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OfflineCpt.Crunch
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Growing in an Apt?
    #18844887 - 09/15/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Would you ever grow in an Apt??

In my town there are a few Apts.

I was thinking about moving into one of them, but i'm not sure if its a good idea to grow there.


My old pot dealer from high school lived in these apartments and right when you walk in his front room had all types of paraphernalia such as jars full of hemp, bongs, scale, and it always wreaked of pot in his room.

Does the fact that he didn't ever get caught mean its safe for me to grow mushies in these appts?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18844897 - 09/15/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ive grown in an apt for years.

Just cause someone else didnt gt caught doesnt mean your safe.  Make sure of your safety and dont tell a soul about your grow and you will b safer than alot of people.  Loose lips sink ships

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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18844958 - 09/15/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That depends on your landlord and neighbors. If you've got the kind of landlord you never see, then it's cool. If he wants to come in and bullshit once a month when he collects rent or does inspections for whatever reason, then evaluate that carefully.

Also keep in mind your neighbors seeing you bringing supplies in and out, and being able to hear/smell (while cooking grain) your operation.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #18844999 - 09/15/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you can get away with anything you want aslong as you are discreet about it.

you should be fine. id just change the locks on your bedroom door to something you bought with a key incase maintenance guys come thru when your not home.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: nepter627]
    #18845044 - 09/15/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you can get away with anything you want aslong as you are discreet about it.

you should be fine. id just change the locks on your bedroom door to something you bought with a key incase maintenance guys come thru when your not home.




Awful advice. Usually, changing locks will be against your lease. They WILL get a locksmith in there to open any locked door that they need to.

Just judge the landlord. If you can't do it, you just can't do it. Not worth it when there's a high chance of getting caught.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #18845114 - 09/15/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I still say this kid is a Leo fishing here.

His latest posts are "how many tubs have you done?"
And "can you grow shrooms in an apt, can you get caught?"

And just so I'm not completely trolling here, yes, grow shrooms in an apt. The actual key lock on an interior door is a good idea in case maintenance comes through and happens to be nosy. Unless they have a direct need to get in that room, they won't bother.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: maddchef]
    #18845153 - 09/15/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Changing locks is usually against the lease, but I do it with every bedroom door in any house I've rented before.  I just explain that I have had every single possession of mine stolen from me, twice, before I did so.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18845271 - 09/15/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think changing the locks would draw a lot of suspicion to myself,

And I would bring in all materials like a 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. when nobody's awake as quietly as possible.

I just wanna get out of this house already.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18845308 - 09/15/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have loud parties or get cpos called on you regularly for being loud or otherwise conspicuous? If you have have a tendency to be visited by the "authorities" a lot, I wouldn't do it.

When it comes to privacy outside of the scope of the five-oh, unless you're an ignorant asshole, it's pretty hard to get searched or have someone accidentally figure out you're doing something like that. They can't enter your apartment without a 24h notice even for maintenance, so apartment management shouldn't be an issue ever. Cops can't search your place unless you let them in and they see something or they have a warrant, which you shouldn't be cultivating with one in the first place.

If you have a lot of company, it's only an issue if you can't conceal it in a closet or a room. The other thing to consider is how much noise your setup makes, likely not enough to attract any undue attention, and how much light it produces, which shouldn't an issue either.

This is a rather easy to conceal hobby because a lot of the necessities are also used for everyday household things such as plumbing, cooking, gardening, and household maintenance, and there's almost never any smell to worry about.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: LTSwoomz]
    #18845323 - 09/15/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There's plenty of smell when you're cooking grain. And pressure cookers are very loud. That high-pitched rattle will travel farther than you think.


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If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more.

Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #18845349 - 09/15/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Jeez don't change the locks on the apartment itself crunch, just on the room you use to cultivate. Buy a doorknob at homedepot, a Phillips head screwdriver, and you're all set.
And most pressure cookers I own are relatively silent, save for a small hiss now and then.

