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SunshineDaydream
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extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear
#18850259 - 09/16/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have not been around these parts in a long time so hello to everyone new and good to see ya again to people who are still posting! now, let's talk turkey: i've searched this forum and many others and can not find a very easy method for alkaloid extraction from san pedro. here is a method i have come up with on my own and i was wondering if any of you think this would work:
let's say i have a san-pedro cactus that is about two feet tall... i cut the cactus off at the base (hoping some more san pedros will sprout from the place where i cut the cactus, thus increasing my san pedro collection, which currently is at around 7 cacti).
after cutting the cactus here, would this method extract a good, moderate-heavy psychedelic dose of mescaline:
1. skin the cactus with a potato peeler or something similar (obviously wearing heavy work gloves) 2. scrape all the gunk off the core of the cactus into a jar. 3. fill bowl with everclear grain alcohol just enough to cover the cactus goop. 4. shake jar every several hours for 3-4 days (this is an estimate...tell me if less or more time is needed to soak the mixture) 5. once the mixture has been soaking for quite some time, use a cheese cloth to filter out all the cactus junk with cheese cloth, leaving the everclear present in the jar. i will make sure to squeeze all liquid out of the cheese cloth (kind of like doing a cold water extraction on lortabs) 5. drink the concoction remaining in the jar. i've heard that high temperatures can deteriorate the mescaline, resulting in a reduced trip, so i doubt boiling the cactus is actually a very good method of preparation.
questions: 1. will this work? 2. how many doses will two feet of san pedro make? (on average...i know doseage varies greatly from one cactus to the next but let's say i am sharing a half pint of this liquid (aprox two shot glasses full each) with someone else who has tripped on 500-700ug LSD before and i have ate quite a few peyote buttons, myself, and tripped on heavy doses of acid numerous times before...so we are used to getting WEIRD.) the cactus is OLD...probably about 6 years old. my main question is will this very simple for of extraction work?
looking forward to your answers! love and light!
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SunshineDaydream
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#18850294 - 09/16/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i meant to say "jar" instead of "bowl" in the second step....probably, i will scrape the cactus goo into a bowl first and then transfer it to a mason jar. all i think about is BOWLS. i swear.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#18850383 - 09/16/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it would work better if you dried the cactus out before extraction. Filtering that "goo" would be a PITA
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SunshineDaydream
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: j_db69]
#18850428 - 09/16/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ahhh. if i dried the cactus, i would probably want to use the same method except i would probably just slice it up like cutting a tomato up to put on a sandwich, right? and follow all my other instructions?
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#18850455 - 09/16/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you can cut it up any way you want to dry it. The thinner the better. You then want to powderize it in a coffee grinder, then do multiple pulls with everclear, each one being several days. I've heard sound agitation helps- putting it inside a big speaker, or just swirling it around frequently. You won't get anything near pure mescaline, but it will be much less volume than consuming the cactus itself.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: nicechrisman]
#18850527 - 09/16/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
nicechrisman said: you can cut it up any way you want to dry it. The thinner the better. You then want to powderize it in a coffee grinder, then do multiple pulls with everclear, each one being several days. I've heard sound agitation helps- putting it inside a big speaker, or just swirling it around frequently. You won't get anything near pure mescaline, but it will be much less volume than consuming the cactus itself.
i hear that. i'm not trying to come up with a pure crystal form. i don't mind puking a couple times. just not trying to eat a cactus whole unless that is what it comes down to. hahaha. as far as a big speaker, i'm pretty sure the shit my subwoofer cranks out constantly all day and all night can take care of that.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#18860921 - 09/18/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No need to dry IMO. If you were using water I might recommend it, but everclear should filter more easily.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
#18861214 - 09/19/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'veheard you can grind up dry cactus, mix with everclear, and put out in the microwave?
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#18863242 - 09/19/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i tried extracting cactus once, it turns into snot, very difficult to get your solvents back out of it.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: tonpole]
#18863906 - 09/19/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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and no, using a crude extraction with everclear will not get you crystals, but a black gooey tar/resin. You can divide the dose out (from starting material) and scrape it up into a ball, chilling it a little will make it easier to work with. Some people roll it into flour so that it will not stick to everything, and pop it in the fridge/freezer until ready for testing. Swallowing a ball is easier than drinking snot...
and don't worry, vomiting will not be ruled out completely
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: j_db69]
#18863969 - 09/19/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even better just put it in a blender with the alcohol and depending on how long you think your blender can go without burning out give it a break ever 10-20 minutes. Do this for an entire day or 2 and it will be way better than shaking it.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SteelPanther]
#18863986 - 09/19/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No info here just posting to read future posts.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: Sham87]
#18864648 - 09/19/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Putting a big chunk of raw cactus skin in your mouth, then filling your mouth with rootbeer then chewing it thouroughly,is way easier than extracting, and all you really get is the bitter numbing of the alkaloids and one hell of a trip. 
No snot or garbage, much more palatable because rootbeer really does kill the taste. I can chew a piece for 5 minutes until its completely dissolved, swallow with another wash of rootbeer, then chew another. No sketchy extractions and you get all the alkaloids.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: starfire_xes]
#18865374 - 09/19/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually don't use any dark pop. Use a light pop like sprite. They seem less caustic to your stomach and really clear nausea..at least one can of sprite for every hour of nausea protection. At least one foot of 3 inch wide bridgesii raw. It's not hard with a little carbonation and sugar!!
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18865451 - 09/19/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You guys that recommend eating the flesh raw, does that include removing the woody core and thick skin? Slicing it up like a pineapple? I wonder if it sautes up like other cacti, only just a tad with some onions....
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: j_db69]
#18865475 - 09/19/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes remove b the waxy skin and core, only leave the outer green flesh. The darker the green the more potent the flesh.
All other things equal, X inches long cutting that's 1 inch diameter is half as strong as a cactus that's X inches long and 2 inches wide
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#18865836 - 09/20/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: Actually don't use any dark pop. Use a light pop like sprite. They seem less caustic to your stomach and really clear nausea..at least one can of sprite for every hour of nausea protection. At least one foot of 3 inch wide bridgesii raw. It's not hard with a little carbonation and sugar!!
I don't like the taste of sprite, i like the taste of rootbeer.
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Re: extracting mescaline from san pedro via everclear [Re: SunshineDaydream]
#28336080 - 05/26/23 08:28 PM (7 months, 30 days ago) |
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I know this thread is almost 10 year old but I'd love to help.
Freezing breaks down the cell walls in plants allowing things to be released without "killing it", agitation helps as well.
Grain alcohol itself won't freeze solid which makes the process much easier; alcohol also has a low boiling point which means it will evaporate at a lower temp(vacuum chamber requires no heat!) Everclear is also FOOD GRADE.
The process definitely makes some good cannabis extracts. Could cactus live resin be a thing?
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