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fungaltrik
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Are these fruits contaminated?
#18845991 - 09/15/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking to see what this darkish color is, swim can't determine if it's blue or green.
I'm thinking it's likely trich, but swim hasn't ever experienced contamination growing on fruits before.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18846066 - 09/15/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No need to swim here. I grow mushrooms. I eat mushrooms. I run red lights. 
By the way, you didn't post pics.
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Dreaming Nomad said: No need to swim here. I grow mushrooms. I eat mushrooms. I run red lights. 
By the way, you didn't post pics.
Running red lights is illegal!!!
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#18846114 - 09/15/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Any off-white or grey mycelium growing on the fruits or substrate? Something that doesn't quite look the same as the surrounding cake? Is it a recent development or has it looked funny for a while? Pictures would be helpful. Could probably answer some of my nagging questions.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: FruitOfLife]
#18846118 - 09/15/13 08:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18846136 - 09/15/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are fucked my friend!
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18846154 - 09/15/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't really tell from the picture quality, but there are definitely parts that are contaminated. Most likely trich if it happened recently, if it showed a little while it was colonizing the mono it might be penicillium
What are your routines and conditions with the monotub? Looks a bit funk to me, but what do I know?
Best bet to be absolutely positive is to take a q-tip and swab the green/blue portion to see if it wipes off, tell us if there's anything on the cotton, but it's most likely gone.
On second thought, if anything shows on the q-tip; chuck it before your grow area gets covered in it.
Edit: On third thought, ^ what he said.
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Edited by Leper (09/15/13 08:21 PM)
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: Leper]
#18846190 - 09/15/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No routine, just lights on timer and a fan blowing in the room. Room temp at 75. The tub has only been opened to mix the substrate and spawn, and duct tape over the holes removed to stuff polyfill at 100% colonization.
Humidity looks a bit over saturated to my knowledge, but what do you think?
I'll see what can be found about the q-tip and report back.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18846252 - 09/15/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you could get a real good close up would be better..also you can always upload it on here from your computer that way we the picture just appears decent size and just click to full size.
Anyway It possible looks like something I had it was just one part on a BRF cake and I just let it go and it all turned out fine and actually rubbed it off on the 2nd rinse but I could be totally wrong since your doing a different style. Just a possibility.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: Mushyy]
#18846287 - 09/15/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was there a humidity gauge inside of the monotub that could tell you? Optimum range is 95-99% humidity. It looks a little wet in there from the picture, but I couldn't tell you if you're doing it right or wrong.
Mushyy, you let a contam go on a BRF cake? If it was sporulating, chances are the mycelium of the contam already had a hold on the substrate. If it was trich, you didn't get rid of it by rinsing it off, it's a fungicidal mold. Maybe it was some bruising if the cake turned out fine.
I'm hoping for the latter!
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Edited by Leper (09/15/13 08:54 PM)
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: Leper]
#18846532 - 09/15/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leper said: I can't really tell from the picture quality, but there are definitely parts that are contaminated. Most likely trich if it happened recently, if it showed a little while it was colonizing the mono it might be penicillium
What are your routines and conditions with the monotub? Looks a bit funk to me, but what do I know?
Best bet to be absolutely positive is to take a q-tip and swab the green/blue portion to see if it wipes off, tell us if there's anything on the cotton, but it's most likely gone.
On second thought, if anything shows on the q-tip; chuck it before your grow area gets covered in it.
Edit: On third thought, ^ what he said.
Q-tip test doesn't help ID anything, as Mold spores can not cling to the Qtip, while bruising can wipe off.
I'd recommend getting that tub out immediately from your grow area. It's difficult to tell what kind of mold you have growing in there, but some of your mushrooms definitely caught a case of the mold.
Best bet would be to pick everything and get the ones outside that have any sign of mold on them. I'd suggest getting some closer and cleaner pictures of any mushrooms you're not sure if they're clean or not. Any mushroom without mold growing on it will be ok to consume.