The grain smell is less suspicious than someone smoking reefer in their living room and plenty of people in apts do that.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: maddchef]
    #18845373 - 09/15/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Mad, smells like bacon or an attempt at shitty gonzo journalism.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: tbagtag]
    #18845524 - 09/15/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the best way to be incognito is to not get greedy and/or stupid. Keep your operation simple and private.

A neighbor I had asked me one time what I was cooking. I happen to be PCing some rye and stepped out to take the garbage and she was coming out at the same time. I said I was trying to make some homebrew.

I asked if the smell bothered her and she said she only noticed because she saw my PC on the stove when I opened the door. She never smelled or heard anything.

As far as I know, there are no tell-tale signs of mushroom cultivation if you are making an honest attempt at secrecy.

It is not hard to be stealth if you keep your scale small. I can't think of any sounds, sights, or smells that would draw attention on its own unless you were constantly growing a lot.

I have a lock on my interior grow room door. My scale is small enough to easily hide/conceal. The lock on my grow room is primarily for when I have guests. The landlord is required to give 24 hour notice except in an emergency.

If you have a sketchy landlord or want to grow big, you might be better off moving somewhere else.

One day, I would like to grow commercially, but for now, I realize where I live and scale accordingly in an apartment.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18845551 - 09/15/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You could always just grow stones :shrug:


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18845581 - 09/15/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

paranoia will give you away in any situation.

just go about your business and no one should bother you.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18845693 - 09/15/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You could always just grow stones :shrug:




I'm just trying to grow gourmets.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18845696 - 09/15/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

psillyshroomer said:
You could always just grow stones :shrug:




I'm just trying to grow gourmets.




Aren't we all??


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18845730 - 09/15/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wait you're growing gourmet and you're paranoid?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18845737 - 09/15/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think they're being sarcastic.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18845745 - 09/15/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The only actives that are being grown here are actively delicious. Would you care for an oddly conical 100% tobacco cigarette my friend?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18845754 - 09/15/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly! They're all "edibles" :lol:


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18845785 - 09/15/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly! They're all "edibles" :lol:


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18845802 - 09/15/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not particularly paranoid, or maybe I am.

It seems that anytime I try to bring up mushrooms in conversation, it's assumed that I grow the illegal kind.

I'mnot worried about getting in trouble because I'm doing nothing illegal. I just don't want the hassle of having to defend myself to my landlord or anyone else.

To be honest, I'm not sure if my landlord would like the idea of cultivation. You know how people are.

Many public wi-fi hotspots won't even let you visit the shroomery website because it's considered a known drug website. What kind of shit is that? Knowbody here deals drugs. And mushroom cultivation is only a part of what this website is all about.

But, that's the kind of world we live in and so I keep my hobby to myself until I get my own property. I really just don't want to have to explain myself to my landlord or anyone else.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18845850 - 09/15/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The only actives that are being grown here are actively delicious. Would you care for an oddly conical 100% tobacco cigarette my friend?





actively delicious!!!

lol


cant wait to get my shiitake and oysters to grow.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18845924 - 09/15/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys think the Main officer would keep track of the electricity usage going on in my room?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: nepter627]
    #18845928 - 09/15/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ummmmm.


OP
  Yes you can grow in an Apt. No you don't need to change the locks. You only need to get a really mean dog.


  Who the hell cares if maintenance comes by, they have to notify you three days before entering your APT. Also, if they find anything suspicious it is considered illegal search and seizure, and you are off the hook. Constitution says you need a warrant.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Sockadin]
    #18845955 - 09/15/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What about the Electricity Usage thing?

Do you think they may catch on that way?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18845966 - 09/15/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cultivating mushrooms uses very very little electricity


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18845996 - 09/15/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Guys, nobody knows what mushrooms are or look like anywhere I've ever lived.  Christ, I got pulled over one time with an LB of dry cubes in a sack sitting beside me on the front seat.  If you hide anything, it's going to attract attention.  Terrariums should be right out in the open in front of everyone.  They're just mushrooms for crying out loud.  Your grandma sent you a kit for your birthday.

