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First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go.
    #18849445 - 09/16/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've read a ton of info here and feel pretty comfy at this. Im going to do the sgfc. I see 70-75 degrees is the a good temp to fruit. I keep my place that temp. If I fill the sgfc with 5 in of perlite correctly thats all ill need to reach 95% humidity?  I also cant find widemouth 1/2 pint canning jars. Just the regular mouth. They are the ones that would be easy to remove the cakes. They are taller then the others. Are they alright to use. I can wait to find the correct ones. GT & B+ if any one is interested.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849450 - 09/16/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It has to be moistened perlite of course.
You really need to use the short wide mouth jars. They work so much better. If you have an ace hardware nearby they sell them. You can also get them off amazon


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849488 - 09/16/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yeah and a let me tell you a little trick for wetting your perlite that I had to learn the hard way.

Construct your bin to spec (drill 1/4 inch holes on all 6 sides in a 2 inch grid pattern) then set it in the bathtub on 4 cups or jars to elevate it. Pour in your 4 to 5 inches of perlite then add water. You can just turn on the shower head. That is what I did. Run a whole bunch of water in there and mix it around as you do.

Once you feel like you have it well moistened let it sit there and drain for a couple hours. It will act as a large colonder since it has holes in the bottom


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849508 - 09/16/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Bathtub trick sounds awesome. I was going to do everything to spec in the build.

What about the humidity question?


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849512 - 09/16/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It'll get you where you need to be. You are right on track


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849522 - 09/16/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A properly built sgfc will easily maintain 95 to 100% humidity. A lot of people buy a cheap hygrometer then wonder why it only reads 80% in the sgfc. It is because most hygrometers can't read that high of humidity. My advice to you. Don't buy a hygrometer. Just trust the tek :thumbup:

Does that answer your ques? Not 100% sure what you were asking :shrug:


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849530 - 09/16/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You watched these videos right? http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Download


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849538 - 09/16/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Misting... mist the sides of the wall of the sgfc? one pull per wall? How  much at once.. ive never seen vids of it going down. I figure do that then fan untill i see some drops kinda go away?
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A properly built sgfc will easily maintain 95 to 100% humidity. A lot of people buy a cheap hygrometer then wonder why it only reads 80% in the sgfc. It is because most hygrometers can't read that high of humidity. My advice to you. Don't buy a hygrometer. Just trust the tek :thumbup:

Does that answer your ques? Not 100% sure what you were asking :shrug:



Yea. You nailed it. Im rather poor at getting my thoughts out. I didnt want to buy a hygrometer. I felt like I should trust the tek. It seems fool proof as long as everythings CLEAN and spores are legit. Like baking cookies.
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You watched these videos right? http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Download



A few times.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849541 - 09/16/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Spore Load,

I have 5" of wet perlite (did the same thing psilly suggested, and had my whole SGFC in the shower, rather than using a strainer) and my humidity is looking good. I spray, a vigorous 12 squeezes from my water spray bottle, with the tip turned as fine as it will go, about 3 times a day (wake-up, home from work, before bed) and then fan with the lid for a full minute.

I dont have a hygromemter, I put my trust in the design of the SGFC and it hasnt let me down.



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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: hankstymcbankerson]
    #18849554 - 09/16/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

thanks guys


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849557 - 09/16/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah if you watched the videos a few times then you'll be good. You only have to mist the cakes and the perlite. Not the walls. Mist it really well until everything looks wet and then fan it real well. Don't mist again until most of the prev misting has evaporated

Do you have an ace hardware in your area??


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849567 - 09/16/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Misting... mist the sides of the wall of the sgfc?




Mist the cakes directly until they glisten. The over-spray also helps keep your perlite hydrated. Spraying the walls is completely useless.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18849620 - 09/16/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well anyway Spore lord I seriously think you should try to take the time to get the right jars. It will cut down on your colonization time quite a bit. Those tall jars take forever to colonize and sometimes stall on the bottom. If you do end up using those tall jars make sure you put the substrate in there as loose as you can.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849652 - 09/16/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ill get the right jars. No worry. I thought it was bad to get the cakes wet in the sgfc. Glad I asked.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18849745 - 09/16/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: Good luck bud. Let us know how it goes


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18849899 - 09/16/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hardware stores strangely seem to have wide mouth half pint jars when the big chains don't. Try lowes, home depot, farmer supply, ace, etc.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: JackOfNoTrades]
    #18850067 - 09/16/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I know ace has them


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: JackOfNoTrades]
    #18850168 - 09/16/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They also have wide mouth jars at Wal-Mart. They have Ball and Kerr. Good Luck!


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: hankstymcbankerson]
    #18850207 - 09/16/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Spore Load,

I have 5" of wet perlite (did the same thing psilly suggested, and had my whole SGFC in the shower, rather than using a strainer) and my humidity is looking good. I spray, a vigorous 12 squeezes from my water spray bottle, with the tip turned as fine as it will go, about 3 times a day (wake-up, home from work, before bed) and then fan with the lid for a full minute.

I dont have a hygrometer, I put my trust in the design of the SGFC and it hasn't let me down.





Nice job sir!

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BTW hasty, I spell checked your thread in my quote. So don't get mad I didn't quote you correctly. :smile:

  Yeah I actually can't find any 1/2 pint wide mouths here, to many cultivators around I guess. 

I use these,


I find that they work just as good, and I have seen faster colonization times with them vs. Half Pint Wide Mouth.

Just remember that is my personal opinion, and results may vary.

I can also fit 7 of them in my PC as opposed to 5 of the WM 1/2 pints.

They have a longer side surface area than the half pints and I feel like they allow for more evaporation of water off the myc, which leads to more pinning. Just my Opinion......!!

Good Luck! Don't forget to post your results.


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Re: First time pf tek. 2 questions before I go. [Re: Spore Lord]
    #18850270 - 09/16/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Spore Lord, I'm in the same place u are with this whole thing. I'm about to start my first attempt, got my SGFC built, SAB built, just waiting on spores, my dehydrator and brf to come. I've also spent lots of time on here just reading and watching all the vids. PF Tek all the way! I also could not find half pint jars that weren't the very short squatty kind. I went with a half pint tapered jar. Not wide mouth but the mouth is larger than the bottom of the jar. Seems Kerr switched up their half pint wide mouth jar design and the cheapest ones I could find on eBay were going for $20. I have seen others on here be successful using jelly jars and the like so I think we will be just fine.:cool:

Good luck to you!


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