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TheFourthEyE
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Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend?
#18853881 - 09/17/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys, ok so after a year and a half my girlfriend tells me she wants to try a psychedelic, i tell her amazing stories about my experiences and i don't want to ruin it for her.
Just keep in mind that she has never smoked weed, does not smoke cigarettes, nor do i believe she would do any dirty drugs.
What do you guys think is the best psychedelic for her. I really can't judge since i smoked weed long before i started tripping and was used to the feeling of being high and tripping. I can imagine that psychedelics would be scary for someone who has not used anything ever. I am also sure that she doesn't want to do it just to impress me and so on. She is really bright and i think she can gain alot from psychedelics.
What do you think.. Lsd, shroomies or some mescaline?
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MrMagicMushroom
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
#18853903 - 09/17/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say some lsd is In order here. Its an amazing first psychedelic.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18853915 - 09/17/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
#18853919 - 09/17/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Low dose DMT, the good thing about it is that its over soon so if she doesn't like it she won't be dedicated to 4-6hrs. If not that then I would say a 1/16 of mushrooms.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: K1ngSp4de]
#18853925 - 09/17/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18853933 - 09/17/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mescaline is really friendly, but puking could be an issue...
LSD is probably a good bet. I'm not sure what the situation is in SA, but AL-LAD has just hit the legal market over here. It's chemically almost the same as acid, just like a really easy to handle friendly version, but a bit more euphoric.
Personally I always get a bit anxious on shroom come up, although it was my first trip and I had a great time. Keep the dose low though.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: TheFourthEyE]
#18853937 - 09/17/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would say shrooms(or mescaline) 0.3g and tell her not to expect too much , after a week or two 0.8g after a week or two 1.5g and if shes happy then maybe more Don't rush things , if shes hasnt ever done any drugs then she isnt used to altered consciousnesses/altered states of mind which as you said it can be scary thats why you have to do baby steps , mushrooms will always be there for her so there is no need to rush things , sure it might not be awesome experiences and low dosages but it's really important to take it slowly that way Im sure she'll like it better.
If you choose mescaline do the same thing. Mescaline might be a better psychedelic for her to try but it takes a long time to return to normal so if she doesnt like it and wanted to end the trip might make her freak out . IMHO Mescaline might actually be better because it has a very nice happy/love/ecstatic/comfort feeling and shrooms although might make someone more anxious, they are more mystical and more psychedelic if someone can say that, so its almost like a tradeoff for me.
LSD would be my third choice to be honest. I know LSD can be amazing but I would like my first psychedelic experience to be shrooms or mescaline , the first experience is really important
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TheFourthEyE
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: PocketLady]
#18853959 - 09/17/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you guys think mescaline would work? I told her about the puking and taste so she knows. But the LSD's potency over here varies alot. Some blotter are MIND BLOWING, and others not. I'm just scared that she might get a too big dose lsd. I don't think shrooms will work, since you don't have so much control of you emotions and stuff..
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: l33t]
#18853965 - 09/17/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shrooms, LSD, Mescaline, go with her
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: Shortknight]
#18854046 - 09/17/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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1.5 grams of shrooms would be perfect for her.
It is an easy going dose and will give her an idea of whether or not she'll like tripping. The experience wont be intense and it wont last as long as acid. So if for any reason she isn't enjoying her very first experience it wont last for very long. All of us trippers know that on epic trips, 2 hours can seem like 20 lifetimes, so acid or mescaline would not be ideal imo. Things could get way out of hand and traumatic if she gets stuck in a bad experience that lasts for 10+ hours. You don't need the police or hospital/ambulance getting involved in your business..
Be reasonable and start off with something that's user friendly and has a shorter duration. If she enjoys the experience you can talk with her about Mescaline and Acid and see if she is interested in a longer voyage.
This is just my 2 cents
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: Shortknight]
#18854050 - 09/17/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms or DMT. Preferably mushrooms since you said she doesn't smoke. Mushroom doses are much easier to gauge than cactus or LSD. You have no chance of getting something that it's not. And the length of the experience is perfect for a first timer. Not too long not to short.
Problems with mescaline - mostly physical side effects, varying potency, longggg trip
Problems with LSD - high chance of getting research chemicals which she didn't bargain for. RC's can be dangerous when taken without knowing. Even if it's legit L, potency varies tremendously and can make or break the experience.
This is assuming of course that you don't want to go the RC route. But out of the classics I think mushrooms are ideal for a first timer. Not that I don't love the others, but they're not quite as reliable. You want your first time down the rabbit hole to be memorable (and for good reasons...) DMT would be my second choice. It's a full blown taste of psychedelia, dose is easily managed by the user, and it's short and sweet. But it is harsh to smoke...