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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18846019 - 09/15/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you guys think the Main officer would keep track of the electricity usage going on in my room?




So what if they did. How much electricity do you think you'll use?

Look at your electric bill or contact the electric company to find out how much they charge per KWh.

The math goes like this:

(cost per KWh) x (bulb watts x .001) x (hours used per day) x (days per month)
Multiply the bulb wattage by .001 to convert it to KW.

Example:

If your utility company charges $.095 per KWh, you have 1 bulb at 32 watts running 12 hours a day for 30 days, then,

(.095) x (32 x .001) x (12) x (30)= 1.09

This set up will cost $1.09. Not noticeable on your meter.

This math works on anything with a known wattage and amount of use.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18846354 - 09/15/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Guys, nobody knows what mushrooms are or look like anywhere I've ever lived.  Christ, I got pulled over one time with an LB of dry cubes in a sack sitting beside me on the front seat.  If you hide anything, it's going to attract attention.  Terrariums should be right out in the open in front of everyone.  They're just mushrooms for crying out loud.  Your grandma sent you a kit for your birthday.

Remember, attention is always drawn to what we try to draw it away from.
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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18847593 - 09/16/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Sockadin]
    #18847600 - 09/16/13 04:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Who the hell cares if maintenance comes by, they have to notify you three days before entering your APT. Also, if they find anything suspicious it is considered illegal search and seizure, and you are off the hook. Constitution says you need a warrant.





It is not illegal. If they are in your house legally, which if given a notice they are, and they see or smell anything they can report it to the cops. The cops then get a warrant and come pay a visit. Nothing illegal about that. Illegal search and seizure is when the cops roll in with no warrant. Not when a maintenance guy suspects something and calls the cops.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Grizzskull]
    #18847638 - 09/16/13 04:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but the cops would need proof beyond reasonable suspicion to get a warrant from a judge. The maintenance guy saying," Um I don't know what it was but they look suspicious in those tubs with holes."  Is not enough to even investigate, much less try and get a warrant.

I grew in a town for about 1 year and live above a cop, and across the street from another in our apartment building. Can you imagine trying to hide all that vermiculite>......


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Sockadin]
    #18847728 - 09/16/13 05:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Barely anyone knows what supplies you need to grow mushrooms. Most people won't even question you bringing stuff into your house for the grow. People aren't going to look at you and automatically think that you are doing illegal shit. Just act normal about it, and no one will question you. Act with purpose and like you're doing nothing out of the ordinary. For the grow spot itself, pick somewhere people wouldn't just stumble upon it. I agree with RR, if you go about hiding it, and someone finds it, they will automatically think that there is something bad going on. Something that appears like you are not hiding is easier to explain.


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18847770 - 09/16/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Guys, nobody knows what mushrooms are or look like anywhere I've ever lived.  Christ, I got pulled over one time with an LB of dry cubes in a sack sitting beside me on the front seat.  If you hide anything, it's going to attract attention.  Terrariums should be right out in the open in front of everyone.  They're just mushrooms for crying out loud.  Your grandma sent you a kit for your birthday.

Remember, attention is always drawn to what we try to draw it away from.
RR





ive been pulled over with a half oz of cubes the cop said what are these mushrooms?

i saidd yes sir i got them at the smoke shop. he made me throw them out


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: nepter627]
    #18847773 - 09/16/13 05:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well did you go back and get them?


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18847805 - 09/16/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nah i had to stomp them to a fine powder


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: nepter627]
    #18847813 - 09/16/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought it was hilarious when I went into a local hardware store and was walking around and somewhere within the store I seen by a stack of WBS 3 cases of masons a PC and a tube of RTV.  I was wondering what got the person shock that they left with out there purchase


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Re: Growing in an Apt? [Re: nepter627]
    #18847817 - 09/16/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Grains create a smell yes but not an unnatural or peculiar one. Easily identified and dismissed as food which it is. PCs can indeed create noise but it's not that bad, certainly not enough to create undue attention. You're good man.


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