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Most Overrated Drug?
#18846942 - 09/15/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Little follow up to my last thread ...My thought is Adderall
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As much as I love it, I'm still gonna say cocaine
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For what it's prescribed for it does the job at least for me. But for me opiates never really did anything.
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Cocaine. I never got what all the fuss was about. Of course I was using meth at the time, and that's some strong ass shit.
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alcohol
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Coke and booze
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cocaine!
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: MrHill]
#18846979 - 09/15/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say its vicodin. Cocaine is pretty awesome but not worth how much it costs to me
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Crack/Cocaine
I really don't like crack, and I like cocaine even less, I don't like how it makes me feel, and it's way too short lived. But yet I still find myself buying these drugs occasionally for some reason.
With adderall being a close second, it was cool the first few times but I don't really like it anymore. Although it is good for getting schoolwork done.
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..and hydrocodone
although I also kinda do agree with cocaine
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mushrooms
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hell naw.. haha
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Adderal is overrated in that people automatically think they will get an A on whatever schoolwork their doing if they take it.
Xanax is kinda overrated in my opinion
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Fuckspice]
#18847063 - 09/15/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find at least for me adderal a quiet environment and a paper gets done 10x quicker and better. It's not a instant A but definitely a catalyst for quick good work.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Fuckspice]
#18847064 - 09/15/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tylenol with codiene
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Alcohol is also very overrated
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Cavemen]
#18847233 - 09/16/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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some very strange things are happening when I try to view this thread...???
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Uh oh- did you get the Harlem Shake?
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I'd have to say weed actually, it's not that great of a high, and makes you lazy as fuck. And people will straight up worship it.
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He fucking better not have. He's only been here a year goddammit.
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I've only had it once
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nicechrisman said: Cocaine. I never got what all the fuss was about. Of course I was using meth at the time, and that's some strong ass shit.
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nicechrisman said: I've only had it once
I'm seriously so butthurt, I've been here since 2009 and I haven't gotten a single cool easter egg. And I see these guys from 2013 reg dates getting the harlem shake!
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ive been here longer than a year.. I just forget my password from time to time so I loose accounts :/
The last few times I viewed this post the posts were different.. like out of order and some combined together or something. then my posts in this thread vanished.. then my posts were shown posted by someone else with a weird SN..
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TheStormsEye said: ive been here longer than a year.. I just forget my password from time to time so I loose accounts :/
The last few times I viewed this post the posts were different.. like out of order and some combined together or something. then my posts in this thread vanished.. then my posts were shown posted by someone else with a weird SN..
trippy
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I see the way folks think around here. I shouldn't have wasted my time adding to this thread.
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Nah don't think that we're all like that, cause I'm not.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Shroomism]
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most overrated drug: prozac?
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no fucking doubt
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TheStormsEye said: I see the way folks think around here. I shouldn't have wasted my time adding to this thread.
Peace
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Alcohol. People seem to only remember/talk about the good times. They always seem to forget getting in fights for no reason, throwing up all night, and all the other bad shit. "Yeah man, that was AWESOME! I woke up in puke and shit my pants!" Also, kratom and kava, but maybe I've never got the gooood stuff.
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alcohol (having a glass of beer now lol, but i really don't enjoy it for the alcohol. if they made good IPA with no alcohol i would buy it up especially if it was cheap)
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LSD.
Among trippers LSD is SUPER overrated. Yes its got a colorful history but its only super special because you MAKE it super special.
If you would have psilocybin that lasted not 4-6 hours but 8-12 it would be just as special. Almost anyone who had proper Mescaline agrees that it is in fact better. Personally I consider 2C-E better.
Compared to the profundity of DMT, Psilocybin and Mescaline, LSD tends to be more a festival of colors and euphoria in comparison, most people tend to have a shallower time on it.
LSD is not the holy grail of psychedelics, people put too much importance in it.
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volcomstoner said: I'd have to say weed actually, it's not that great of a high, and makes you lazy as fuck. And people will straight up worship it.
Agreed. I don't judge people's taste in drugs but goddamn I hate stoner culture... "herb is the healing of the nation mannnn" "stick to green, I don't fuck with that whack stuff like mushrooms and ecstasy". "weeds not addicting, that's why I sit around and spend all my parents money on it."
Personally there are aspects of the high I really love. The sensory enhancement is one of the best of any drug I've tried. But it's completely outweighed by how stupid and lazy it makes me feel.
Another one that's not going to be a popular opinion is LSD. Now I love this drug a lot, but between all the amazing psychedelics out there it's really not THAT great like people blow it up to be. I would take copious amounts of DMT over copious amounts of acid any day
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: LSD.
Among trippers LSD is SUPER overrated. Yes its got a colorful history but its only super special because you MAKE it super special.
If you would have psilocybin that lasted not 4-6 hours but 8-12 it would be just as special. Almost anyone who had proper Mescaline agrees that it is in fact better. Personally I consider 2C-E better.
Compared to the profundity of DMT, Psilocybin and Mescaline, LSD tends to be more a festival of colors and euphoria in comparison, most people tend to have a shallower time on it.
LSD is not the holy grail of psychedelics, people put too much importance in it.
haven't tried 2c-e, mescaline is pretty limited to my experience. but i honestly wish psilocybin is as amazing as LSD. i have tried 2ci and it is close but very harsh on the come up. i just have yet to find something so gentle on the body that compares 
honestly i wish i agreed because i have given up my search for LSD, and i have given up my hobby of growing mushrooms for the most part because its just not as fulfilling to me as i hoped it would be. i have done probably an ounce of dmt before coming to the conclusion that i will never really know what to think of it.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
#18847866 - 09/16/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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1) Alcohol 2) Nicotine 3) Heroin
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: daiy]
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i never really new anyone rate nicotine highly, everyone i know who uses nicotine rates it as a pretty shitty drug. its just addictive, and really its more specifically tobacco. anyone who uses straight nicotine will tell you its not very difficult to quit in comparison to tobacco.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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Thinking about it and for my age around me Id say Alcohol and Cocaine. Abused to the MAX and nobody even knows that they're doin' it.
