do you have an opinion about the no dosage advice rule?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18864432 - 09/19/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Warning and deleted post... If new member and first time offense for that.

That's a serious liability for us. If some dumb ass comes here like HOW MUHC HRYDOR MORINE I TAKE 2 GET HIGH? And someone responds with a dose that is way to high, and they OD and die, then the cops find out they advice on how much to take the from Shroomery... Probably end of the Shroomery as you know it.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864444 - 09/19/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That isn't an opinion.  That isn't even what I asked you.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18864454 - 09/19/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Exactly. Akiras got it down to a science.



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #18864471 - 09/19/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I edited it to include an opinion. It's a huge risk, especially with all the trolls we have here. See this post, very first response. That guy is dead now from an overdose. Luckily that post didn't lead to his death.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack] * 1
    #18864473 - 09/19/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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CidneyIndole said:
Say  this a hundred more times, if you'd like. That won't make it any more true.




Of course it's true. Asking a maximum dosage is asking for dosage advice. That's not debatable.

You can debate whether the rule is a good one. You can debate if it should even be a rule.

However, it is a rule. He did violate it.

John did the right thing by banning him.



An LD50 is not dosage advice, and that rule was rarely enforced and was selective until recently.  I can go back and find over 10,000 threads with dosage information where no one was banned, the threads weren't locked or deleted, and a lot of the dosage information was given out by mods before they were mods.  The rule is fucking stupid.




I agree with luvdemshrooms.
OP clearly asked for dosage advice... I don't understand how this is still being debated.
He asked what specific dose would kill him and that knowledge is UNKNOWN.
Therefore, no approved answer can be given, thus the rule of "no dosage advice" was put into effect and is now being enforced.

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    #18864483 - 09/19/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: nicechrisman] * 2
    #18864497 - 09/19/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

DON'T MAKE ME TAKE OFF MY SHIRT BRO!


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864511 - 09/19/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you even lift bro?


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    #18864516 - 09/19/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You guize wanna fight about it?




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18864527 - 09/19/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18864533 - 09/19/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18864600 - 09/19/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you even lift bro?




Nope. But I move refrigerators for a living, no hand trucks involved. Pure manpower. And I'm a mechanic. And a semi pro MMA fighter. You still wanna go bro? Lets go bro. Bring it.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864603 - 09/19/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm an alcholic midget, let's fight bro.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18864644 - 09/19/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm an alcoholic giant, imma stomp on you bro.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18864674 - 09/19/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I edited it to include an opinion. It's a huge risk, especially with all the trolls we have here. See this post, very first response. That guy is dead now from an overdose. Luckily that post didn't lead to his death.




Every other drug forum manages to do ok without a no dosage advice rule.  I can see why they don't have it with how much shit hit the fan with ripper, and there are plenty of other places to go to to get harm reduction advice (this is a mushroom forum first and foremost).  I still disagree with it though, but there is so much dosage advice out there to be found with google its not like it really matters.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby] * 1
    #18864716 - 09/19/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno man, my fists are probably right at your sack-level. Gives me an edge, yo.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack] * 2
    #18864803 - 09/19/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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there is so much dosage advice out there to be found with google its not like it really matters.




Exactly, it's better that the metaphoric "blood" not being on our hands. It's a legal thing and self preservation (in the case of the user) thing, nothing more, nothing less. Just can't take chances with dosage advice when some of the drugs people ask about could end their life or end them up in serious legal trouble if they take too much.

They can Google it and make their own decisions, not have someone else make decisions them for them. That why it's not allowed on the Shroomery. Surely that makes sense.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18864856 - 09/19/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: ClockCode]
    #18864876 - 09/19/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The mods aren't really dicks, there could have been a few times I was banned more than I was.  And a couple times when I explained an intent or reasoned with a mod I got a reduced ban.  So I think they are very reasonable.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18864896 - 09/19/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dicks? No, that would be giving them a little too much credit. At least for the few who would fall into that category.
Mostly the moderators are pretty decent people, but the problematic few are blatant and obvious.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18864972 - 09/19/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yea i don't think they are dicks, at least as far as how they assert their authority. i just think they have a tendency to misunderstand things, as we all do.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality]
    #18869063 - 09/20/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Zappa is back! :tongue:

I made a thread about it, and the thread was dumped, and I was told I'd be banned for making another thread speaking about someone being banned :shrug:

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    #18869086 - 09/20/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

really? its not allowed to speak about a banned member?? can you post the conversation?


