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ChurchMouth
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Should we trip?
#18846491 - 09/15/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all -
Considering the prevalence of mental health issues in our society (probably resulting from stress/ trauma) should we be worried about the fragility of our brains and be protective of our current reality? Should we be risking ourselves for the sake of a fun trip, or abit of perspective gained on life.
After a few mushroom trips which felt like insanity, I have been left with the uneasy feeling that 'being crazy' is the most lonely and horrible existence. Movies like inception, butterfly effect etc make me uneasy of the thought that nobody around you may be original or everything could be a figment of your imagination.
Now I am still drawn towards mushrooms for the interesting and fun aspect of them, but I am questioning whether it is really worth it considering I am seeing evidence of irrational, habit controlled and damaged people every day.
Please discuss.
Regards,
Churchmouth.
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Enslyn



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ChurchMouth said: Considering the prevalence of mental health issues in our society (probably resulting from stress/ trauma) should we be worried about the fragility of our brains and be protective of our current reality?
No, in fact I think it's good to use psychedelics and realize that our reality is different than we probably think it is. Imagine if everyone in the world suddenly took acid all at once and realized that war, poverty, and other problems could be fixed if we all just stopped focusing on ourselves.
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Should we be risking ourselves for the sake of a fun trip, or abit of perspective gained on life.
There's not many risks from psychedelics if you understand what you're getting yourself into and don't try to resist.
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Nobody around you may be original or everything could be a figment of your imagination.
Well, this could be real. I think it's good to at least think about and be open to these possibilities, but not dwell on them.
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I am questioning whether it is really worth it considering I am seeing evidence of irrational, habit controlled and damaged people every day.
Again, psychedelics generally don't cause this kind of behavior unless used by people in irresponsible ways. In fact, when used properly, they can cure this exact kind of behaviour.
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flickedbic
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You see irrational, habit-controlled creatures every day.
Sounds like a good reason to dose to me. Break the habitual irrationality.
Your brain is not so fragile; it is actually plastic, so if you are really speaking about yourself and fears of past damages becoming a risk I would say go for it. I have uncovered past trauma on mushroom and integrated it for great healing.
The same plasticity is true of your current "reality", which is actually more like your current "reality tunnel".
Play with reality tunnel filters, mix it up... experiment and find what works for you.
Have fun seeing from a new perspective, you just may bring something useful back as well.
However;
IF THE DAMAGE IS A DIAGNOSED MENTAL ILLNESS; OR IF YOU HAVE FAMILY HISTORY OF SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS THAN PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL - Meditation would (in this case) be a safer route.
-------------------- Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order: 1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine 2)Amanita (urine drank twice) 3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose) 4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators) 5)Salvia (need to try quid)
All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
Edited by flickedbic (09/15/13 09:57 PM)
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Into The Woods
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Maybe you're feeling that you should lay off psychedelics for a while, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to.
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ChurchMouth said: Now I am still drawn towards mushrooms for the interesting and fun aspect of them, but I am questioning whether it is really worth it considering I am seeing evidence of irrational, habit controlled and damaged people every day.
What evidence are you talking about that suggests people become irrational, habit controlled and damaged from taking mushrooms?
If anything, used responsibly, a psychedelic experience can help to address these issues in people, rather than cause them.
It reads to me like you're feeling that you need to take a break. Consider whether you're using psychedelics, or abusing them.
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Bawks
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I've never seen or heard of anyone negatively affected by mushrooms. All I hear are stories about how someone's friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend's cousin's mother's boyfriend's dog's previous owner's gardener's brother-in-law ended up turning into a glass of orange juice because he ate 10 ounces of mushrooms when he already had schizophrenia.
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Into The Woods
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Re: Should we trip? [Re: Bawks]
#18847078 - 09/15/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't forget the one about the guy who snorted acid, fried his brain and thought he was a cow for the rest of his life.
All he ever said again was "mooo"...
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ATTA
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I am all okay with the plants..... LSD, although one of the most eye opening parts of my life.... is a man made drug.... where as a cactus, or mushrooms are natural.... and I would have to say be more natural for us....
The guy is right in saying if we all got cactus together then we would all be able to feel that connectedness, who knows... we could elevate the consciousness of the entire world.... even call in the universe....
How else can you break down the invisible walls that are build within us??
-------------------- St Peter Has the Keys to Heaven.... find the torch to light the path to the bridge where the two realms meet..... http://www.soundcloud.com/at-tr
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ATTA
Water