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Most overrated for me, id say E and....
I think that's it, just the molly.
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VivaLaMushie said: Most overrated for me, id say E and....
I think that's it, just the molly.
Sounds like bad molly
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I'm surprised by some of the responses in here. Then again, part of me thinks people were sold some bunk shit.
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Cocaine, but I guess for me that's largely to do with whole culture, status and 'gangsterism' that seems to go with it. I've only ever done real decent coke once but my eyes were in the back of my head, my ears were ringing and I felt amazing. I've done average stuff more times than I can remember but it's never something I'd go out of my way for.
In terms of feeling I think things like DPH & DXM are probably the most overrated (if they're rated at all ).. I only ever seem to end up itchy and sick feeling whilst my mind feels like its in a grimy blender. If you wanna dissociate, ketamine .
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volcomstoner said: I'd have to say weed actually, it's not that great of a high, and makes you lazy as fuck. And people will straight up worship it.
Agreed. I don't judge people's taste in drugs but goddamn I hate stoner culture... "herb is the healing of the nation mannnn" "stick to green, I don't fuck with that whack stuff like mushrooms and ecstasy". "weeds not addicting, that's why I sit around and spend all my parents money on it."
Personally there are aspects of the high I really love. The sensory enhancement is one of the best of any drug I've tried. But it's completely outweighed by how stupid and lazy it makes me feel.
i was going to say weed also.
maybe the fact its sorta semi-legal and people are pushing harder trying to get it fully legal.
the positive and medicinal effects are overplayed, the negative ones are almost always overlooked.
it effects people different ways too, and stoners(people who smoke everyday) especially sane ones are almost always not going to notice some of the negative effects or even how strong the drug really is because it does have a anti-psychotic effect that builds up, or because they dont have undying issues in the first place that weed can bring out
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Shroomism]
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Alcohol for sure.
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MXE is the most over rated drug in the online drug community. Marijuana is probably the most over rated drug as most of the potheads don't fucking shut up about it. There are bands named after it, tons of songs and its a pretty mild substance for the most part.
I don't think cocaine is really over rated, I just think its a fucking rip off. If coke was $10 a gram it would be a much better deal.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Cavemen]
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: hidenseek1]
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i was going to say weed also.
maybe the fact its sorta semi-legal and people are pushing harder trying to get it fully legal.
the positive and medicinal effects are overplayed, the negative ones are almost always overlooked.
it effects people different ways too, and stoners(people who smoke everyday) especially sane ones are almost always not going to notice some of the negative effects or even how strong the drug really is because it does have a anti-psychotic effect that builds up, or because they dont have undying issues in the first place that weed can bring out
Exactly. I'm not demonizing the stuff. I don't try to demonize any drug... But in all honesty that shit has more effect on people than most stoners are willing to admit. Once again, im not trying to make universal statements, but i've seen situations of clear denial.
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caffeine, most used drug in the world so it's way over rated.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: druqs]
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said: Cocaine, but I guess for me that's largely to do with whole culture, status and 'gangsterism' that seems to go with it. I've only ever done real decent coke once but my eyes were in the back of my head, my ears were ringing and I felt amazing. I've done average stuff more times than I can remember but it's never something I'd go out of my way for.
In terms of feeling I think things like DPH & DXM are probably the most overrated (if they're rated at all ).. I only ever seem to end up itchy and sick feeling whilst my mind feels like its in a grimy blender. If you wanna dissociate, ketamine .
I've done cocaine twice, and both times the only feelings I got was numbness & a heightened sense of awareness. That's about it. I blame it on shitty coke, but who knows.. People say east coast coke is damn good.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: MXE is the most over rated drug in the online drug community.
Impossible
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: daiy]
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Out of the drugs I've tried, I'd say dope is the most overrated. It just tricks you into loving it.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: daiy]
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Among normal people: alcohol. Every night of drinking that ive hadthat has been fun was despite it not because of it.
Stoners hype weed like its Jesus' dried cum cut with mescaline while being Just as ignorant about every other drug on the planet. in some ways theyre worse.
People hype MDMA a lot, bbut it deserves a lot of that hype. not all of it though.
Oh and all benzos and opiates. too fleeting to be worth chasing at all, and they eat too many people's lives up for me to be interested.
same for classic stims but to a lesser degree.
Nobody I know does coke anymore.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: daiy]
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fapjack said: MXE is the most over rated drug in the online drug community.
Impossible
I think MXE is a step down from DXM.
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Exactly. I'm not demonizing the stuff. I don't try to demonize any drug... But in all honesty that shit has more effect on people than most stoners are willing to admit. Once again, im not trying to make universal statements, but i've seen situations of clear denial.
i was trying to demonize it either, some of the medicinal things surround it are pretty amazing, if i could handle it i would probably smoke it every day, but it makes me trip harder than a low dose of shrooms, bringing out personality disorders and such
if i ever get arthritis or some other qualifier, i might try smoking some of that low/no thc stuff
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: hidenseek1]
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Mxe is overrated as all fuck.
We have users who swear by it. Its a horse tranq that doesnt kill your kidneys (as much). Most dissociatives have a terrible reward/harm ratio.
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Stoners hype weed like its Jesus' dried cum cut with mescaline while being Just as ignorant about every other drug on the planet. in some ways theyre worse.
Actually there are quite a few stoners who are VERY knowledgeable about most drugs on the planet. At least I know quite a few.
