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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18856368 - 09/18/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh, you are asking about why we do not pasteurize grains?

Grains have a very high nutrient and sugar content.

Pasteurization will not prevent contams on grains. You need to sterilize, ensuring that the bacteria as well as the mold spores are killed.

It's the same reason you sterilize PF cakes (Brown rice flour + verm).

BTW, I love your sig :rofl:




so high sugar means contams can still take hold after pasteurization?

therefore i cant use pf tek recipe as my substrate?

u have the best info no wonder ur a "trusted cultivator"

5 shrooms to you!!!

my sig is sweet isent it...

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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: evileye001]
    #18856383 - 09/18/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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evileye001 said:
so high sugar means contams can still take hold after pasteurization?

therefore i cant use pf tek recipe as my substrate?





Yes.

If you want to use a substrate which contains high sugar content, you will need to sterilize it, then spawn to it in front of a flowhood or in an SAB.

It can be done but most of us find highly nutritious substrates are not as beneficial for cubes as we might think.


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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18856394 - 09/18/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thx i think i have all i need. shroomry search and google will get the nitpicking done...

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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: evileye001]
    #18856402 - 09/18/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you have any questions, a private message to me will get you some great answers that google can't provide :lol:


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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18856418 - 09/18/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you have any questions, a private message to me will get you some great answers that google can't provide :lol:




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Re: easy substright for monotub tek [Re: evileye001]
    #18856844 - 09/18/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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evileye001 said:


i understand where ur coming from but to be honest all u did was bounce around the question.

i still think there is more going on here even if u are right (not saying ur wrong by all means) but really?







I wasn't bouncing around the question, trying to take a different approach.  Frank knows his shit without a doubt so this part isn't directed at him as he does take the time to actually answer questions.  But what I was trying to do was show real life examples of the concepts and avoid the typical copy paste responses you will often see.  And I am sure you are smart, and there is no way to say this without coming off slightly offensive, so if I do I apologize and really mean nothing by it.  But to me if the concept of a mono seems too hard I don't want to get into a conversation of thermophilic bacteria.  In your case this was the info you were looking for though, and you got it.

Back to your original post and my first entry.  You can see a majority of his teks in action and how long each process takes.  I used his, slightly adapted for my grow environment. 

And it sounds like more work than what it really is, but your end result is much greater than cakes and really is less manual labor as you dont have to fan/mist, dunk/roll and prepare perlite.  Once I went to tubs I never went back, I did a year of cakes and 1 flush of bulk substrate trumps 3 flushes of 8 cakes and I never looked back.


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