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Yet more ID requests
    #18848297 - 09/16/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Habitat:Birch stump

Gills:Light yellowish orange close attached with whitish veil on pins

Stem:3 or 4 inches typically, orangeish whitening towards cap

Cap:
1-3inches

Spore print color: Orange

Bruising:Blackish blue hard to be sure being color blind.

Other information:Smells similar to a Gymnopilus not sure how else to describe any other way really.




I have been watching this tree for a few weeks, its being attacked by puffballs! There are 5 different species of mushrooms on it that I could tell, I have never seen such a thing on one tree before!

Not sure what these guys were but a slug seemed to want to hang out next to them.
They had thin flexible white stipes about 2 or 3 inches long, with brown gills, and some odd light bruising on the caps which were around .5 inches to 1.5inches in diameter conical but flat with age. Didn't grab any to print.:blush:




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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18848482 - 09/16/13 10:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The Gyms look like G. penetrans. The puffball is probably Lycoperdon pyriforme, the bracket a Ganoderma and the last one Psathyrella candolleana.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Joie]
    #18848593 - 09/16/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the ID's! I live in Massachusetts, does that fit with the Gyms being penetrans?


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18848614 - 09/16/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think the first one are Pholiota species


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: vjp]
    #18849902 - 09/16/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Spore print came out orange (to me at least:tongue:)



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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18850050 - 09/16/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think your Gymnopilus might be something cooler then penetrans, you should dry some for microscopy.
You can use this to try to key it in better. What state are you in?


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18850143 - 09/16/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think your Gymnopilus might be something cooler then penetrans, you should dry some for microscopy.
You can use this to try to key it in better. What state are you in?



Massachusetts, only BLG and luteus are listed here, I have not a scope but if anyone is interested!


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18850251 - 09/16/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I got Gymnopilus subsapineus, but then redid it and ended up with Gymnopilus magnus:confused:


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #18850783 - 09/16/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It seems to be bruising green to me? Here are some pictures in better light.



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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18851085 - 09/16/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like Pholiota to me. Pholiota spores can look orange on foil. You should always print mushrooms on pure white paper or glass for identification purposes.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Gravija]
    #18851163 - 09/16/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You should always print mushrooms on pure white paper or glass for identification purposes.





I think foil is better.  It is hard to scrape spores off of paper, and it is hard to mail glass.  Never seen prints on foil come out badly.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #18851264 - 09/16/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Spore color can be ambiguous on foil. I print everything on white paper and foil so that I will have a decent sample for microscopy and something to compare to a ridgeway color.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Gravija]
    #18851338 - 09/16/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you hold a piece of white card on the foil on the other side of the print and look at it at an angle so the white card is reflecting off the foil, the colour is usually OK.


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    #18851355 - 09/16/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a really good idea!


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    #18851370 - 09/16/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Gravija]
    #18851428 - 09/16/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The first one looks like a Pholiota in sect. Flammula, to me.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=fung1tc;cc=fung1tc;sid=6bd98d17c290d2575057a9d5d63f6584;rgn=full%20text;idno=AGJ9559.0001.001;view=image;seq=00000176




I think you have have it there Gravija.  The quoted portion below being pertinent.

"The spore deposit may have a stronger reddish tone than is typical for the genus as a whole."


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Gravija]
    #18851645 - 09/16/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It fits except for that at the base of the stipe there was not any white and that these had white towards the caps. I did take the photo with the foil on a white desk, not sure if that counts. I will do one on white paper also. I am going to have to do the half and half like you mentioned from now on Gravija:thumbup:
Thanks for all the help, these seem like some odd ones to me I have samples if anyone wants go that in depth with them.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18852497 - 09/17/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seems like a brownish red to me on white paper now.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: lsms]
    #18852529 - 09/17/13 06:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Seeing the shiny caps and the sporeprint in the latest shots I'll also have to go with Pholiota.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Joie]
    #18853075 - 09/17/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like to print on foil, too. I find it helpful to hold it at arm's length if I can't tell what color it is and that usually helps. The card idea is a good one. I find it helpful to put a black piece of paper and white piece of paper side by side and lay the mushroom cap in the middle of the two if I think the spore print will be light. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between pink and buff on foil.


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Re: Yet more ID requests [Re: Joie]
    #18853150 - 09/17/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I like to print on foil, too. I find it helpful to hold it at arm's length if I can't tell what color it is and that usually helps. The card idea is a good one. I find it helpful to put a black piece of paper and white piece of paper side by side and lay the mushroom cap in the middle of the two if I think the spore print will be light. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between pink and buff on foil.



It's extra hard when your color blind too :sad: I think that half on black and half on white paper may be the best way for me to tell differences. Thanks for the tip!
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Seeing the shiny caps and the sporeprint in the latest shots I'll also have to go with Pholiota.



I am going to have to agree they were pretty brown on the white, I found another cluster of them growing between a rock and an oak tree's roots today they seem to be pretty common around here.


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