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Invisiblefee
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Weed for medicinal reasons.
    #18854641 - 09/17/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ok first off I'm not a big pot head.
Usually I will go months without smoking but usually smoke every couple of weeks but lately have been smoking weekly.

Any who, I have a really bad back and sometimes can't get out of bed because of it. I don't take pain killers asiI am very against opiate usage but will take one here or there a few times a year so I can function.


Smoking never really helped my back pain or any pain for that matter. But last Thursday I made some really good edibles and have eaten some every night before going to bed and every morning I wake up and my backfeels aamazing.


Do you think its the edibles or some other factor.

I never believed weed as a pain killer but I do know for a fact it helps a ton with nausea while going through chemo.


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: fee]
    #18854699 - 09/17/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

i think edibles are actually the best THC delivery method to be honest. comes on slower, has more of a body effect, lasts longer and actually seems to ground me alot more psychologically compared to smoking or vaping.

i've had tons of paranoid/wigged out experiences *smoking* or vaping weed, but never, not once have i had a bad experience with reasonable dose edibles. and like i said, the whole edible experience just FEELS more medicinal for some reason.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: resonant111]
    #18854713 - 09/17/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

continue to eat the edibles every night and when the backpain comeback you can rule out the painkilling THC.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: fee]
    #18854720 - 09/17/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Eating weed is not the same as vape/smoking it. Edibles have been to known to help with pain. Personally for me when I vape/smoke it and currently in pain, it makes it worse but eating it seems to dull out the pain.

Don't know, just me. I'm just one dude. :shrug:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Uzziel]
    #18854762 - 09/17/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

does anyone else feel like reasonably dosed edibles ground them more (reduced paranoia)?

i'm not sure why, but i just feel like alot of the potential negative effects of weed diminish with edibles as opposed to vaping/smoking. like when i smoke it all goes to my head and i get paranoia, dry mouth, etc., but when i eat an edible i'm like way more grounded and composed.

it's strange.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: resonant111]
    #18854777 - 09/17/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I can agree with that


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: fee]
    #18854990 - 09/17/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I definitely notice taking cannabis in edibles having more of a medicinal effect than smoking, at least as far as dulling down pain goes. I've also used a topical cannabis salve on my lower back after driving a long road trip, that stuff helped for tight muscle pain, it even had somewhat of a warming/numb/tingle sensation to it



After a proper edible, my body feels all sorts of good...muscles are loose, fluid, and limber...for at least a day or two after.


I think the body can reap far more benefits from cannabis when taken orally.


Edibles just make me far too sedated and sleepy to take during the day, unless it's an amount so small that I don't feel it. I also find that there's a fine line there with edibles where I'm feeling fine and stoned, or a bit more and I'm feeling like I'm tripping/dissociated (not necessarily bad, just saying that edibles can get pretty intense).




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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: fee]
    #18855070 - 09/17/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

fee said:
Ok first off I'm not a big pot head.
Usually I will go months without smoking but usually smoke every couple of weeks but lately have been smoking weekly.

Any who, I have a really bad back and sometimes can't get out of bed because of it. I don't take pain killers asiI am very against opiate usage but will take one here or there a few times a year so I can function.


Smoking never really helped my back pain or any pain for that matter. But last Thursday I made some really good edibles and have eaten some every night before going to bed and every morning I wake up and my backfeels aamazing.


Do you think its the edibles or some other factor.

I never believed weed as a pain killer but I do know for a fact it helps a ton with nausea while going through chemo.




For one, it may be that more ends up in other areas depending on the RoA, but IDK if cannabis has much in the way of local effects.

It's painkiller effect, for those it has it for, is actually very circuitous. CB gets GABA which gets Endorphin (body's endogenous opiod).

IDK about its antiemetic effect though... maybe someone more knowledgeable can enlighten us?


I'm starting to think about weed for insomnia since I'm starting to become against benzo's by and large, but they're my only real option for insomnia since I can't take histaminergics without getting agitated.

Let us know if you figure anything out... I'm quite intrigued!


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Uzziel]
    #18855120 - 09/17/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
Personally for me when I vape/smoke it and currently in pain, it makes it worse but eating it seems to dull out the pain.

Don't know, just me. I'm just one dude. :shrug:




Can't speak for eating it since I've never had edibles, but I'll agree that smoking weed definitely exacerbates any pain that I'm in unless its like a headache or something. I was on my period one time and was already having painful cramps, and got the brilliant idea to try and use weed as a medicine for once, hah. So I went outside to my car, smoked, and by the time I was finished the pain had already intensified. It was all I could do to stagger back inside the house and back to my bed.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Ballerium]
    #18855123 - 09/17/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ballerium said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
Personally for me when I vape/smoke it and currently in pain, it makes it worse but eating it seems to dull out the pain.

