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lessismore
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I forgot to add that dose seems to be key
Not sure I would do over 20x, except with extreme caution , would probably freak out
5x,10x,20x seems to be for starters up to the shaman apprentice 
20x or above is for people who are not afraid of anything, who no experience would change their worldview, the room will no longer be there and you will no longer be you
20x takes me out of body everytime on even 0.038g (medium-high dose) and can be very unpleasantly effective sometimes, if you get a bad trip
even 5x and 10x can be very intense if you take 2-3 bonghits, or 1 with 10x
5x was most pleasant for me
If I could chose I would like to smoke 5x more often than 20x, still many intense visuals, but still in my room + lots of laughing 20x just takes me too far I feel, so can't do it very often(more than once a night or so or more than every 6-12months usually) 5x I could 2-3 times one night fine
I would recommend 5x-10x for starters, it is usually plenty intense I started with 5x myself, 20x just feels a bit too intense each time (kinda unpleasant, but still haven't regretted any trip)
a mg scale is essential (dealextreme $20) and torch lighter(dealextreme, $4 incl postage)
the only benefit with 20x is there is less smoke compared to 5x, with 5x I had to take 2-3 bonghits often, with 20x it's only 1 hit before I'm gone
but that was a bit of a benefit to the 5x... easier to control, 20x just feels like a bit too much each time, no matter the dose I take (very small amount you have to put on, 0.038g to get almost a highdose trip)
5x is much cheaper than 20x, so good for starters IMO, and much harder to have a bad trip too (set/setting/dose as with any psychedelic, 20x or above is only for people much into salvia I believe), not even sure I dare smoke my 20x alone again ;-) , but no prob with my 5x
If I should make a comparison I would say 5x salvia is high dose LSD per hit :-) (never had as intense hallucinations on LSD before/as intense trip) , so 5x is a good start IMO and you usually take up to 2-3 bonghits with it, so it will become very intense, even 5x
Edited by lessismore (09/16/13 09:21 AM)
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lessismore
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: lessismore]
#18848277 - 09/16/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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20x is fun in social setting each time (0.038g), if being around people you know well and trust, in very safe environment, works fine on a big couch
but not something I would do very often alone, as I once started falling to the ground and rolling around on 20x (luckily I had a sitter)
5x is good for alone smoking/exploration , but even there I started running around once
Be safe, lay down unless you got a sitter
Lots of laughing on both 5x and 20x, never laughed so much on mushrooms/lsd/weed, happens everytime ;P (mostly in social setting, but also alone lol because you think you are not alone)
I try to respect it by smoking it rarely as the effects are so intense... doesn't feel like something to be toyed with / smoked every week, nevertheless it can be very fun in social setting once in a while (more fun than weed IMO) but the leaves could probably be smoked/chewed every week, good for relaxation - there is usually no trip/visuals on them(only extract) and a nice houseplant to grow... beautiful
Edited by lessismore (09/16/13 09:50 AM)
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Sketch Turner
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In my opinion you've got to be quite the hard head to maintain a ritualistic relationship with salvia, much respect man. I've come to enjoy it more than I used to thats for sure, at least after I've returned from the experience. It is so bizarre though, once every few months would be going hard for me. It's good to see Hawkwind being praised at the shroomery, that self-titled album is strange enough as it is, haha, which other albums do you like? I assume you prefere the older stuff, I've had some trippy times with "Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music" (not with salvia though!).
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ShadeOfDeepPurple


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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: Sketch Turner]
#18849251 - 09/16/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cursed Realms said: In my opinion you've got to be quite the hard head to maintain a ritualistic relationship with salvia, much respect man. I've come to enjoy it more than I used to thats for sure, at least after I've returned from the experience. It is so bizarre though, once every few months would be going hard for me. It's good to see Hawkwind being praised at the shroomery, that self-titled album is strange enough as it is, haha, which other albums do you like? I assume you prefere the older stuff, I've had some trippy times with "Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music" (not with salvia though!).
My favorites are the early ones yeah. Love Warrior on the Edge of Time. I recently heard Onward, and got to say, not bad.
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Sketch Turner
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Yeah I've been meaning to give that a listen to, they're still pretty damned good even if Brocks like the only original member left, I saw them a couple of years ago, was so immense seeing them play "Hassan I Sabbah" on acid... Hashish! Hasheesheen!
It's cold, so cold at the edge of time...
Yeah I love the warriors album too, long live Hawkwind man.
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mrtom
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: Sketch Turner]
#18850126 - 09/16/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have only tried salvia once, i was 17 and did not respect her, and boy did she put a whooping on me.
i got 60x extract from my local headshop half filled a bowl in a new ebony piece sat in the back seats of my car parked at home using a butane torch lighter i lit up filled my lungs and held just as my lungs began to really hurt i exhaled then ripples of pins and needles passed from my head to my toes, then back up again about 30seconds of pleasurable distortions, then gamechanger my skin felt itchy i looked down and sow car seat fabric lumps where my legs should bei looked up and the whole car seemed to half melt half crumple in on me i wanted to scream but was unable to open my mouth, then nothing i could even begin to describe, like being poured down a pipe, but in 2 dimensions, i stopped being scared and became vacant, barely even a passenger, then after what felt like hours of cyclic variations of being thrown poured and crushed it subsided, i was laying in the footwel of the car, tears down my face and i had bitten a deep hole in my cheek, i felt... different, i went into the house brushed my teeth which was very painful especially the mouthwash but i didnt react to the pain, i didnt sleep yet at work the next day i suffered none of the usual foul mood that would have accompanied the lack of sleep. i was pretty passive for aday or two following.
next time i enter into a salvia experience, I will have grown and extracted my sacrament myself, i will be using a pipe i have made myself and will enter the experience with the knowledge that i cannot abuse this tool or take it for granted without being punished
-------------------- I have not tried Salvia N2O cannabis alcohol or caffeine. Shrooms, the next frontier. the next mind altering substance i will not be expanding my world with.
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gman7104