And to those who say the effects of marijuana are pretty mild, I'd have to say you've never eaten one of my brownies.
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And edibles are a drop in the ocean compared to what dabs do.
THC hasnt begun to show its real power to the public yet. Wait til dabs become more common, youl see.
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when i was a daily stoner, i tried edibles a few different ways and strengths, never felt much of anything
hash was where it was at for getting wasted, although i never tried a hash edible
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Stoners hype weed like its Jesus' dried cum cut with mescaline while being Just as ignorant about every other drug on the planet. in some ways theyre worse.
Actually there are quite a few stoners who are VERY knowledgeable about most drugs on the planet. At least I know quite a few.
And to those who say the effects of marijuana are pretty mild, I'd have to say you've never eaten one of my brownies.
You probably haven't drank 20 cups of coffee in a row either, but most people agree caffeine is a mild substance too. I've eaten large quantities of my friends ghee before on a dare, I know what being super stoned feels like.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: hidenseek1]
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hidenseek1 said: when i was a daily stoner, i tried edibles a few different ways and strengths, never felt much of anything
hash was where it was at for getting wasted, although i never tried a hash edible
You must've cooked it wrong, or whoever cooked it. I had a pot brownie and that shit knocked me on my ass. & I was a very heavy smoker at the time.
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yea IMO if you haven't have a hash edible you don't know what edibles are about. eating weed is just wasting it, if you were to try eating weed versus making hash from the same amount of weed and eating it you will understand why you shouldn't eat weed lol
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Stoners hype weed like its Jesus' dried cum cut with mescaline while being Just as ignorant about every other drug on the planet. in some ways theyre worse.
Actually there are quite a few stoners who are VERY knowledgeable about most drugs on the planet. At least I know quite a few.
And to those who say the effects of marijuana are pretty mild, I'd have to say you've never eaten one of my brownies.
Perhaps I generalized that statement too much
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I actually trip out way harder from smoking weed than edibles.
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Stoners hype weed like its Jesus' dried cum cut with mescaline while being Just as ignorant about every other drug on the planet. in some ways theyre worse.
Actually there are quite a few stoners who are VERY knowledgeable about most drugs on the planet. At least I know quite a few.
And to those who say the effects of marijuana are pretty mild, I'd have to say you've never eaten one of my brownies.
Perhaps I generalized that statement too much
Most drug users are extremely ignorant about drugs, it isn't just stoners. Its getting a lot better though, at least a lot of common sense drug knowledge is becoming common knowledge in the drug community. 10 years ago the majority of people didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground about drugs.
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Most overrated drug? All that "high on life" drug free shit the gov fed us a kids. Guess what doesn't work.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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I don't make mine with hash. I make mine with the sugar leaves I trim from the buds in the manicuring process. It's the same material people use to make hash from, but I simmer it in water and coconut oil.
And trust me, they are plenty strong. There are a couple shroomerites who would vouch for me on that.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: fapjack]
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fapjack said: You can pry my mug of coffee from my cold dead hands.
The coffee will keep them warm and supple, for ease of java redistribution. 
man i love coffee, even stolen dead guy coffee!
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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You guys might hate me for this, but weed. It can be good - great even, but these days, you'd think it was the only fuckin' drug in 'Merica.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Synthe]
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you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine
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but all 3 of those drugs aren't good
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This. I tried the crack like 3 times and got a whole lot of not high.
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but all 3 of those drugs aren't good
Alcohol can be fun but it fucks you up sometimes Tobacco just kills you, it can be slightly fun but high is pffft. Caffeine is useful but it's too expensive, may as well be buying coke
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nicechrisman said: you may have forgotten about alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine
I saw a popularity-chart thing in my area (St. Louis) recently that said
1. Alcohol 2. Heroin 3. Marijuana I think 4 was MDMA.
No idea how they would get that info though 
But still, weeds far from the only drug. Go downtown in your nearest city and you'll probably see some syringes or stems.
Some people DO like alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine Sometimes even all three.
And you guys got bunk rocks Unless you've shot a lot of coke or something to get your tolerance that high
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Alcohol, all the way. It's a terrible, terrible drug. I really don't even understand why people like / use it so much. I did use it more when I was younger... but aside from youthful stupidity (and the occasional mild peer pressure / situational stuff) the main reasons were its very high availability and cheap price. Not to mention it's ridiculous, paradoxical social acceptance.
But really... the shit's a poison. It gives horrendous hangovers (if you say you don't get them, you're fucking fourteen-- just wait. It gets worse as your body gets worse at clearing itself, due to the repeated damage you've done to it.)
The "high" really isn't all that great. It does open you up, make you a little "looser," with your tongue and your actions. A little bit of this can be great, and is one of the few things alcohol is good for. But too much of this can be pretty terrible.
Have you ever been sober around a person who was really shitfaced? Like blackout / pre-blackout level of drunk? It's annoying. The only way it's any fun to be around massively drunk people, is if you're massively drunk, yourself.
Shit's just terrible.
I'd give a runner up nomination to salvia divinorum. Never really "got it." Especially the few / rare people who seem to love the stuff. I have a weird feeling that I might also add other dissociatives to this list, if I had more experience. But alas, I have not. I like nitrous, but mostly hate salvia-- and that's about the extent of my experience.
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Oh, I forgot benzos. As recreational drugs they're mostly terrible. Far more undesirable side-effect than desirable benefit. Some benzos (like tempazepam) are a little better (recreationally) than others-- but still not all that great.
And I would say anyone who claims MDMA is "over-rated" has either never had the real thing, or terribly cut garbage, or just a threshold dose... unless there was something else screwing up the experience like being massively drunk, or on some meds that interfered. There is a damn good reason that stuff originally got the nickname "ecstasy." And it's not because people thought it was "just okay." Damn shame the MDMA market these days is shit, and most people don't know what they're taking.  
