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Invisiblecycline
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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SurReality]
    #18856617 - 09/18/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

alcohol definitely.

But the other side of the coin is superior - there is nothing better than drinking 1-3 beers when coming down from hard trip.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: cycline]
    #18856619 - 09/18/13 02:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What about smoking some bud when coming down from a hard trip?


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18856626 - 09/18/13 02:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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lifeiswhatyoumake said:
What about smoking some bud when coming down from a hard trip?



cannabis doesn't ground me on the earth. I really enjoy the cold beer for max while coming down, to me there is no substitute for this.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: cycline]
    #18856651 - 09/18/13 03:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It looks like Alcohol and Cocaine are taking the lead, another vote for them two from me.
I have tried good cocaine once (out of the twenty something times I've done it) and it was brilliant but I've had so many horrible come-downs from shitty stamped blow that I could happily live the rest of my life in absence of it. I think that many people who become addicted to it must dislike themselves to constantly need that ego boost, still, I can understand tribesmen chewing coca and going hunting, that would be badass.
No need to explain why I think alcohol is overrated really is there.
Benzodiazepines have never done much for me, but I've never taken enough to properly experience the high.
Wormwood (Absynthe) is pretty cool and gives a clear-headed drunk high, but I don't know where all this business of the artists of the renaissance hallucinating comes from, it's never been visual for me... Pretty overrated really.
If you think MDMA is overrated then you've probably only ever tried weak ecstasy pills, I'm really not the type of person who would go to raves or clubbing, but I'll be the first to admit that there's no better drug for a social gathering.
I can't believe that LSD got mentioned, I respect Wiccan-Seeker's opinion but I enjoy it for the same reason you think it to be overrated, its like THE recreational halucinogen, so much fun.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: SeattleBlue]
    #18856771 - 09/18/13 05:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tobacco.
no contest.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: AstroCat]
    #18856908 - 09/18/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

alcohol and nicotine.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
    #18856930 - 09/18/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I know about alcohol but who the hell rates tobacco highly?  Theres no longer ads of the marlboro man (he died of lung cancer btw) and almost every smoker wants to quit.

Alcohol is glorified but most smokers agree that tobacco is one of their biggest mistakes in life.




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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
    #18856941 - 09/18/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nicotine without any doubt.  I gave up nicotine on March 12, 2008 and the addiction STILL fucks with my head to this day.  That's one awful drug.

Marijuana isn't that great either.  When I am not high I want to get high and with my tolerance build-up I don't get real high, just mellow, but not because I wanted it that way, but because it is all that you get.

Fuck alcohol while we are at it.  Fucked up drug that fucked up my life.  I'm glad I gave it up 29 years ago.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: mpd]
    #18856952 - 09/18/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mpd said:
I gave up nicotine on March 12, 2008 and the addiction STILL fucks with my head to this day.  That's one awful drug.





You can make it easier by reaffirming your decision periodically, to brush up on your reason to quit and to counter each thought about cigs with a motivation to stay quit. The stronger motivated you are the less it will nag.

Your lungs look like lungs again man, be glad.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
    #18856969 - 09/18/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone who says alcohol is lying.
Everyone who says caffeine has adhd.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18857032 - 09/18/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ModestMouse said:
Everyone who says alcohol is lying.
Everyone who says caffeine has adhd.



why lying? alcohol has one of the most stupid highs and yet is the global drug #1. that's overrated.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
    #18857042 - 09/18/13 08:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alcohol is pretty overrated by society. Yeah drinking is fun but everyone is like WOOOOOOOOOOO LETS GET DRUNK...its like yeah fuck no... you can enjoy your hangover and I'll have my 2 beers and a bowl, thanks...

Just last week I was out and about and sure enough 4 people I was with started throwing up because they got drunk

So between that and coke.... I'm not which one wins in a dumb drug.

I can't believe Wiccan said LSD. That drug is not overrated at all. :nonono:


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Asante]
    #18857080 - 09/18/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Alcohol is seemingly more glorified by it's users than tobacco, but users of both should be aware that it is toxic to the body. You've got to look at the numbers though, tobacco is still one of the most used drugs so on a consensus level it's still overrated.
I haven't seen any charts but I would presume that since knowledge of the dangers of smoking tobacco have been in the public domain the overall use of the drug by the populace would have plummeted. I have noticed that in society in general it has become rather un-cool to be a smoker these days, which of course is a good thing.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: moi]
    #18857090 - 09/18/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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moi said:
most stupid highs



:radman:

Alcohol is incredible. It's much more powerful than marijuana as far as effects go. If handled responsibly, the substance IS all that it's cracked up to be.
It's so incredible that it has it's own disease/addiction named after it.
I see nothing that indicates it is overrated.