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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: mrtom]
#18852046 - 09/17/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like salvia, I learned to harness the mindfuck instead of fear it.
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barong
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ShadeOfDeepPurple said:Fohat Digs Holes in Space by Gong)
I approve. Gong is an excellent soundtrack for psychedelic activities.
Get your head around some Ozric Tentacles next time while on Salvia
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lessismore
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: barong]
#18852262 - 09/17/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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20x salvia with good friends on a nice big couch, never laughed so much in my life each time
pretty good in social setting, as long as you respect it and don't do around strangers, only trusted friends , more fun than weed - or good when smoking weed with close friends (smoke on a good glass bong..)
0.038g seems to be my dose, but have only done salvia maybe 20-30 times or so (rarely smoke salvia alone anymore, usually social setting) sometimes I've gone higher without any effect, but now 0.038g seems to be my dose (medium-high dose)
I'm sure it is great for inner journeys too alone in silent darkness, have tried a few times haven't gotten anything out of that yet, but it takes time as with any psychedelic, to learn/understand it's teachings
its important to not have loud/fast music on while smoking salvia in social setting... one person had put on dark psytrance... I melted into the couch,fell to the floor,crushed into the floor,got squeezed into the wall still good trip though(although it hurt quite a bit)... like all salvia trips, just don't have loud/fast music on ever
definitely psychedelic.. more psychedelic than anything I've tried (incl heroic doses lsd/death on lsd/mushrooms), it will redefine your view on what a psychedelic can do also very dissociative sometimes/often just psychedelic in its own way, kinda different from other psychedelics, more like a delerium... visuals turn real each time and often 3D visuals or more dimensions (had delerium on 5x salvia once, talked to people who weren't there, to objects I thought were people, was sure I wasn't alone, lasted an eternity)
Edited by lessismore (09/17/13 02:47 AM)
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thedream
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: lessismore]
#18853204 - 09/17/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you've done salvia what like < 5 times and you consider yourself a salvia head. I don't see what the allure is with that stuff, weird body high,and a weird skin flush similar to beta alanine skin flush, not to mention the weird ego loss. To each his own I suppose.
Have fun with that stuff and be safe and make sure to do it in a proper setting!
Edited by thedream (09/17/13 02:39 PM)
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Sham87
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: thedream]
#18853220 - 09/17/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know if this information holds any merit to it but from my experiences I have found out that you can get the full effects of salvia by smoking it out of a water bong.
My friends and I first tried it off a pipe and nothing but as soon as we hit it off a bong, we literally left this dimension and entered salvias sideways dimensions.
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lessismore
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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: Sham87]
#18856280 - 09/18/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes
Bong and torch lighter is recommeneed
Salvia vaporizes at high temp, doesnt work in joints
Hold flame on bowl while toking Hold hit for 30secs keep taking hits till you dont know what a bong is
Usually one hit with 20x and 1-2 with 5x
Its great fun once in a while with your weed toking buddies A rare thing.. it is intense but fun
I wouldnt call myself a tripper without having tried salvia It changed my worldview quickly Can be as fun as any lsd trip imo just short but feels like eternity one trip feels like a whole night so doesnt feel short
1 $ per trip is pretty cheap for 20x definitely worth a try if you can find it
Edited by lessismore (09/18/13 12:19 AM)
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FrenchMachine

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Re: Well I'm officially a Salvia head. [Re: cpw1971]
#19042813 - 10/27/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cpw1971 said: Ok first of all I like to make my own extract. It is ISO alcohol extract 10x left a little bit wet from the water content of the ISO. You wont be able to smell the alcohol anymore just Salvia smell but also kinda like a pipe tobacco. I take one small hit and blow it out in 10 seconds. Then 20 minutes later I go for the real thing. I take 2 or 3 big hits and hold them for about 25 seconds each. Then I lay back and RELAX and close my eyes. The reality folding ego loss effect only last a few seconds then bam it pops me into the other realities.
One of my experiences I saw this reality here flatten out and become a picture on the wall and everything around it became the black void. Then all the sudden there were 2 guys. One on each side of me. They were normal human looking people and they were dressed normally. They were talking to me and they were waiting for me like they knew I was doing Salvia ahead of time. They then stood on each side of the reality picture and took thier fingers and grabbed a spot in the picture on each side and they stretched it out and told me to go through. They were helping me. I call them the reality stretchers.
Hey CPW1971, good to see you still kickin' around! I miss reading your posts about Salvia & 'the Reality Stretchers'. If you remember my posts, I've seen those same Beings/People. Always grinning/smiling at me haha. I hope one day you decide to do a major write up of all your experiences and what you have learned from Salvia.
I had some of CPW's homemade 10x Salvia and it was fucking great! Probably the best quality extract I've ever had. It smelled so damn good, just like pipe tobacco as he said. I always thought you should have made a detailed TEK method with pix for your extract.
Hope all is well in your world. Take care!
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CannabiForMen
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You're te only other one I know . Glad to hear you so enjoyed it.
-------------------- "The rain let up and the sun came out as we were getting dry Almost let a pickup truck nearly pass us by So we jumped right in and the driver grinned as he dropped us up the road And we looked at the swim and we jumped right in not to mention fishing poles Ohhh the water... Oh ohh the water... Oh the water... I dont care if it rains all day."
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