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
#18854724 - 09/17/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
psilocybinjunkie said: 1.5 grams of shrooms would be perfect for her.
It is an easy going dose and will give her an idea of whether or not she'll like tripping. The experience wont be intense and it wont last as long as acid. So if for any reason she isn't enjoying her very first experience it wont last for very long. All of us trippers know that on epic trips, 2 hours can seem like 20 lifetimes, so acid or mescaline would not be ideal imo. Things could get way out of hand and traumatic if she gets stuck in a bad experience that lasts for 10+ hours. You don't need the police or hospital/ambulance getting involved in your business..
Be reasonable and start off with something that's user friendly and has a shorter duration. If she enjoys the experience you can talk with her about Mescaline and Acid and see if she is interested in a longer voyage.
This is just my 2 cents
I think that's the best approach...I've pondered this same thing in regards to introducing my sister to trying her first psychedelic, since the only drugs she's tried is alcohol and cannabis very occasionally.
Repeating what some others have already said, but just throwing my thoughts on the subject out there. I'm always kinda torn between the classics for first timers. Depending on who the person is, wanting to show them a glimpse of the experience but not turning them off to it.
Mushrooms...Don't last all that long, but they do tend to be potentially "rougher" & "heavier" than the other classics, I'd say equal potential for an ultimate serene state of mind in small doses. And dosage response seems to be rather variable with mushrooms.
LSD is usually more lucid and easy going than mushrooms, but it lasts so long if things went down hill that's a long experience. But putting a piece of paper under the tongue, done and over with, is convenient.
Mescaline is generall very gentle and passive while immersive, in my and most others experience with it. I think it would be a great intro to psychedelics....But unless extracted, drinking the tea or eating tar is a challenge in itself for some people, and stomach discomfort/purging can be happen. And mescaline also lasts a long time, if someone some how managed to have a bad experience on it, just like L it's going to be a long experience.
Small doses of smoked DMT is another one I've considered for first timers just because of the short duration, relatively clear mind, and pronounced visuals even in low doses. I think the quick come up can still be manageable for first timers, so as long as it's a small dose. But for someone that doesn't smoke their lungs are going to be way sensitive, it can be harsh, and it does take some technique to hit dmt just right.
If the person is willing...I'd say MDMA is the absolute perfect introduction to psychedelics. Now I know most don't consider mdma to be a psychedelic, but I'd say it has psychedelic aspects for sure. For someone that's never experienced a shift in consciousness of any sort, I think mdma would be a good approach. Not only that, but psychedelics tend to bring up things to the surface, for a first timer I think it'd be much better for those things to arise, realized, and worked on a bit with mdma than it would on a psychedelic.

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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: openmind]
#18854792 - 09/17/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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1 to 1.5 gram dose of shrooms.....if someone takes a low dose of shrooms and DOES NOT enjoy it i don't know what to say.
it's basically impossible to have a bad trip on a low dose, it's like pure joy and you can still function. i even made a thread about how low doses are totally underrated, you should check it out.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: resonant111]
#18854904 - 09/17/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mescaline all the way, I think its the perfect first time psychedelics due to how friendly and happy it is. I remember my first time with mescaline thinking there is nothing that could make me unhappy!
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: SteelPanther]
#18855126 - 09/17/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Low dose of LSD.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18855161 - 09/17/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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half a tab of lsd.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: KingKnowledge]
#18856142 - 09/17/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with what everyone said about the uncertainty of LSD. For that reason, I'd say go with 1g shroom tea. Cactus is great but the nausea might be off putting if she doesn't have any idea of what awaits on the other side, ya know? It'd suck to feel really sick and not be able to say, "this will be worth it in the end."
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: Acidreamer]
#18856599 - 09/18/13 02:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Low dose LSD. It so clear headed and simple. Mushrooms can be too emotional and I've seen people bug out pretty bad on mushrooms a few times, really weird shit.
As other have said the tab is so simple to take as well. Just be sure it's from a trusted source, preferably one that you've taken before yourself.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: CatchThirtythr33]
#18856663 - 09/18/13 03:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SHE needs to be the one doing the research into these chemicals if she really wants to partake. But I'd say try some bud first. Seems kinda odd never even smoking a cig or joint but now wanting to do heavy psychedelic drugs. I'm not judging.
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Re: Best first time psychedelic for my girlfriend? [Re: thormaxim]
#18857013 - 09/18/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mescaline was my first psychedelic and it was absolutely amazing.
whenever I did shrooms I've only done 3.5g so I can't really tell you how a lower dose is but I know I didn't regret that either.
mescaline though has by far been the most soothing trip of all and am dying to do it again its just a bitch to get/do.
mescaline is like a wise old man guiding you. highly recommend it.
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