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Into The Woods said: Maybe you're feeling that you should lay off psychedelics for a while, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to.
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ChurchMouth said: Now I am still drawn towards mushrooms for the interesting and fun aspect of them, but I am questioning whether it is really worth it considering I am seeing evidence of irrational, habit controlled and damaged people every day.
What evidence are you talking about that suggests people become irrational, habit controlled and damaged from taking mushrooms?
If anything, used responsibly, a psychedelic experience can help to address these issues in people, rather than cause them.
It reads to me like you're feeling that you need to take a break. Consider whether you're using psychedelics, or abusing them.
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Into The Woods said: Maybe you're feeling that you should lay off psychedelics for a while, but that doesn't mean everyone else needs to.
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ChurchMouth said: Now I am still drawn towards mushrooms for the interesting and fun aspect of them, but I am questioning whether it is really worth it considering I am seeing evidence of irrational, habit controlled and damaged people every day.
What evidence are you talking about that suggests people become irrational, habit controlled and damaged from taking mushrooms?
If anything, used responsibly, a psychedelic experience can help to address these issues in people, rather than cause them.
It reads to me like you're feeling that you need to take a break. Consider whether you're using psychedelics, or abusing them.
I like to think of them as an amplifier..... if you have some disturbance resonating in your being.... taking any kind of drug will generally amplify it.....
as we all know... "the drunken brawler" etc.... how dirty that drug is, alcohol.... anyway... if you are a bit of a pure type inside... you have no rubbish in your centred qui.... then ingesting amplification to the source generally goes like plugging god directly into your being....
"Prepare the house" so when I knock I will come and dine with you....
It also means try to keep the house clean, and free from rubbish....
People blame drugs for their problems... and their "mental disorders" the only thing that drugs did was bring them up to the surface... so its easier to get them out!!
-------------------- St Peter Has the Keys to Heaven.... find the torch to light the path to the bridge where the two realms meet..... http://www.soundcloud.com/at-tr
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TwinEclipse
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Re: Should we trip? [Re: ATTA]
#18847861 - 09/16/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Using hallucinogenics(even marijuana) can cause serious, irreversible mental damage if your genetics are prone to schizophrenia. Check your family history. That's all I can come up on the subject.
For others, psychedelics Are an amazing ride.
-------------------- My purpose: to love, to share, and to experience....all while conforming to my psychedelic experiences.
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Agentchewy
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Oh you disagree with capitalist slavery? You must be schizo, your brain is fried bro, here take some of this xanax and or Prozac, merica!
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HarryL
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Mental health issues are not something new. They have always been part of the human experience.
And the use of mind altering substances predates pretty much everything you can name, outside or eating and pooping.
But to make an assumption that psychedelics would be making humanities mental problems worse is without any support or evidence. To the contrary, there is good evidence that both MdMA and psilocybin may be able to help people with PTSD and other mental issues.
Now, if only we could get rid of religion.... Probably cure half of all mental problems and stop many wars!
Just my 2 cents
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themusicofzann
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Re: Should we trip? [Re: HarryL]
#18848537 - 09/16/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Decide for yourself. I have no major mental health issues. So I will probably not stop until that has changed.
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    The above is hypothetical, when it is illegal. Psychedelics are performance enhancers for the philosopher. Knowledge and wisdom are one and the same.
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ShadeOfDeepPurple


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Should I? Yes. Should you? ...
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