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No offense, and I get that you were probably trying to make a joke of some sort (at least I hope you were) but this strikes me as a particularly ignorant comment. Being a junkie or a total 24/7 druggie is very much not cool. Having to be loaded to enjoy your life, or cope with it, is very much not cool, or desirable. If you can't enjoy your life without drugs, there is something wrong with you, or wrong with your life, or both.
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Ahhhhh yes benzos!!! Forgot those too. Benzos are IMO the most useless drugs I have taken. It's like being drunk without all the fun of being drunk.
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They are good when you need to be tired or when you need to not be freaking out. They have almost zero recreational aspects IMO. Although I will say I've had some amazing sex on Xanax
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volcomstoner said: I'd have to say weed actually, it's not that great of a high, and makes you lazy as fuck. And people will straight up worship it.
Agreed. I don't judge people's taste in drugs but goddamn I hate stoner culture... "herb is the healing of the nation mannnn" "stick to green, I don't fuck with that whack stuff like mushrooms and ecstasy". "weeds not addicting, that's why I sit around and spend all my parents money on it."
Personally there are aspects of the high I really love. The sensory enhancement is one of the best of any drug I've tried. But it's completely outweighed by how stupid and lazy it makes me feel.
Another one that's not going to be a popular opinion is LSD. Now I love this drug a lot, but between all the amazing psychedelics out there it's really not THAT great like people blow it up to be. I would take copious amounts of DMT over copious amounts of acid any day
Couldn't agree more, the stoner culture is o goddamn annoying, all they do is talk about how great weed is and how it should be legal and it doesn't effct anyone negatively. While they waste all they're time and money sitting around smoking weed with zero ambition.
Also I hate how there's so much shitty music and horrrible movies that stoners worship just because they're focused on weed.
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Benzos are the most useful drug. I can't tell you how many times "I need a xanax." Probably not as many times as "I need a beer." or "I need a cigarette" but I'm sure whoever said I need a xanax meant it more. Its a drug everyone should have in their toolbox, it calms you down and puts you to bed.
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You must know some lazy ass stoners. I know stoners who are mountain climbing guides, martial artists, kite boarders and people who do all kinds of other cool stuff. boring people are boring regardless of whether or not they smoke weed. I guess it can lead some people to be moreso, but that's quite a generalization.
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I love weed because it will make my mind race each morning and wake me up, and then at nighttime the same weed relaxes (and sedates) me just as well as xanax.
Yes, if I wake up in the morning and keep smoking and sitting on the couch, I'll feel burnt out. UNTIL i get up and do something.
Another thing that gets me (and I'm sure others) is poor eating habits. If I'm already half-hungry, then smoke, sometimes my appetite goes away for a few hours. I don't expect to have anywhere near as much energy as I would if I had eaten.
So basically, IMO,
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nicechrisman said: boring people are boring regardless of whether or not they smoke weed. I guess it can lead some people to be moreso, but that's quite a generalization.
Just realized I haven't actually answered the thread  I find most all substances useful, however benign or extreme.
Maybe MXE?? Yes, its awesome, crazy, unbelievable- but people have been saying for a couple years now that its so unique and special.
And while I think it IS unique in its own way (compared to other arylcyclohexylamines/dissociatives), and special, its not anything too new. its just "plain-ole" angel dust
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Oh I know there's cool stoners like, that I was directing specifically at the lazy delusional ones. Not all weed smokers are like that. Should have cleared that up.
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I don't make mine with hash. I make mine with the sugar leaves I trim from the buds in the manicuring process. It's the same material people use to make hash from, but I simmer it in water and coconut oil.
And trust me, they are plenty strong. There are a couple shroomerites who would vouch for me on that.
Word. I can back that his brownies are heavy. Now, I've cooked hash chip waffles before, and gotten super supremely high. My face was kinda swollen for like 3 days, and I was just soaked in thc for a few days. It wasnt enjoyable. Even with a high tolerance, I just don't enjoy edibles from hash unless you eat tiny chunks.
I think the freshness of nicechrismans material, the quality of material, and the coconut oil make them the best brownie I've had.
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I don't make mine with hash. I make mine with the sugar leaves I trim from the buds in the manicuring process. It's the same material people use to make hash from, but I simmer it in water and coconut oil.
And trust me, they are plenty strong. There are a couple shroomerites who would vouch for me on that.
yea sounds like you a making a type of cannabutter, which is a sort of hash.
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Benzos suck. I used to love alcohol but now I hate it
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Benzos are the most useful drug. I can't tell you how many times "I need a xanax." Probably not as many times as "I need a beer." or "I need a cigarette" but I'm sure whoever said I need a xanax meant it more. Its a drug everyone should have in their toolbox, it calms you down and puts you to bed.
Not for me I guess but I really hate most downers. It doesn't help my anxiety that much and just makes me feel dumb.
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hash chip waffles.... mmm interesting.
Ya active coconut oil is really some amazing stuff with herb.
I understand the culture your referring to and the aspects of the weed experience... but with so many medical benefits I would not list herb as overrated. At one point in my life I might have rated the high as overrated.... or unpleasant would be a better word. But now I really enjoy casual low dose edibles made from canna coconut oil (.1g or less). For my life, the experience definitely has its place. I enjoy it subtly. Doesnt alter the activities I do in my day, but I might spend more time yoga listening to music or things like that. Tune into body.
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I just don't like GABA drugs 
I had a bad addiction to them but when I quit I realized how pointless they were. Who likes blacking out for a week at a time
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probably would be nice if you were in jail or something like that  idk i have never done benzo, but i have done seroquil once or twice, and the only thing i would want that around for is if i were going to jail maybe put a nice supply in my pooper to have so i could sleep the time away...
