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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
    #18858706 - 09/18/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I know about alcohol but who the hell rates tobacco highly?  Theres no longer ads of the marlboro man (he died of lung cancer btw) and almost every smoker wants to quit.

Alcohol is glorified but most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.






Of course Wiccan
...but instead of saying tobacco
lets say manufactured tobacco


because i honestly think that Nicotiana Rustica & Tabaccum in its
natural form are some of those most spiritual plants i know


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18858945 - 09/18/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18859083 - 09/18/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well rustica i believe is very powerful, one drag is like the content of 2 cigs nicotine.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18859105 - 09/18/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you uncontrollable empty your bowels immediately after?


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: fapjack]
    #18859109 - 09/18/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol whoever has not tried smoking cigarettes while taking a shit should do so


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18859144 - 09/18/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca



because its been used for thousands of years by natives
its been used by shamans for mystical visions


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18859224 - 09/18/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you know what else has been used for thousands of years by natives and shamans? water, shits spiritual yo


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: rulesq]
    #18859227 - 09/18/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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As much as I love it, I'm still gonna say cocaine




I completely agree. Soft coke and crack. Both overrated.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18859252 - 09/18/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your everyday pot smoker doesnt hype acid up too much, and the general public doesnt really understand it, its only people here and artists/comedians that hype acid up (And hippies obviously)

Most uninformed people think acid essentially has the effects of something like datura and as for the people who use it, they drop acid maybe a dozen times in a year.

I fail to see how acid is overrated. Maybe Wiccan Seeker misspelled MXE?

A guy can dream.....
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18859444 - 09/18/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca



because its been used for thousands of years by natives
its been used by shamans for mystical visions




Do you really get visions from tobacco? Someone told me that once and I thought they were lying


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18859673 - 09/18/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SeattleBlue said:
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JacksonMetaller said:
How is tobacco spiritual? Not debating, genuinely curious. My ayahuascero gave us "sacred coca leaves" and "sacred tobacco". I'll be honest I'm not sure I got why they would even be wasting those words on such things in the same room as two massive bottles of ayahuasca



because its been used for thousands of years by natives
its been used by shamans for mystical visions




Do you really get visions from tobacco? Someone told me that once and I thought they were lying



With Nicotiana Rustica you will
I havent smoked it myself, but from what im told its pretty strong


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18859684 - 09/18/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you know what else has been used for thousands of years by natives and shamans? water, shits spiritual yo



How wouldnt something like water be spiritual
its an essential factor in the humans evolution

and when i say spiritual, i mean plants that have played significant
parts in human history


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18860502 - 09/18/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so is hemlock and belladonna spiritual? they played pretty significant roles in human history.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18860595 - 09/18/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:africaface:


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18860608 - 09/18/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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so is hemlock and belladonna spiritual? they played pretty significant roles in human history.



Oh also, you forgot Mandrake (Atropane Alkaloids like Belladonna & Datura) which was mentioned several times
in some Shakespeare


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18860622 - 09/18/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i don't read shakespear, i didn't forget that lol. so you think deadly plants are spiritual?


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #18860633 - 09/18/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i don't read shakespear




You aren't missing much, really.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18860654 - 09/18/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Deliriants like Datura, Belladonna, etc
With the type of weird almost telekinesis that it gives a person
its for sure mysterious

...and really anything, especially a plant possessing chemicals like this
is very strange, which gives out spirtuality (for me anyways)because no one really
knows why

Anything, that has to do with the mysteries of life
for me is spirtual,

and SvS your right, pretty boring
i was just reading about Atropane containing plants and i found that little factoid


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
    #18860745 - 09/18/13 10:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.





right there you just disproved your point. tobacco is shitty, but it isn't
"overrated". its the lowest rated shit there is, nobody talks highly of tobacco.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Led Zeppelin] * 1
    #18860764 - 09/18/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wiccan's well-supported points tend to be little more than his sanctimoniousness passed off as some sort of widely-held opinion or irrefutable fact.


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