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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Slinkyboy]
    #16232302 - 05/14/12 10:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I like the taste of blumei tea, it is a good substitute for black tea.
No effect though.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Lago Chiller]
    #16273941 - 05/23/12 04:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

it tastes good?  i'd figure it'd be quite bitter?

explain the taste if you can.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: AgingHippy]
    #16274005 - 05/23/12 04:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Its very bitter and coats your tongue similar to calea but I guess at the dosage I've tried I am using more than someone would for an Oolong tea substitute.

I guess it is the tannins that make it so bitter.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Slinkyboy]
    #16274010 - 05/23/12 04:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The tea isn't bad though, if you pinch off the flowers and use them.





I've never tried the flowers/spires. I will have next time I am growing some.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #16274034 - 05/23/12 04:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Come on guys,give it up:facepalm:Coleus is no more active than dandelions:smirk:

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Kras]
    #16274807 - 05/23/12 07:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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From other things salvia splendens is certainly active but Daniel Siebert fiercely opposes such claims.





My friend researched Salvia splendens in college recently.  He made an extract and smoked it.  It made everything suck for a while until the effects wore off.  It definitely has a drug, but not a good one.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Slinkyboy]
    #16384943 - 06/15/12 11:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

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I think that the reason Coleus seems to be nearly inactive is that people are going about it the wrong way. I've heard that its actives are similar to those of Salvia's. Well, if salvia's got a reverse tolerance, because a lot of people don't feel anything their first few times, or if they do, it sounds a lot like coleus experiences. When I smoke coleus, it reminds me of when i tried acid. Maybe it has something to do with me vaping it almost twice a week. If i don't want to drink the nasty tea, i do an acid water extraction with lemon juice; i tried to extract with isopropyl alchohol just once. That was a real pain.




right so you are saying its definately active?

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: AgingHippy]
    #16911859 - 09/25/12 10:14 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry I missed your reply.
It is very similar to black tea.
Regular black tea to my taste is some what bitter but improves w/ lemon + honey.
Sinuichi is horribly bitter with no effect, maybe sublingual?
Erowid has one post about activity using a smokable extract.
Lagochilus inebrians is very bitter too, honey + lemon don't help.
It is also incredibly aromatic and mildy sedating. I'll try harvesting my first year plants before the frost and give it another try.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: KBG1977]
    #16914469 - 09/26/12 01:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

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Come on guys,give it up:facepalm:Coleus is no more active than dandelions:smirk:




normally i dont agree with such things, but i think kbg is right.  but i do also understand that most, if not all, coleus experiences are with nursery borne hybridized retards.  So i personally dont completely shut off the possibility of "active" coleus until people start exploring true wild strains, if such things exist anymore.


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: kadakuda]
    #17919660 - 03/07/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

As a gardener, I stumbled on this discussion, and may be able to point you toward some info to help you figure out how to find the original Coleus you seek.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/125/

Coleus used to be Coleus blumei.  Then it was renamed to Solenostemon scutellarioides, and the latest epithet is Plectranthus scutellarioides.  I don't think the botanical epithet on your package of seeds will give you any clues as to the activity of the plant since they all likely refer to the same thing. 

Look at its' characteristics, such as leaf shape and color, which probably have much more decipherable clues for the info you seek.  Just as the hybridizers attempt to get a visually appealing plant, you would breed to encourage the psychotropic properties, once you've identified characters that indicate more active plants.

You may also want to investigate the Plectranthus genus outside of Coleus.  Many Plectranthus are visually completely indistinguishable from Coleus, even to experts, and may share other characteristics as well as appearance.  I suggest this investigation of Plectranthus because the latest incidence of giving Coleus a new name was due to genetic testing...

Good luck & happy flying!

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: purpleinopp]
    #17990339 - 03/21/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

You may also want to investigate the Plectranthus genus outside of Coleus.  Many Plectranthus are visually completely indistinguishable from Coleus, even to experts, and may share other characteristics as well as appearance.  I suggest this investigation of Plectranthus because the latest incidence of giving Coleus a new name was due to genetic testing...

Good luck & happy flying!



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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18373998 - 06/05/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Updates?

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: B.C. Cody]
    #18376676 - 06/06/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Rourke hasn't posted on the site in a while, but I imagine he might check in again at some point.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Slinkyboy]
    #18850306 - 09/16/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, I hate to post in an old thread but I didn't feel it was worth starting a new one..

I bought my Coleus simply because it looks amazing. It caught my eye which isnt hard to do considering its beautiful pink fractally heart shaped leaves :heart:

I wanted to read up on Coleus an almost shat myself when I heard its potential psycho activity..
But anyway i tried drying and smoking a few leaves after it had grown up a bit and to little or no effect.. I forgot about it an carried on.
I spent alot of time with it because ..well I love it!! But recently i have started drying and smoking them again after something i read got me motivated.
I noticed at first it was almost the same pleasure as a cigarette .. you enjoy it each drag at a time but with no lasting effects. Every time i took a drag of a pipe or joint I got a euphoric warm sensation in my head.. my dreams that night were wild!
But I seem to have built an anti tolerance because i feel preeetty high right now, and i have no weed left since yesterday.. only dried Coleus leaves and flowers :P I completely agree with Slinkyboy! (YOUR A GENIUS!)
Im going to continue using it, I feel it is relaxing both body and mind and it also makes my dreams more vivid and memorable!
I love my Coleus!