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really? its not allowed to speak about a banned member?? can you post the conversation?




no it was a thread it was deleted. Maybe it's a forum rule. I wasn't dissing him really even though the member is racist and deserved it. Oh well ........................... :whocares:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: imachavel]
    #18869121 - 09/20/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Zappa is back! :tongue:

I made a thread about it, and the thread was dumped, and I was told I'd be banned for making another thread speaking about someone being banned :shrug:

figure this was the correct thread to :crying:




To alert a large group of people that don't give a shit?  Thanks for the update!


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Wait, who's a racist?


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    #18871036 - 09/21/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is the essential problem of moderating a forum, with the mods/admins being active contributors to the debate.
The 'primes inter pares' approach artificially creates an elevated moral ground that IMO cannot be defended in the end.




Agree 100%, that thread was completely inappropriate for an admin or anyone for that matter. WS knew what was going to happen and he did it anyway. That guy is a race baiter and a shit stirrer- posting a silly poem about Trayvon Martin, come on :facepalm:.

Admins should not stir the shit like that. Also, don't even get me started on his habit of posting untested chemical synthesis. I post on some science forums and dry labbing like that is frowned upon to say the least.


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This is the essential problem of moderating a forum, with the mods/admins being active contributors to the debate.
The 'primes inter pares' approach artificially creates an elevated moral ground that IMO cannot be defended in the end.




Agree 100%, that thread was completely inappropriate for an admin or anyone for that matter. WS knew what was going to happen and he did it anyway. That guy is a race baiter and a shit stirrer- posting a silly poem about Trayvon Martin, come on :facepalm:.

Admins should not stir the shit like that. Also, don't even get me started on his habit of posting untested chemical synthesis. I post on some science forums and dry labbing like that is frowned upon to say the least.





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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: setb] * 2
    #18871182 - 09/21/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is the essential problem of moderating a forum, with the mods/admins being active contributors to the debate.
The 'primes inter pares' approach artificially creates an elevated moral ground that IMO cannot be defended in the end.




Agree 100%, that thread was completely inappropriate for an admin or anyone for that matter. WS knew what was going to happen and he did it anyway. That guy is a race baiter and a shit stirrer- posting a silly poem about Trayvon Martin, come on :facepalm:.

Admins should not stir the shit like that. Also, don't even get me started on his habit of posting untested chemical synthesis. I post on some science forums and dry labbing like that is frowned upon to say the least.




A poem attempting to equate Trayvon Martin with Abner Louima doesn't deserve to see the light of day.

Trayvon brought his fate upon himself by attacking Zimmerman. Abner didn't deserve to have a plunger handle shoved up his ass. To include both Martin and Louima in a poem about downtrodden blacks is just plain stupid and insulting.

It was a travesty to post it. It was a travesty to lock the thread. Those pointing out that many blacks create their own problems remained civil. Those of an opposing view showed major childishness and revealed their oversized egos.

Then to have a poster banned for offering a different opinion, one based on statistics, was pathetic.

Who's going to ban the guy who posted that worthless crap and/or the mod with a boner for another user?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18871237 - 09/21/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually the shit was on the plunger handle the cops shoved up Louima's ass.

Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?

:rofl2:

One brought his fate upon himself, one had it forced upon them.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18871240 - 09/21/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They both got their asses handed to them by cowards.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18871247 - 09/21/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure.

One had their ass handed to them by someone who had broken no laws. One by lawbreaking scumbag cops.

That's exactly the same thing.

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    #18871266 - 09/21/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You step to someone and you get knocked down only a fucking coward reaches for their gun, especially when its a 16 year old.  Maybe in your neck of the woods that's acceptable, where I come from that person is a fucking punk.  Too many tough guys with guns in this country.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18871296 - 09/21/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's not what I asked. We've seen you repeatedly state just how manly you are. Many of us laugh at your claim.

Regardless, how about you answer the question posed:

"Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?"


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18871798 - 09/21/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Exactly. Akiras got it down to a science.



:noob: and you're my ardent student.




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18871942 - 09/21/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

he's just taking his forefathers anger out on the white man.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18872015 - 09/21/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
That's not what I asked. We've seen you repeatedly state just how manly you are. Many of us laugh at your claim.

Regardless, how about you answer the question posed:

"Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?"




Apples and oranges, and I'm glad you think me being a man is laughable to you.  It makes me feel good to entertain people, even if they are people I disagree with about most things.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18872065 - 09/21/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can't believe i got away with making this thread :lmafo:

The mods actually respecting our right to talk about them?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18872191 - 09/21/13 01:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I can't believe i got away with making this thread :lmafo:

The mods actually respecting our right to talk about them?