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: weshroom]
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weshroom said: Id say absinthe(wormwood).
it may be hyped as a drug, but as a beverage, you cannot find a better alcoholic drink to pair with any grilled meat with marinades or subtle flavoring.
Absinthe: Psychedelic? no. Better than normal alcohol? Hell yes. Delicious? you bet.
A thinking man's drink, if that isn't too contradictory for you.
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it may be hyped as a drug, but as a beverage, you cannot find a better alcoholic drink to pair with any grilled meat with marinades or subtle flavoring.
Absinthe: Psychedelic? no. Better than normal alcohol? Hell yes. Delicious? you bet.
A thinking man's drink, if that isn't too contradictory for you.
Hmm interesting. I had some I suspect was absinthe one time but im not sure. I got it from a small mountain town in germany, the guy who sold it said it was made from grass (plants?) on the mountain and had the effects of lsd. COuld have been something else though, maybe made from sleepy grass. Still me and a friend split a bottle and didnt notice any psychedelic effects.
I would like to try absinthe more to see this pairing you describe. Im not much of a liquor connoisseur though.
But wormwood brewed into tea taste funky as hell. Thats why they rub wormwood oil on babies thumbs so they will stop sucking.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: weshroom]
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absinthe is really tastey, and the who ritual with the sugar cube is fun. although they say connoisseurs don't use sugar because good stuff doesn't need the flavor altered.
i'm not sure how the drunk is different, its so expensive that i couldn't really afford to get drunk on it.
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No offense, and I get that you were probably trying to make a joke of some sort (at least I hope you were) but this strikes me as a particularly ignorant comment. Being a junkie or a total 24/7 druggie is very much not cool. Having to be loaded to enjoy your life, or cope with it, is very much not cool, or desirable. If you can't enjoy your life without drugs, there is something wrong with you, or wrong with your life, or both.
Background, yeah It's pretty much just my personalty of never being 100% serious(usually).
This is someone who only uses alcohol and cannabis rarely and only does psychedelics besides that. I think difficult trips do make you appreciate being sober the majority of the time. Actually one thought that occurred on my first salvia trip was that weed and booze(my true vote ) were a waste of money.
Although this does truly represent my feeling towards the school system.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said: absinthe is really tastey, and the who ritual with the sugar cube is fun. although they say connoisseurs don't use sugar because good stuff doesn't need the flavor altered.
i'm not sure how the drunk is different, its so expensive that i couldn't really afford to get drunk on it.
Absinthe of all kinds is fucking disgusting. The cheap shit is just a more affordable kind of shit. Now when you start talking high-end bottles of scotch or cognac, then we can discuss the subtleties of different fine spirits.
I doubt most drug-addled hippies are sipping Courvoisier or Glenmorangie, though.
As far as overrated drugs; cocaine. Already been explained why. Lacklustre high, short duration, expensive as hell to maintain a habit. Almost as overrated as absinthe.
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THC hasnt begun to show its real power to the public yet. Wait til dabs become more common, youl see.
dude id much rather just smoke a little bowl and chill, eating alot of edibles or doing some dabs is just too much, I get uncomfortably high. I mean I do have like no weed tolerance because I never buy it anymore but still, being too stoned isn't the best.
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Nicotine is the most over rated drug IMO. Earlier I ignorantly misread the title, and thought it was most under rated drug (Ambien).
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i'm not sure how the drunk is different, its so expensive that i couldn't really afford to get drunk on it.
Absinthe of all kinds is fucking disgusting. The cheap shit is just a more affordable kind of shit. Now when you start talking high-end bottles of scotch or cognac, then we can discuss the subtleties of different fine spirits.
I doubt most drug-addled hippies are sipping Courvoisier or Glenmorangie, though.
As far as overrated drugs; cocaine. Already been explained why. Lacklustre high, short duration, expensive as hell to maintain a habit. Almost as overrated as absinthe.
Absinthe isn't TOO disgusting IMO, but I really like anise.
As for us drug-addled hippies, I picked up a bottle of 'The Lasanta' 12yr Glemorangie the other day 
Haven't treated myself to something this nice in a while. Or scotch at all, really. Went into the store planning on treating myself with some rye Knob Creek, but I'm glad I got this. I've been drinking mostly Rittenhouse rye lately anyways; good to switch it up
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Cocaine...even 90% pure coke.
I get the feeling the social "party" drug aspect of it is why its so popular..
I never got that great of a buzz off it..than again, stimulants aren't really ma thing.
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SurReality said: yea i think being drug free is pretty lame, as far as never trying drugs. its different if you have at least tried drugs and chose to stop, but to never even try a drug or any experience that is available to you for that matter puts a huge damper on your life and your character.
I disagree. I respect people for never trying drugs. There's enough to do in life besides drugs to last a life time.
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Cocaine is definitely overrated. Its expensive and weak. Adderall on the other hand is definitely not overrated. Take three 20's and tell me its overrated.
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SurReality said: yea i think being drug free is pretty lame, as far as never trying drugs. its different if you have at least tried drugs and chose to stop, but to never even try a drug or any experience that is available to you for that matter puts a huge damper on your life and your character.
I disagree. I respect people for never trying drugs. There's enough to do in life besides drugs to last a life time.
except there really isn't, especially for people who are not loaded with money and connected to people with access to things most people don't. most people i recall in highschool who did not use drugs just played video games, played instruments, or basically anything else that drug users also did. 
if you are really fortunate to have access to life experience that the average person does, then i'm not talking about you.
