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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18849829 - 09/16/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You guys might hate me for this, but weed. It can be good - great even, but these days, you'd think it was the only fuckin' drug in 'Merica.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Synthe]
    #18849837 - 09/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #18849929 - 09/16/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine




but all 3 of those drugs aren't good


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18849941 - 09/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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CRACK.




This. I tried the crack like 3 times and got a whole lot of not high.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18849952 - 09/16/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine




but all 3 of those drugs aren't good



:whathesaid:


Alcohol can be fun but it fucks you up sometimes
Tobacco just kills you, it can be slightly fun but high is pffft.
Caffeine is useful but it's too expensive, may as well be buying coke


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18849973 - 09/16/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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nicechrisman said:
you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine




I saw a popularity-chart thing in my area (St. Louis) recently that said

1. Alcohol
2. Heroin
3. Marijuana
I think 4 was MDMA.

No idea how they would get that info though :lol:

But still, weeds far from the only drug.
Go downtown in your nearest city and you'll probably see some syringes or stems.

Some people DO like alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine :tongue2:
Sometimes even all three.


And you guys got bunk rocks
Unless you've shot a lot of coke or something to get your tolerance that high


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850005 - 09/16/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Alcohol, all the way. It's a terrible, terrible drug. I really don't even understand why people like / use it so much. I did use it more when I was younger... but aside from youthful stupidity (and the occasional mild peer pressure / situational stuff) the main reasons were its very high availability and cheap price. Not to mention it's ridiculous, paradoxical social acceptance.


But really... the shit's a poison. It gives horrendous hangovers (if you say you don't get them, you're fucking fourteen-- just wait. It gets worse as your body gets worse at clearing itself, due to the repeated damage you've done to it.)


The "high" really isn't all that great. It does open you up, make you a little "looser," with your tongue and your actions. A little bit of this can be great, and is one of the few things alcohol is good for. But too much of this can be pretty terrible.


Have you ever been sober around a person who was really shitfaced? Like blackout / pre-blackout level of drunk?  It's annoying.  The only way it's any fun to be around massively drunk people, is if you're massively drunk, yourself.



Shit's just terrible.




I'd give a runner up nomination to salvia divinorum.  Never really "got it."  Especially the few / rare people who seem to love the stuff.  I have a weird feeling that I might also add other dissociatives to this list, if I had more experience. But alas, I have not. I like nitrous, but mostly hate salvia-- and that's about the extent of my experience.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #18850058 - 09/16/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, I forgot benzos.  As recreational drugs they're mostly terrible. Far more undesirable side-effect than desirable benefit.  Some benzos (like tempazepam) are a little better (recreationally) than others-- but still not all that great.


And I would say anyone who claims MDMA is "over-rated" has either never had the real thing, or terribly cut garbage, or just a threshold dose... unless there was something else screwing up the experience like being massively drunk, or on some meds that interfered.  There is a damn good reason that stuff originally got the nickname "ecstasy."  And it's not because people thought it was "just okay."  Damn shame the MDMA market these days is shit, and most people don't know what they're taking. :thumbdown::mad:





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Most overrated drug? All that "high on life" drug free shit the gov fed us a kids. Guess what doesn't work.
:dancinghitler:






No offense, and I get that you were probably trying to make a joke of some sort (at least I hope you were) but this strikes me as a particularly ignorant comment.  Being a junkie or a total 24/7 druggie is very much not cool. Having to be loaded to enjoy your life, or cope with it, is very much not cool, or desirable. If you can't enjoy your life without drugs, there is something wrong with you, or wrong with your life, or both.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18850347 - 09/16/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ahhhhh yes benzos!!! Forgot those too. Benzos are IMO the most useless drugs I have taken. It's like being drunk without all the fun of being drunk.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18850387 - 09/16/13 05:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They are good when you need to be tired or when you need to not be freaking out. They have almost zero recreational aspects IMO. Although I will say I've had some amazing sex on Xanax


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850470 - 09/16/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'd have to say weed actually, it's not that great of a high, and makes you lazy as fuck. And people will straight up worship it.




Agreed. I don't judge people's taste in drugs but goddamn I hate stoner culture... "herb is the healing of the nation mannnn" "stick to green, I don't fuck with that whack stuff like mushrooms and ecstasy". "weeds not addicting, that's why I sit around and spend all my parents money on it."

:rolleyes: Personally there are aspects of the high I really love. The sensory enhancement is one of the best of any drug I've tried. But it's completely outweighed by how stupid and lazy it makes me feel.