And soon, the world ends.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18872527 - 09/21/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
That's not what I asked. We've seen you repeatedly state just how manly you are. Many of us laugh at your claim.

Regardless, how about you answer the question posed:

"Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?"




Apples and oranges, and I'm glad you think me being a man is laughable to you.  It makes me feel good to entertain people, even if they are people I disagree with about most things.




I think that you thinking you're a man is laughable.

I think that you thinking everyone should be as manly as you think you are is laughable.

I think that your inability to realize the old, weak and infirm may not be as manly as you is pathetic.

I think your contempt for those different than you is pathetic. Why do you think others that aren't as manly as you think/claim you are should take a beating rather than defend themselves?


So at least you're not completely laughable.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18872543 - 09/21/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

fapjack said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
That's not what I asked. We've seen you repeatedly state just how manly you are. Many of us laugh at your claim.

Regardless, how about you answer the question posed:

"Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?"




Apples and oranges, and I'm glad you think me being a man is laughable to you.  It makes me feel good to entertain people, even if they are people I disagree with about most things.




I think that you thinking you're a man is laughable.

I think that you thinking everyone should be as manly as you think you are is laughable.

I think that your inability to realize the old, weak and infirm may not be as manly as you is pathetic.

I think your contempt for those different than you is pathetic. Why do you think others that aren't as manly as you think/claim you are should take a beating rather than defend themselves?


So at least you're not completely laughable.



do you even know this guy? jesus


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18872549 - 09/21/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
do you even know this guy?




Just by his posts.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18872599 - 09/21/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

fapjack said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
That's not what I asked. We've seen you repeatedly state just how manly you are. Many of us laugh at your claim.

Regardless, how about you answer the question posed:

"Are you suggesting you think a person who deliberately punched someone in the face and then pounded their head onto the concrete deserves the same respect as someone who quite literally had a plunger handle shoved repeatedly up his ass?"




Apples and oranges, and I'm glad you think me being a man is laughable to you.  It makes me feel good to entertain people, even if they are people I disagree with about most things.




I think that you thinking you're a man is laughable.

I think that you thinking everyone should be as manly as you think you are is laughable.

I think that your inability to realize the old, weak and infirm may not be as manly as you is pathetic.

I think your contempt for those different than you is pathetic. Why do you think others that aren't as manly as you think/claim you are should take a beating rather than defend themselves?


So at least you're not completely laughable.




:rofl:

If it was any other member that said that, it might have really hurt my soul...


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18872651 - 09/21/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:luvdemshrooms: . . . :peace:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18873683 - 09/21/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby] * 2
    #18873991 - 09/21/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol i didn't realize luvdemshrooms has his own smiley


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    #18873998 - 09/21/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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CidneyIndole said:
Quote:

Shroomism said:
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

Quote:


Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

    Quote:
    rbalzer said:

        Quote:
        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





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Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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Quote:

Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die









Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.



My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!


Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)


This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)


This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)





You illustrate exactly the misconception that made that a dangerous question: the LD50 is not "the lethal dose", it is only the dosage at which half the people die.  That says nothing about how much of a drug will kill you- people die all the time from doses of opioids far less than the LD50.  Its basic statistics: knowing the median doesn't tell you anything about the spread of the data.

As this example shows, not knowing what you're talking about and asking the wrong questions can produce serious misunderstandings.  It may or may not be better to ban dosage advice, but that's an issue to bring up to the administration- the rules as of now prohibit it.

As for the technicalities of the rule, he asked for a dosage to produce a particular result (death).  That's dosage advice.  Its particularly dangerous dosage advice because of the misconception he seemed to have that there is such a thing as a lethal dosage that can be determined beforehand or that applies to people as a whole.  As knowing the LD50 isn't particularly useful, and I doubt there's any decent basis for the published estimates, this confusing info is exactly the kind of thing the rule was made to address- hopefully preventing mistaken doses in the process.


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rbalzer said:

Makes me feel alot less crazy/biased that someone finally sided with me.

If the mod had simply said "edit your question out," I would have done it. Handing out a 3 day ban for asking a question (was trying to make it a ? within the rules too!!!) with no chance for me to right the wrong, just wasn't cool.





No, the reason you got a 3 day ban was because just minutes/hours before I had informally warned you to follow the dosage advice rule when you asked for a pill ID and dosages of buprenorphine.  I didn't give you an infraction for that, just closed the thread with a warning.

Then you did the same thing again so I gave you 3 days. 