Don't know, just me. I'm just one dude. :shrug:




Can't speak for eating it since I've never had edibles, but I'll agree that smoking weed definitely exacerbates any pain that I'm in unless its like a headache or something. I was on my period one time and was already having painful cramps, and got the brilliant idea to try and use weed as a medicine for once, hah. So I went outside to my car, smoked, and by the time I was finished the pain had already intensified. It was all I could do to stagger back inside the house and back to my bed.




Oh no :frown:

This thread really turns a lot of what I assumed about weed on its head!


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st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: st1llnox]
    #18855147 - 09/17/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Btw st1llnox have you tried valerian tea for your insomnia? It doesn't make me as drowsy as antihistamines do but it definitely relaxes me and puts me in a state where it is easier to fall asleep, and that's just with one tea bag.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Ballerium]
    #18855157 - 09/17/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Ballerium said:
Btw st1llnox have you tried valerian tea for your insomnia? It doesn't make me as drowsy as antihistamines do but it definitely relaxes me and puts me in a state where it is easier to fall asleep, and that's just with one tea bag.




I've been trying that as a second string, lately, including so that I don't need to take as high a dose of these benzos (I'm sure PRN can't hurt, but having read so much of Professor Ashton's work, incl. part of the Ashton Manual, as well as having perused benzo.org.uk... one can never be too safe).

I'm going to try to sleep with just the tea tonight instead of temazepam... I hadn't even thought of trying this as a first line.

Antihistamines don't make me drowsy... they make psychiatrists think I'm bipolar they make me so agitated lol.

I really appreciate the tip, my friend!


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st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: st1llnox]
    #18855183 - 09/17/13 07:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My sister was getting medical marijuana for her Crohns. Now weed is legal in Washington so she can just get it wherever.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: st1llnox]
    #18855188 - 09/17/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you can get a strong indica strain and make edibles out of that (done that once) OMG your body will have a full body orgasm


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18855190 - 09/17/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Doobie Dude said:
If you can get a strong indica strain and make edibles out of that (done that once) OMG your body will have a full body orgasm




Is that the headier/THC-ier one or is that the body high/CBD-heavy strain?


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Back, bitches.
st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18855197 - 09/17/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've never eaten a really potent brownie before.  :feelssadman:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Magicman69]
    #18855204 - 09/17/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Magicman69 said:
I've never eaten a really potent brownie before.  :feelssadman:




I made them once.

Forgot to put the eggs in until it was cooking.

I tried to add them in after the fact but it just turned out to be a really not-so-fluffy brownie with scrambled egg chunks throughout. :failboat:


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st1lln0x: so i'm on weed, temazepam, adderall, dexedrine, dxm, dph, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, tryptophan, GABA, and kratom
Cavemen_savemen: st1lln0x, do you feel like a robot yet?
st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: fee]
    #18855206 - 09/17/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

fee said:
Ok first off I'm not a big pot head.
Usually I will go months without smoking but usually smoke every couple of weeks but lately have been smoking weekly.

Any who, I have a really bad back and sometimes can't get out of bed because of it. I don't take pain killers asiI am very against opiate usage but will take one here or there a few times a year so I can function.


Smoking never really helped my back pain or any pain for that matter. But last Thursday I made some really good edibles and have eaten some every night before going to bed and every morning I wake up and my backfeels aamazing.


Do you think its the edibles or some other factor.

I never believed weed as a pain killer but I do know for a fact it helps a ton with nausea while going through chemo.




For me edibles always have a very intense and relaxing body high. I bet they cure your back pain indirectly by helping you relax your back while you're sleeping. Just my take on it, maybe it's a painkiller too. It's never been a painkiller for me but no two people (or pains) are exactly alike.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18855234 - 09/17/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
Quote:

fee said:
Ok first off I'm not a big pot head.
Usually I will go months without smoking but usually smoke every couple of weeks but lately have been smoking weekly.

Any who, I have a really bad back and sometimes can't get out of bed because of it. I don't take pain killers asiI am very against opiate usage but will take one here or there a few times a year so I can function.


Smoking never really helped my back pain or any pain for that matter. But last Thursday I made some really good edibles and have eaten some every night before going to bed and every morning I wake up and my backfeels aamazing.


Do you think its the edibles or some other factor.

I never believed weed as a pain killer but I do know for a fact it helps a ton with nausea while going through chemo.




For me edibles always have a very intense and relaxing body high. I bet they cure your back pain indirectly by helping you relax your back while you're sleeping. Just my take on it, maybe it's a painkiller too. It's never been a painkiller for me but no two people (or pains) are exactly alike.





I think you are right about it relaxing me.


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blankk said to fee:
btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Weed for medicinal reasons. [Re: st1llnox]
    #18855259 - 09/17/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Indica is the body high.  Sativa is the head high.  I prefer heavy indicas not as much parinoia.


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