Edit: I can say for sure it's not Trich, as it's not the correct color. Trich also very rarely goes for the mushrooms if their is fresh substrate to munch on first, since Trich consumes Mushroom Myc. The amount of time it takes from spore < Myc < Sporlate is longer then the amount that just about any mushroom would take to grow. This is why we see it florish on the substrate.
Edited by Jimmyhunter1000 (09/15/13 09:52 PM)
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Perhaps a Penicillium of some kind. Q-tip tests usually help for me when I'm on the fence about unusual bruising. Trich wipes right off when it's sporulating.
But yeah, take that tub out, pick the ones that don't look or feel too funky and scrub that tub down.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: Leper]
#18846776 - 09/15/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've seen plenty of times over in the Contamination Forum where people have tried the Qtip on Trich with no results. I've also seen it happen in person where bruising wiped off one of my friend's cakes. Then when he had no luck trying to fruit it after a week, it caught the mean green. Curiousity got the best of me and I tested it, and I saw no green on the Qtip.
Although RR also debunked this a while ago where it isn't a reliable test. I'd certainly take his word on that one.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: blojo02184]
#18847007 - 09/15/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fungaltrik said: thanks, here's a link http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/w2j7.jpg/
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blojo02184 said: Those are fucked my friend!
Has anyone here ever grown PE?
Those are blobs that have overly matured and are starting to bruise/rot.
I see no contamination on the substrate, only on fruits, and only on blobs....
Further more the Q-Tip test has been debunked like 10 years ago, as tissue wipes off too and bruises, creating a false positive.
I see no mold in that tub.....just a healthy blob flush....but anything is possible I guess.....
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: PussyFart]
#18847071 - 09/15/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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fungaltrik said: thanks, here's a link http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/w2j7.jpg/
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blojo02184 said: Those are fucked my friend!
Has anyone here ever grown PE?
Those are blobs that have overly matured and are starting to bruise/rot.
I see no contamination on the substrate, only on fruits, and only on blobs....
Further more the Q-Tip test has been debunked like 10 years ago, as tissue wipes off too and bruises, creating a false positive.
I see no mold in that tub.....just a healthy blob flush....but anything is possible I guess.....

Seriously, guys? Wow. Holy fucking terrible responses 
That's a great looking PE blob flush. Pick them and enjoy. They are potent and edible.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (09/16/13 12:17 AM)
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I'm cool with being wrong
 It's how we learn, right?
That and using the search function. Rocky first night back (;
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: Leper]
#18849462 - 09/16/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didn't know about blob flushes, but this is why we've come to the boards. Yes these are PE, the first time grow experience for this strain and the first thought I personally had was bruising or trich, only trich because I couldn't seem to determine if it was green or blue.
A q-tip test didn't really wipe anything off, but when a lot of pressure was applied more like digging at the fruit, some dark blue matter came off which I would guess is bruised tissue from a healthy fruit.
So would you pick these babies (considering they are not contaminated) now, or let them further mature? I found some other "blob" results on the boards, and really it does look like some others I've seen which is quite pleasing. Just worried about my own ignorance.
These pictures really are the best retrievable as they blur at a closer distance or zoom. A picture of the q-tip result is also provided.
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18849481 - 09/16/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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PS. That one fruit with a lower stem, and another stem growing out of the cap is gnarly! The world of fungus is quite interesting
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18852915 - 09/17/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a close up of a couple blobs that were hard to determine green or blue, and no wonder because I see both colors. However, this green doesn't appear to be mold. What do you guys think?
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Re: Are these fruits contaminated? [Re: fungaltrik]
#18853179 - 09/17/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fungaltrik said: Here's a close up of a couple blobs that were hard to determine green or blue, and no wonder because I see both colors. However, this green doesn't appear to be mold. What do you guys think?

they will bruise bluish/green look good be careful start with a dry gram of straight blobs
i ate a gram of blobs and it rocked my world
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