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most overrated and underrated drug of all time is def weed. Weed helps to fight and get rid of cancer. In a lot of cases i hear it gets rid of it completely. Not only that but it has a ton of health benefits which are all just being discovered as we speak. Also, from cannabis's cousin hemp you cant make just about anything you want and its all easily renewable. Hemp could very well help save the world
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also, this. my girlfriend is almost completely opposed to taking drugs and so are her friends :/. She has a decent reason though, her dad was pretty addicted to various chemicals through her childhood. Something i'm extremely happy i didnt go thru. My dad was only a weekend crackhead.
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I disagree. I respect people for never trying drugs. There's enough to do in life besides drugs to last a life time.
Its one thing if you experience it and then move on with your life never to try it again. But to avoid ALL drugs and to have never experienced at all is a different story. You should go out to experience everything you can possibly experience regardless of the stigma that may surround it.
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also, this. my girlfriend is almost completely opposed to taking drugs and so are her friends :/. She has a decent reason though, her dad was pretty addicted to various chemicals through her childhood. Something i'm extremely happy i didnt go thru. My dad was only a weekend crackhead.
Did you ever see your dad high on crack?
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SurReality said: yea i think being drug free is pretty lame, as far as never trying drugs. its different if you have at least tried drugs and chose to stop, but to never even try a drug or any experience that is available to you for that matter puts a huge damper on your life and your character.
I disagree. I respect people for never trying drugs. There's enough to do in life besides drugs to last a life time.
Its one thing if you experience it and then move on with your life never to try it again. But to avoid ALL drugs and to have never experienced at all is a different story. You should go out to experience everything you can possibly experience regardless of the stigma that may surround it.
I agree. 
I have a few friends that have have only ever drank alcohol. They know I smoke weed, and I would love to get them to try it, but I am in no way going to pressure them.
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I disagree. I respect people for never trying drugs. There's enough to do in life besides drugs to last a life time.
Its one thing if you experience it and then move on with your life never to try it again. But to avoid ALL drugs and to have never experienced at all is a different story. You should go out to experience everything you can possibly experience regardless of the stigma that may surround it.
I agree. 
I have a few friends that have have only ever drank alcohol. They know I smoke weed, and I would love to get them to try it, but I am in no way going to pressure them.
I despise people who only drink, and yet badmouth weed acting like drinking is SO much better for you. Yeah, ill smoke a blunt... and you take a couple shots and we'll see who can function better.
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lol ya. Weed > alcohol
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I love weed. I just think its overrated. people act like its the be all end all cure all and greatest thing on earth. its just an herb that gets you in an either creative or relaxed head space depending on the variety and the plant has many other uses.
Many people FREAK THE FUCK OUT if they run outta weed and chase around sketchy dealers trying to find it. that's idiotic.
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What about nitrous with acid or E??
And yea, I think people that freak out like that have addiction issues that they need to get through. Because unless you have a serious issue you don't need it. Sad though.
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alcohol is crazy overrated..I take back my former vote on blow and say alcohol.
however, Coke+alcohol in blood converts cocaine into cocaethylene, giving a more euphoric and longer lasting high.
synergy ftw
(i'm taking a haitus from drugs for a bit and all this drug talk isn't effecting my decision at all)
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What about nitrous with acid or E?? .
even more overrated. totally kills the trip/roll IMO. I think its just a schwag "crackhead" type drug in general. its chasing a dragon, but once you finally get the dragon you black out and dont remember. the hangover after blowing a whole tank is also awful.
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I almost think of it as smoking a cigarette. Even a hit of DMT. It doesn't kill trips or rolls, its just fun for a couple minutes.
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Out of what I've tried, alcohol. I'm convinced it's only so popular (aside from it being one of only a few strong legal drugs) because it's popular and people who don't drink sometimes get stigmatized as being uncool, unfun or even untrustworthy, so I think a lot of people drink (even just small amounts) so that they won't get stigmatized like that.
Of course everybody's different, maybe the effects differ depending on the person. But I can't understand how anyone can actually enjoy the feeling of being tipsy or drunk. To me, being drunk or even tipsy is like being stupefied and turned into a blundering idiot, but there's no 'high' to make it worthwhile. The effects are like a poisoning, with the tingling hands, the numbness, nausea and the loss of motor control even at low doses. Yet people drink copious amounts of it and say it's so awesome. Very overrated if you ask me.
I'm surprised at the folks having a go at non-drug users or people who have never tried them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing not to try drugs.
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Dude, I agree. Booze blows. The last time I drank I had this conversation with myself "Ok.. a few more shots.. now.. when am I going to start tripping out, and seeing shi-oh right... fuck this" And that was that.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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alcohol definitely.
But the other side of the coin is superior - there is nothing better than drinking 1-3 beers when coming down from hard trip.
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What about smoking some bud when coming down from a hard trip?
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cannabis doesn't ground me on the earth. I really enjoy the cold beer for max while coming down, to me there is no substitute for this.
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It looks like Alcohol and Cocaine are taking the lead, another vote for them two from me. I have tried good cocaine once (out of the twenty something times I've done it) and it was brilliant but I've had so many horrible come-downs from shitty stamped blow that I could happily live the rest of my life in absence of it. I think that many people who become addicted to it must dislike themselves to constantly need that ego boost, still, I can understand tribesmen chewing coca and going hunting, that would be badass. No need to explain why I think alcohol is overrated really is there. Benzodiazepines have never done much for me, but I've never taken enough to properly experience the high. Wormwood (Absynthe) is pretty cool and gives a clear-headed drunk high, but I don't know where all this business of the artists of the renaissance hallucinating comes from, it's never been visual for me... Pretty overrated really. If you think MDMA is overrated then you've probably only ever tried weak ecstasy pills, I'm really not the type of person who would go to raves or clubbing, but I'll be the first to admit that there's no better drug for a social gathering. I can't believe that LSD got mentioned, I respect Wiccan-Seeker's opinion but I enjoy it for the same reason you think it to be overrated, its like THE recreational halucinogen, so much fun.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
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I know about alcohol but who the hell rates tobacco highly? Theres no longer ads of the marlboro man (he died of lung cancer btw) and almost every smoker wants to quit.