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: 8itlove] * 1
    #18850373 - 09/16/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey, I hate to post in an old thread but I didn't feel it was worth starting a new one..

I bought my Coleus simply because it looks amazing. It caught my eye which isnt hard to do considering its beautiful pink fractally heart shaped leaves :heart:

I wanted to read up on Coleus an almost shat myself when I heard its potential psycho activity..
But anyway i tried drying and smoking a few leaves after it had grown up a bit and to little or no effect.. I forgot about it an carried on.
I spent alot of time with it because ..well I love it!! But recently i have started drying and smoking them again after something i read got me motivated.
I noticed at first it was almost the same pleasure as a cigarette .. you enjoy it each drag at a time but with no lasting effects. Every time i took a drag of a pipe or joint I got a euphoric warm sensation in my head.. my dreams that night were wild!
But I seem to have built an anti tolerance because i feel preeetty high right now, and i have no weed left since yesterday.. only dried Coleus leaves and flowers :P I completely agree with Slinkyboy! (YOUR A GENIUS!)
Im going to continue using it, I feel it is relaxing both body and mind and it also makes my dreams more vivid and memorable!
I love my Coleus!



Take like 100 leaves or so and grind them up in blender with water to make a coleus smoothie. Drinking that before bed and it will make you have insane dreaming. If you drink it in the evening, its very sedating and will eventually lead you to sleep where you will do most of your tripping in your dreams. But you will still wake up sometimes and feel totally weird. Lol.


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18850440 - 09/16/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking of making a tea, but I seen people have had more success with actually blending it up and making a smoothie! Thanks buddy Ill definitely try that, il have to wait a while for my Coleus to grow more again. I have taken cuttings to and potted them with some rooting hormone! Il have loads of little Coleus's running around my house!
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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: 8itlove]
    #18852702 - 09/17/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I was thinking of making a tea, but I seen people have had more success with actually blending it up and making a smoothie! Thanks buddy Ill definitely try that, il have to wait a while for my Coleus to grow more again. I have taken cuttings to and potted them with some rooting hormone! Il have loads of little Coleus's running around my house!
I am so happy about this!



Yeah when I did it I almost completely defoliated the entire plant, only leaving the upper leaves so it would bloom and go to seed. The strain I was using was the most OG coleus I could find. It was labeled "Coleus (from seed)". It didn't have any color, unless it got cold. It was just straight mild green in color. I feel like a lot of the hybrids grown for their crazy colors just don't cut the mustard. There was one purple variety that I smoked while on mushrooms once and these 4 dark purple hooded men came into my visions. If you notice, the stalk on a coleus is quadrilateral, and leaves come out in sets of 2 x 2. Interesting stuff. :strokebeard:


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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18852769 - 09/17/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If you notice, the stalk on a coleus is quadrilateral, and leaves come out in sets of 2 x 2. Interesting stuff. :strokebeard:




Yeah the square stem is something a lot of members of the mint/sage family (Lamiaceae) have in common.

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: psi]
    #18852826 - 09/17/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If you notice, the stalk on a coleus is quadrilateral, and leaves come out in sets of 2 x 2. Interesting stuff. :strokebeard:




Yeah the square stem is something a lot of members of the mint/sage family (Lamiaceae) have in common.



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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus

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Re: Active Coleus VS Non-Active [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18853494 - 09/17/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)





Yeah when I did it I almost completely defoliated the entire plant, only leaving the upper leaves so it would bloom and go to seed. The strain I was using was the most OG coleus I could find. It was labeled "Coleus (from seed)". It didn't have any color, unless it got cold. It was just straight mild green in color. I feel like a lot of the hybrids grown for their crazy colors just don't cut the mustard. There was one purple variety that I smoked while on mushrooms once and these 4 dark purple hooded men came into my visions. If you notice, the stalk on a coleus is quadrilateral, and leaves come out in sets of 2 x 2. Interesting stuff. :strokebeard:




I was literally just experimenting with it, I didnt take many leaves.. I made a dried smoking mixture from the flowers and leaves. My intention was just to pinch all the flowers off and i thought .. ooh thats alot of flowers ... might smoke em, so i took a couple of leaves to. My Coleus was a small amazingly colored shrub when I seen it first, its Coleus Blumei! I guess you could say when I seen it it Blumei mind! :lmafo: ...sorry for that awful joke.

Man, that is something else.. smoking Coleus on a trip and having it influence your visions. That's it, your a genius.. Liberty caps should be springing up in the next week or so here .. that is my plan! I could even make a Liberty Blumei shake! Thank you!


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