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First grow ever grow log
    #18854717 - 09/17/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

First grow ever. I jumped in head first I have 15 pf tek jars going and 11 wbs quart jars gunna try doing the cakes and a tray or two in the shotgun and try a monotub.  These jars got inoculated at a few different times but just birthed my first 3 cakes their dunking now ill be taking pictures as I go.  There all koh samui super strain they've been consolidating a few days dunk and roll tommorow should be tripping in no time :-).





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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18854780 - 09/17/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You should able to shake some of those grain jars if you haven't already


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18854848 - 09/17/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I gave them all a shake at about 20 percent and I was gone for the last 4 days I thought I was gunna come home to some better looking jars today so I shook the ones on the right and left the ones on the left to see which goes faster. I recently found the thread frank wrote on how he gets things done plan to follow it to the T.  Unfortunately I prepared the WBS jars before I found his teks and prepared them following a tek that had me soak the seed in boiling water for 90 minutes then strain and pressure cook.  I also had a 1/4 cup of dry verm in the bottom of the quart jar incase of extra water.  I now know this Is a pretty outdated technique but I'm hoping they colonize and the next batch will get done right.  But when I shake these it spreads the dry vermiculite around and really makes em look like shit.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18854860 - 09/17/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Some verm at the bottom shouldn't hurt anything.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18855008 - 09/17/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I just worry about it sucking up some moisture not colonizing and it's not on the bottom anymore since the shake its all over the place. I am more concerned about how I prepared it.  It looks like most people soak for 24 hours then simmer and say the seed ends up twice the size.  I just had the seed in a bucket with boiling water for 90 minutes and it didnt really get bigger but what ever happens happens ill soak em next time.  I'm still learning.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18855026 - 09/17/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's just verm, if it was sterilized, it will colonize just fine.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18855080 - 09/17/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool thanks


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18855182 - 09/17/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yea the way you prepped the grain might not be the best but it has worked and will work for you. You might just think it look like crap after shaking even after shaking 100% jars I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't think it would end up looking how it does, but it's fine and ready to use. Shaking really makes them look like they have a lot of work to still do. Don't shake the jars more that the two times though once at 20-40% or whenever you catch it around there and then once when it's at 100% before you spawn it to bulk.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18855257 - 09/17/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yea that's what I've read thanks for the help guy more pics to come.  Hoping to having an epic first harvest


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857438 - 09/18/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Got em dunked and rolled and in the shotgun.  My original pinning strategy was to move the dunked cakes into the  bedroom where the air conditioner is keep em 10 degrees cooler then where they colonised.  After some reading I'm thinking that's lowering the temp isn't as important as keeping them in a room withoutt moving air.  Is it true that a cooler temperature during pinset  is outdated an thell be fine in my approximately 75 degree living room.  I will be misting and fanning often.



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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857460 - 09/18/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They're tropical, The temperature is fine especially if it's getting them out of the room with the AC blowing since that will defeat the purpose of the SGFC.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18857524 - 09/18/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool thanks that's what I thought


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857615 - 09/18/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

One more question I bought a humidifier because I plan on doing a mono and I know it will benefit from the humidifier.  Will the shotgun also benefit from a humidifier in the room, or is the humidity so high in there it dosnt make a diffrence.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857673 - 09/18/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There's a benefit to running a humidifier in the room. You want it to be at least 30%RH in the room anyway. A bit more won't hurt anything and lower your energy bill. The more saturated the air in your house becomes the longer it will then hold a given temperature. So less cycles of the AC or Furnace.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18857769 - 09/18/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool thanks ima plug it in now


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857832 - 09/18/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I got the humidifier right under the shotgun so the air coming in the bottom is nice and humid.    Thoughts



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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: Cb411]
    #18857838 - 09/18/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I would personally try to keep it as far away from the SGFC as possible to let the SGFC do it's thing with the least interruptions. The humid air will diffuse naturally. Maybe someone else can chime in on that though.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18857844 - 09/18/13 12:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Id remove the humidifier.  A properly constructed SGFC will provide enough humidity on its own.  Too much humidity your pins will abort or you will get small fruits along with a decreased yield.  One of the primary pinning triggers besides FAE is the constant evaporation and moistening of the top layer of mycelium.  If you keep it constantly humid the evaporation needed will never happen.


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: tbagtag]
    #18857879 - 09/18/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I would recommend any mushroom grower to purchase an extra cool mist humidifier and run it 24/7 in your house all winter.  Try to get your indoor humidity to 40% to 50% and not only will you feel and breathe better, your energy bills will be much lower, since humid air holds the heat better than dry air.(thermal mass)

With a given amount of moisture in the air, if you raise the temperature by 20F, the RH is roughly cut in half.  Therefore, if your outdoor dewpoints are in the single digits and you heat the house to 70F, your indoor humidity is extremely low, around 10% or even less.
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I know he says winter but even now in the fall you might have surprisingly slow RH in your house. And, for that matter even in the summer the cool mist wont get you above 50% unless it's in a small small room.

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Too much humidity your pins will abort or you will get small fruits along with a decreased yield.



True you wouldn't pools forming but the SGFC is 95% or better anyway so it's not like you're going to make it over 100%


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Re: First grow ever grow log [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18857916 - 09/18/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I would recommend any mushroom grower to purchase an extra cool mist humidifier and run it 24/7 in your house all winter.  Try to get your indoor humidity to 40% to 50% and not only will you feel and breathe better, your energy bills will be much lower, since humid air holds the heat better than dry air.(thermal mass)

With a given amount of moisture in the air, if you raise the temperature by 20F, the RH is roughly cut in half.  Therefore, if your outdoor dewpoints are in the single digits and you heat the house to 70F, your indoor humidity is extremely low, around 10% or even less.
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I know he says winter but even now in the fall you might have surprisingly slow RH in your house. And, for that matter even in the summer the cool mist wont get you above 50% unless it's in a small small room.

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Too much humidity your pins will abort or you will get small fruits along with a decreased yield.



True you wouldn't pools forming but the SGFC is 95% or better anyway so it's not like you're going to make it over 100%




That's in reference to the room and not directly under a sgfc.  If the sgfc is properly constructed with perlite it will hold humidity.  Worst case scenario OP might have to mist 1 more time a day.  But either way, if those cakes keep too high humidity by having that spraying it all day, plus misting those cakes will never evaporate enough moisture to fruit properly.


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