Alcohol is glorified but most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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Nicotine without any doubt. I gave up nicotine on March 12, 2008 and the addiction STILL fucks with my head to this day. That's one awful drug.
Marijuana isn't that great either. When I am not high I want to get high and with my tolerance build-up I don't get real high, just mellow, but not because I wanted it that way, but because it is all that you get.
Fuck alcohol while we are at it. Fucked up drug that fucked up my life. I'm glad I gave it up 29 years ago.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: mpd]
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You can make it easier by reaffirming your decision periodically, to brush up on your reason to quit and to counter each thought about cigs with a motivation to stay quit. The stronger motivated you are the less it will nag.
Your lungs look like lungs again man, be glad.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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Everyone who says alcohol is lying. Everyone who says caffeine has adhd.
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why lying? alcohol has one of the most stupid highs and yet is the global drug #1. that's overrated.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
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Alcohol is pretty overrated by society. Yeah drinking is fun but everyone is like WOOOOOOOOOOO LETS GET DRUNK...its like yeah fuck no... you can enjoy your hangover and I'll have my 2 beers and a bowl, thanks...
Just last week I was out and about and sure enough 4 people I was with started throwing up because they got drunk
So between that and coke.... I'm not which one wins in a dumb drug.
I can't believe Wiccan said LSD. That drug is not overrated at all.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
#18857080 - 09/18/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alcohol is seemingly more glorified by it's users than tobacco, but users of both should be aware that it is toxic to the body. You've got to look at the numbers though, tobacco is still one of the most used drugs so on a consensus level it's still overrated. I haven't seen any charts but I would presume that since knowledge of the dangers of smoking tobacco have been in the public domain the overall use of the drug by the populace would have plummeted. I have noticed that in society in general it has become rather un-cool to be a smoker these days, which of course is a good thing.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
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moi said: most stupid highs

Alcohol is incredible. It's much more powerful than marijuana as far as effects go. If handled responsibly, the substance IS all that it's cracked up to be. It's so incredible that it has it's own disease/addiction named after it. I see nothing that indicates it is overrated.
Maybe you're using it wrong (getting loaded in your room by yourself). Yeah it's terrible for that.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Uzziel]
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I can't believe Wiccan said LSD. That drug is not overrated at all. 
I know several people who would agree with him, myself included. LSD is the most overhyped psychedelic of all time. Keep in mind we're talking about OVERrated. That doesn't mean LSD isn't a great drug... but all the "i don't care to try x drug because nothing will ever be as good as good ol' lucy " sentiment is annoying as fuck imo. It's a good drug. It has some interesting cognitive effects. But it's not THAT great. The visuals are pretty mediocre for a psychedelic, the body high isn't that great, and the headspace is only fun situationally imo.
Most people who know how to properly brew cactus will say that mescaline blows LSD out of the water. Personally I would take a bulk of DMT over a bulk of LSD any day of the weak. Infinitely better visuals, crazy euphoria, extremely fun, "spiritual", whatever. A DMT breakthrough is like a straight shot into total perfection. And then as far as mushrooms go I find them a lot more "fun" than LSD.
And if you want to get into RC's there's just so much more to consider... 2c-b lacked the interesting cognitive aspects but was visually amazing and had an amazing body high. And 25i-nbome... goddamn. I heard everyone shit talk that drug so much so when I got it sold to me as LSD I was PISSED. Until about 20 minutes later when I was sent onto the most amazing trip of my life.
I will give LSD credit for it's ego-blending effects. In the right setting i have had some incredibly amazing experiences from it. But all around it's not that special. It's just another psychedelic with it's own slightly unique twist.
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I can see where you're coming from, in the right environment it can be really enjoyable and a good remover of social boundarys, even so the fact still remains that the majority of people aren't responsible and do fucked up things to each other when under the influence of alcohol. I think most of us have at one time or another been an asshole when drunk, it does enhance the ego afterall. To me it's no where near as powerful as cannabis, but we'd have to agree to disagree on that one.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: rakipo]
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rakipo said: Also, from cannabis's cousin hemp you cant make just about anything you want and its all easily renewable.
seeing how hemp is sativa, id say hemps is more like cannabis's tall lanky brother, who has gone to a few N.A. meetings and has really gotten his life back on track, than a cousin
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: hidenseek1]
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Ketamine. It's fun but it's nothing special.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: weshroom]
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weshroom said: Id say absinthe(wormwood).
it may be hyped as a drug, but as a beverage, you cannot find a better alcoholic drink to pair with any grilled meat with marinades or subtle flavoring.
Absinthe: Psychedelic? no. Better than normal alcohol? Hell yes. Delicious? you bet.
A thinking man's drink, if that isn't too contradictory for you.
Hmm interesting. I had some I suspect was absinthe one time but im not sure. I got it from a small mountain town in germany, the guy who sold it said it was made from grass (plants?) on the mountain and had the effects of lsd. COuld have been something else though, maybe made from sleepy grass. Still me and a friend split a bottle and didnt notice any psychedelic effects.
I would like to try absinthe more to see this pairing you describe. Im not much of a liquor connoisseur though.
But wormwood brewed into tea taste funky as hell. Thats why they rub wormwood oil on babies thumbs so they will stop sucking.
IMHO Absinthe and grilled squid is the way to go. A friend of mine gets the 50lbers they get in the cortez and we slicem up and throwem in the slow cooker with the spices and vegetables to soften them up, then a few mins on the grille and done. grilled squid filets.