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: vinsue]
    #18874000 - 09/21/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

vinsue said:
Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:

:luvdemshrooms: . . . :peace:





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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18874748 - 09/22/13 05:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18876602 - 09/22/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whereismiddleman:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: johnm214]
    #18876631 - 09/22/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

johnm214 said:
Quote:

CidneyIndole said:
Quote:

Shroomism said:
Don't you get a PM of the infraction?

Quote:


Subject: "Re: We can't get dosage info on non lethal things?"

    Quote:
    rbalzer said:

        Quote:
        fee said:
        You can OD on suboxone


    Oh, I was afraid of that. I'm having trouble finding that information..

    sometimes i'm deficient at internet use as far as finding things.


    Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is? is there anything else i should know about suboxone and its safe use?





Quote:


Date Ref User Moderator Type Reason Notes Action
08/30/13 11:01 AM 18775725 rbalzer johnm214 Other (3 points)
3 points I warned you once previously about dosage advice for drugs in the pub, especially potentially fatal drugs like buprenorphine.  As you've repeated this violation a second time, asking what a fatal dose is, I'm imposing a ban.

Please observe the rules in the future.  Thanks.




Seems pretty clear to me.
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Quote:

Shroomism said:
it's annoying because people die









Actually, I 100% disagree with John's moderator action here.  And I somewhat disagree with shroomism's point as well.  That one is a somewhat separate issue, though, which I'll get back to in a minute.



My real beef with this, is that I think John was WRONG to call this dosage advice!!!


Take a look at the question again.  "Do you know what the lethal dose of suboxone is" (with an additional question about safety.)


This is not the same as saying "How much of this stuff should I take?"  (aka advice)


This is nearly the same as saying "What is the LD50 for suboxone?"  (aka request for scientific data)





You illustrate exactly the misconception that made that a dangerous question: the LD50 is not "the lethal dose", it is only the dosage at which half the people die.  That says nothing about how much of a drug will kill you- people die all the time from doses of opioids far less than the LD50.  Its basic statistics: knowing the median doesn't tell you anything about the spread of the data.

As this example shows, not knowing what you're talking about and asking the wrong questions can produce serious misunderstandings.  It may or may not be better to ban dosage advice, but that's an issue to bring up to the administration- the rules as of now prohibit it.

As for the technicalities of the rule, he asked for a dosage to produce a particular result (death).  That's dosage advice.  Its particularly dangerous dosage advice because of the misconception he seemed to have that there is such a thing as a lethal dosage that can be determined beforehand or that applies to people as a whole.  As knowing the LD50 isn't particularly useful, and I doubt there's any decent basis for the published estimates, this confusing info is exactly the kind of thing the rule was made to address- hopefully preventing mistaken doses in the process.


Quote:

rbalzer said:

Makes me feel alot less crazy/biased that someone finally sided with me.

If the mod had simply said "edit your question out," I would have done it. Handing out a 3 day ban for asking a question (was trying to make it a ? within the rules too!!!) with no chance for me to right the wrong, just wasn't cool.





No, the reason you got a 3 day ban was because just minutes/hours before I had informally warned you to follow the dosage advice rule when you asked for a pill ID and dosages of buprenorphine.  I didn't give you an infraction for that, just closed the thread with a warning.

Then you did the same thing again so I gave you 3 days. 



I understand this.

But, I really felt that I asked the question in a different enough way that it didn't matter. And for a little while it seemed like you felt the same.

But no matter, tis all in the past.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18876634 - 09/22/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Quote:

fapjack said:
:whereismiddleman:



:lolsy:


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fee]
    #18895236 - 09/26/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp:

Don't quote this post, he can see it then.




Don't call people names.  Follow the Pub Rules.  Member banned for this post.
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I got a five day ban for saying I could call someone a name.  What kind of dictatorship is this shit?

This is my 1000th post, and I'll probably get banned for posting this.  Wish me luck.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains] * 3
    #18895238 - 09/26/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains] * 1
    #18895381 - 09/26/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #18895452 - 09/26/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it doesn't apply in OTD


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18895748 - 09/26/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

anunnakian said:
Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.




You're*

Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.




I simply said I could call him a name.  I never actually did.  It was a joke because we both have each other on our ignore lists.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18895894 - 09/26/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:ohyou:

You know that there's no flaming or trolling in the pub.
Best watch yourself, or them mods gonna getcha.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18896075 - 09/26/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:gocrythen:

MFW I'm banned from the pube.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18897143 - 09/27/13 01:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

anunnakian said:
Shut up.
Your whats wrong with the world.




You're*

Quote:

lifeiswhatyoumake said:
Mush4Brains,

You seriously think saying "Sheekle has me ignored, I can call him a cunt.  :dawerp: " is okay?
You need to grow up.