Another one that's not going to be a popular opinion is LSD. Now I love this drug a lot, but between all the amazing psychedelics out there it's really not THAT great like people blow it up to be. I would take copious amounts of DMT over copious amounts of acid any day



Couldn't agree more, the stoner culture is o goddamn annoying, all they do is talk about how great weed is and how it should be legal and it doesn't effct anyone negatively. While they waste all they're time and money sitting around smoking weed with zero ambition.

Also I hate how there's so much shitty music and horrrible movies that stoners worship just because they're focused on weed.

Really GRINDS MY GEARS


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18850495 - 09/16/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ahhhhh yes benzos!!! Forgot those too. Benzos are IMO the most useless drugs I have taken. It's like being drunk without all the fun of being drunk.




Benzos are the most useful drug.  I can't tell you how many times "I need a xanax."  Probably not as many times as "I need a beer."  or "I need a cigarette" but I'm sure whoever said I need a xanax meant it more.  Its a drug everyone should have in their toolbox, it calms you down and puts you to bed.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: volcomstoner] * 1
    #18850532 - 09/16/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You must know some lazy ass stoners. I know stoners who are mountain climbing guides, martial artists, kite boarders and people who do all kinds of other cool stuff. boring people are boring regardless of whether or not they smoke weed. I guess it can lead some people to be moreso, but that's quite a generalization.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850632 - 09/16/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I love weed because it will make my mind race each morning and wake me up, and then at nighttime the same weed relaxes (and sedates) me just as well as xanax.

Yes, if I wake up in the morning and keep smoking and sitting on the couch, I'll feel burnt out. UNTIL i get up and do something.

Another thing that gets me (and I'm sure others) is poor eating habits. If I'm already half-hungry, then smoke, sometimes my appetite goes away for a few hours. I don't expect to have anywhere near as much energy as I would if I had eaten.


So basically, IMO,
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boring people are boring regardless of whether or not they smoke weed. I guess it can lead some people to be moreso, but that's quite a generalization.





Just realized I haven't actually answered the thread :lol:
I find most all substances useful, however benign or extreme.

Maybe MXE?? Yes, its awesome, crazy, unbelievable- but people have been saying for a couple years now that its so unique and special.

And while I think it IS unique in its own way (compared to other arylcyclohexylamines/dissociatives), and special, its not anything too new.
its just "plain-ole" :rofl: angel dust


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850637 - 09/16/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Id say absinthe(wormwood).


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850642 - 09/16/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You must know some lazy ass stoners. I know stoners who are mountain climbing guides, martial artists, kite boarders and people who do all kinds of other cool stuff. boring people are boring regardless of whether or not they smoke weed. I guess it can lead some people to be moreso, but that's quite a generalization.



Oh I know there's cool stoners like, that I was directing specifically at the lazy delusional ones. Not all weed smokers are like that. Should have cleared that up.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850660 - 09/16/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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yea IMO if you haven't have a hash edible you don't know what edibles are about. eating weed is just wasting it, if you were to try eating weed versus making hash from the same amount of weed and eating it you will understand why you shouldn't eat weed lol



I don't make mine with hash. I make mine with the sugar leaves I trim from the buds in the manicuring process. It's the same material people use to make hash from, but I simmer it in water and coconut oil.

And trust me, they are plenty strong. There are a couple shroomerites who would vouch for me on that.



Word. I can back that his brownies are heavy.
Now, I've cooked hash chip waffles before, and gotten super supremely high. My face was kinda swollen for like 3 days, and I was just soaked in thc for a few days. It wasnt enjoyable. Even with a high tolerance, I just don't enjoy edibles from hash unless you eat tiny chunks.

I think the freshness of nicechrismans material, the quality of material, and the coconut oil make them the best brownie I've had.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18850868 - 09/16/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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yea IMO if you haven't have a hash edible you don't know what edibles are about. eating weed is just wasting it, if you were to try eating weed versus making hash from the same amount of weed and eating it you will understand why you shouldn't eat weed lol



I don't make mine with hash. I make mine with the sugar leaves I trim from the buds in the manicuring process. It's the same material people use to make hash from, but I simmer it in water and coconut oil.

And trust me, they are plenty strong. There are a couple shroomerites who would vouch for me on that.




yea sounds like you a making a type of cannabutter, which is a sort of hash.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18850897 - 09/16/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Benzos suck. I used to love alcohol but now I hate it

I just don't like GABA drugs :justdontknow:


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #18850898 - 09/16/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Good for you man!


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