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Eukaryote11 said: Out of what I've tried, alcohol. I'm convinced it's only so popular (aside from it being one of only a few strong legal drugs) because it's popular
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: I know about alcohol but who the hell rates tobacco highly? Theres no longer ads of the marlboro man (he died of lung cancer btw) and almost every smoker wants to quit.
Alcohol is glorified but most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.
Of course Wiccan ...but instead of saying tobacco lets say manufactured tobacco
because i honestly think that Nicotiana Rustica & Tabaccum in its natural form are some of those most spiritual plants i know
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How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca
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well rustica i believe is very powerful, one drag is like the content of 2 cigs nicotine.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: fapjack]
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lol whoever has not tried smoking cigarettes while taking a shit should do so
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JacksonMetaller said: How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca
because its been used for thousands of years by natives its been used by shamans for mystical visions
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you know what else has been used for thousands of years by natives and shamans? water, shits spiritual yo
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: rulesq]
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rulesq said: As much as I love it, I'm still gonna say cocaine
I completely agree. Soft coke and crack. Both overrated.
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Your everyday pot smoker doesnt hype acid up too much, and the general public doesnt really understand it, its only people here and artists/comedians that hype acid up (And hippies obviously)
Most uninformed people think acid essentially has the effects of something like datura and as for the people who use it, they drop acid maybe a dozen times in a year.
I fail to see how acid is overrated. Maybe Wiccan Seeker misspelled MXE?
A guy can dream.....
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JacksonMetaller said: How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca
because its been used for thousands of years by natives its been used by shamans for mystical visions
Do you really get visions from tobacco? Someone told me that once and I thought they were lying
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JacksonMetaller said: How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca
because its been used for thousands of years by natives its been used by shamans for mystical visions
Do you really get visions from tobacco? Someone told me that once and I thought they were lying
With Nicotiana Rustica you will I havent smoked it myself, but from what im told its pretty strong
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said: you know what else has been used for thousands of years by natives and shamans? water, shits spiritual yo
How wouldnt something like water be spiritual its an essential factor in the humans evolution
and when i say spiritual, i mean plants that have played significant parts in human history
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so is hemlock and belladonna spiritual? they played pretty significant roles in human history.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said: so is hemlock and belladonna spiritual? they played pretty significant roles in human history.
Oh also, you forgot Mandrake (Atropane Alkaloids like Belladonna & Datura) which was mentioned several times in some Shakespeare
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i don't read shakespear, i didn't forget that lol. so you think deadly plants are spiritual?
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
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Deliriants like Datura, Belladonna, etc With the type of weird almost telekinesis that it gives a person its for sure mysterious
...and really anything, especially a plant possessing chemicals like this is very strange, which gives out spirtuality (for me anyways)because no one really knows why
Anything, that has to do with the mysteries of life for me is spirtual,
and SvS your right, pretty boring i was just reading about Atropane containing plants and i found that little factoid
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.
right there you just disproved your point. tobacco is shitty, but it isn't "overrated". its the lowest rated shit there is, nobody talks highly of tobacco.
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Wiccan's well-supported points tend to be little more than his sanctimoniousness passed off as some sort of widely-held opinion or irrefutable fact.
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I had to look up sanctimoniousness lol. but yeah i agree to an extent.
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I love cigarettes. They are my #1 priority in terms of drugs I buy. Getting up, going outside and walking around a bit, taking a break from work or what you're doing.
One of my biggest peeves is people who complain about wanting to quit. I guess its probably a big deal for people that haven't had any harder addictions, but still, idunno. And for those who've quit- of course you're still gonna crave, its the psychological addiction of any drug. You know it will be great with your coffee, or a meal, that doesn't change when you quit. You can't unlearn the fact that they're good. And swedish snus has virtually no negative effects IIRC. Just like methadone maintenance helps recovering people that way.
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: pcplease]
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I love cigarettes.
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You two are not being helpful to my decision to quit! I'm joking, I think I'm over yearning for the morning and after-meal cigarette now. It does fuck with me still though; I plan on doing some pod putty in a few weeks or so, I always used to smoke whilst under the influence of the sleepy poppy and I'm really tempted to order some American Spirits for this experience, by the way I don't think that I would be being healthier by smoking organic tobacco, but they really are the nicest smoke out there. Still, its easy to say "I'll just have two or three" only to realise that you've been hooked and reeled in once again... It's probably best that I don't really, besides, they're really expensive. I've heard about Rustica being used as a visionary plant, supposedly this is true but the effects are by no means pleasant (nauseating/dizziness/sedating).
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Cocaine, don't even feel like doing it, got it offered so many times for free
Alcohol.. everyone think it's so good and all other drugs are bad :-) , yet it destroys your brain cells + liver/body, and makes you addicted
Weed, many people think it is so good, and psychedelics are bad/dangerous gamble with your mind
Brainwashing has worked good, always do own research
Psychedelics are a bit overrated too Meditation / lucid dreaming is just as good/better (lucid dreams have better visuals and mindfuck), but psychedelics are fun too (and very revealing, they can help you find yourself, possibly the most important thing in the world)
25i-nbome, that stuff is crap and dangerous - no mindtrip
No drug is without advantages/disadvantages, but most drugs are not bad in moderation
I like caffeine,beer,psychedelics(shrooms/lsd/salvia),(weed) , pretty good all of them :-) (weed I just have to moderate a lot to control use)
alcohol is the best social drug IMO , weed always makes me anxious when I smoke too much (inner space instead of outer space ;P) (but weed can be very good too in many settings, often better than alcohol... depends on set,setting) (and a miracle herb for many illnesses, the only trouble is it makes you inactive easily as it's easy to continue smoking until you can't move..) psychedelics are better motivators IMO, especially next day
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