The classic saying "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" applies here; it applies everywhere.




I simply said I could call him a name.  I never actually did.  It was a joke because we both have each other on our ignore lists.



resorting to correcting grammar because you have diddly to say :whatever:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18897328 - 09/27/13 03:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: MentalMeltdown] * 1
    #18899631 - 09/27/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MentalMeltdown said:
That poem thread that got locked by Wiccan was ridiculous. He started the thread and didnt like how conversation went so threw down a ban and locked the thread.

I never have a problem with mods are admins but after witnessing that thread its clear Wiccan is a pusillanimous prick.

Mod edit: No flaming..



Wiccan_Seeker didn't do it.  Timmeh did.  I blasted W_S in the support ticket and apologized.  We also had a decent, respectful conversation.  Timmeh needs to go.  He makes up rules.  In the end I got banned from the Pub for a week and change by Geo for general unshroominess.  Fine. 

I am sick and tired of being accused of being racist by PC whiners who can't handle the truth.  Facts are not racist.  In light of Geo asking me to tone down my rhetoric I am not going to call any Europeans "ignorant".  Instead I am going to say that "they don't know a fucking thing about race in America".


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: fapjack]
    #18899689 - 09/27/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You step to someone and you get knocked down only a fucking coward reaches for their gun, especially when its a 16 year old.  Maybe in your neck of the woods that's acceptable, where I come from that person is a fucking punk.  Too many tough guys with guns in this country.




I've met you.  I know a whole shit load of sixteen year olds who you would be utterly defenseless against.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #18899703 - 09/27/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lol i didn't realize luvdemshrooms has his own smiley



WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS A FUCKING TRAVESTY AND AN INJUSTICE.  I DEMAND A SMILEY!


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18899712 - 09/27/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18899765 - 09/27/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

whole lot of jimmies being rustled in here.


this is fap material :beercat:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18899779 - 09/27/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.




Yeah that was a fun little gathering. We need to make that happen again this next summer.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18899819 - 09/27/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gumby said:
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zappaisgod said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Gumby said:
luvdemshrooms, when you gonna get a burger and a few beers with me, fapjack, and Enlil?




I'd have no problem meeting two of the three you name but as I only hang with those of reasonable common sense, intelligence and decency I'd likely pass on the other.



Fapjack is cool to hang with.  We spent a couple hours busting balls a few years back.  There are pics to prove it.  Sadly, the in person tutoring did not take.




Yeah that was a fun little gathering. We need to make that happen again this next summer.



I'd definitely do it again.  You have no shot at Enlil and I don't know where luvdem lives so that's probably a no as well.  But it would be epic.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18900486 - 09/27/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damnit, I need to make my way over to the NY area again one day so we can eat red meat and talk about cars with Gumby.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18900676 - 09/27/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't forget guns. We gotta talk about guns too. Freak out all the locals.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18900680 - 09/27/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Let's open-carry to Starbucks and be raucous and scare old folks and hipsters.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18900726 - 09/27/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Open carry in NJ or NYC is nonexistent unless you are a cop or armed security guard. Concealed carry is only for cops. Leave your guns at home if you come up this way. People get arrested for that shit all the time because they don't know the laws up here. Some bullshit gun laws up here.


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Gumby]
    #18900761 - 09/27/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:nomoreinternet:
Dude, fuck your police state. I never open-carry, but to not even have the option?
Da fuq, NJ/NY?


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: something super extreme]
    #18901297 - 09/28/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In Texas, It's all good! (as the saying goes):grin:


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Salomon]
    #18901312 - 09/28/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this is fap material :beercat:




thats debatable xD


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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: g00ru]
    #18901374 - 09/28/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this is fap material :beercat:




thats debatable xD




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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18901508 - 09/28/13 04:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
You step to someone and you get knocked down only a fucking coward reaches for their gun, especially when its a 16 year old.  Maybe in your neck of the woods that's acceptable, where I come from that person is a fucking punk.  Too many tough guys with guns in this country.




I've met you.  I know a whole shit load of sixteen year olds who you would be utterly defenseless against.



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Re: Pretty sick of mods [Re: Everlong]
    #18902569 - 09/28/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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fapjack said:
You step to someone and you get knocked down only a fucking coward reaches for their gun, especially when its a 16 year old.  Maybe in your neck of the woods that's acceptable, where I come from that person is a fucking punk.  Too many tough guys with guns in this country.




I've met you.  I know a whole shit load of sixteen year olds who you would be utterly defenseless against.



:lolocaust:



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