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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu] * 1
    #18848126 - 09/16/13 08:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

there's yer out

while travellin' india, i met many an israeli who got early discharge for mental health issues

most of them hadn't been faking though--their time in the idf had seriously effed them up--look at it this way, you either milk your way out now or get tossed out later when your mind legitimately snaps

fuck the idf





side story, i hitched a ride with a canadian guy once who unwittingly joined the idf because he wanted a cheap refridgerator

he was living in israel with a jewish wife--they wanted a fridge but due to import taxes, many things are super expensive in israel--but! a special coupon book is available to citizens, to allow them to buy things are more reasonable prices (at least it did then)

he became a citizen to get that book and didn't look over the fine print

cue three years of checkpoint duty in the west bank


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18848647 - 09/16/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

holy shit that sucks haha.

I think what you said is my only option for now but again the problem there is in Israel since the army is mandatory jobs ask, where were you in the army what did you do and all that fun stuff.

if I go out for mental health issues then it might effect my future if I stay here or end up returning if I leave which is why I just prefer a job I can be comfortable in.

if that doesn't happen then I think I will have to do some shit at the psychologists.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18848667 - 09/16/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

an early discharge will almost definitely be a blight on your record if you choose to remain in israel


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #18851258 - 09/16/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Apollyphelion said:
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healing said:
Each cog is just as important as any other in the murder machine.

It doesn't matter what unit you're in. You're still wasting three years of your life, as well as the entire lives of many innocent people, children and stuff.




You are only able to be saying this, because some time long ago some one was killed for the land you now live in. Like all land in all of history.
Be a little more respectful of world history before you start spewing nonsense.




Somehow you agree with me in an argumentative tone.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: scruffymafia]
    #18868956 - 09/20/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The first Israeli I ever met was a tank commander in the IDF, she said the experience was so utterly horrible and wrong (being ordered to shoot & kill little kids simply throwing rocks etc) that she renounced her citizenship and even turned her back completely on Judaism and married an Aryan German goyim.

Be thankful you're not being forced to murder children
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There are no girls commanding tanks in the army here, so excuse me if i call this story BS.
I cant say there was never innocent blood spilled but IDF never for killing citizens so if there was an order given to shoot kids the only people that should be held as responsible are the commander which gave the order and the soldier himself which obey this order.
Well lets not get into politics...

OP, there are few ways, i wrote to you, but didnt know really much before reading here, if the situation is pretty shitty you can ask for a form to fill to move you, the process will be like this: they will deny it, you should press the issue, make problems and even not come (nifkadut) and as 90% of the time go to jail to show you are serious, then after some time you will get other job, hopefully a better one...
Let me tell you this, everywhere in the army you feel like you are waisting your time...


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: dstark]
    #18870152 - 09/20/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I have done all of what you said already haha. I got a rituk instead of jail.

pimud haoref can't afford to loose lohamim cause there is almost none as is...


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18870844 - 09/21/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Keep trying but you probably will get a shitty job like "oved rasar"


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