Maybe you're using it wrong (getting loaded in your room by yourself). Yeah it's terrible for  that.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Uzziel]
    #18857111 - 09/18/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Uzziel said:

I can't believe Wiccan said LSD. That drug is not overrated at all. :nonono:




I know several people who would agree with him, myself included. LSD is the most overhyped psychedelic of all time. Keep in mind we're talking about OVERrated. That doesn't mean LSD isn't a great drug... but all the "i don't care to try x drug because nothing will ever be as good as good ol' lucy :rastamon:" sentiment is annoying as fuck imo. It's a good drug. It has some interesting cognitive effects. But it's not THAT great. The visuals are pretty mediocre for a psychedelic, the body high isn't that great, and the headspace is only fun situationally imo.

Most people who know how to properly brew cactus will say that mescaline blows LSD out of the water. Personally I would take a bulk of DMT over a bulk of LSD any day of the weak. Infinitely better visuals, crazy euphoria, extremely fun, "spiritual", whatever. A DMT breakthrough is like a straight shot into total perfection. And then as far as mushrooms go I find them a lot more "fun" than LSD.

And if you want to get into RC's there's just so much more to consider... 2c-b lacked the interesting cognitive aspects but was visually amazing and had an amazing body high. And 25i-nbome... goddamn. I heard everyone shit talk that drug so much so when I got it sold to me as LSD I was PISSED. Until about 20 minutes later when I was sent onto the most amazing trip of my life.

I will give LSD credit for it's ego-blending effects. In the right setting i have had some incredibly amazing experiences from it. But all around it's not that special. It's just another psychedelic with it's own slightly unique twist.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18857118 - 09/18/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can see where you're coming from, in the right environment it can be really enjoyable and a good remover of social boundarys, even so the fact still remains that the majority of people aren't responsible and do fucked up things to each other when under the influence of alcohol. I think most of us have at one time or another been an asshole when drunk, it does enhance the ego afterall.
To me it's no where near as powerful as cannabis, but we'd have to agree to disagree on that one.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: rakipo]
    #18857127 - 09/18/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rakipo said:
Also, from cannabis's cousin hemp you cant make just about anything you want and its all easily renewable.




seeing how hemp is sativa, id say hemps is more like cannabis's tall lanky brother, who has gone to a few N.A. meetings and has really gotten his life back on track, than a cousin


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: hidenseek1]
    #18857137 - 09/18/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ketamine. It's fun but it's nothing special.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: weshroom]
    #18858316 - 09/18/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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weshroom said:
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themusicofzann said:
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weshroom said:
Id say absinthe(wormwood).




it may be hyped as a drug, but as a beverage, you cannot find a better alcoholic drink to pair with any grilled meat with marinades or subtle flavoring.

Absinthe: Psychedelic? no. Better than normal alcohol? Hell yes. Delicious? you bet.

A thinking man's drink, if that isn't too contradictory for you.





Hmm interesting. I had some I suspect was absinthe one time but im not sure. I got it from a small mountain town in germany, the guy who sold it said it was made from grass (plants?) on the mountain and had the effects of lsd. COuld have been something else though, maybe made from sleepy grass. Still me and a friend split a bottle and didnt notice any psychedelic effects.

I would like to try absinthe more to see this pairing you describe. Im not much of a liquor connoisseur though.

But wormwood brewed into tea taste funky as hell.  Thats why they rub wormwood oil on babies thumbs so they will stop sucking.




IMHO Absinthe and grilled squid is the way to go. A friend of mine gets the 50lbers they get in the cortez and we slicem up and throwem in the slow cooker with the spices and vegetables to soften them up, then a few mins on the grille and done. grilled squid filets.


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Re: Most Overrated Drug? [Re: Eukaryote11]
    #18858662 - 09/18/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Eukaryote11 said:
Out of what I've tried, alcohol. I'm convinced it's only so popular (aside from it being one of only a few strong legal drugs) because it's popular




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