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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: psi]
    #18844014 - 09/15/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Something inside of the intellegance corps is what I would have preferred but now it would be extremely difficult to get there because of the beauracracy and you need 4 months to take various tests before you get accepted so its too late. Besides that maybe a soldier teacher, which is a job where you live in a boarding school and help the kids with homework and do activities every so often and stuff like that. Maybe an fighter jet technician. There's thousands upon thousands of jobs in the IDF apart from what I know and there is definitely some that I would be happy in, not be a waste of time and even possibly help me in the future.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18844017 - 09/15/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I technically volunteered to do the army and am now getting fucked and regret the decision if nothing changes.



So being in the military is shitty huh? Never saw that one coming :rolleyes:

What possessed you to volunteer? Was it a dare? Lose a bet? Were you drunk at the time?



Being in the military is mandatory in Israel


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18844026 - 09/15/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I technically volunteered to do the army and am now getting fucked and regret the decision if nothing changes.



So being in the military is shitty huh? Never saw that one coming :rolleyes:

What possessed you to volunteer? Was it a dare? Lose a bet? Were you drunk at the time?




Almost all of my immediate family moved here. Almost all of my friends are here.

I didn't blindly draft and say here I am take me. I did different programs that are supposed to help lone soldiers like myself into getting a job better fit for them. No one so far has been able to help me in my situation.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18844036 - 09/15/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

In answer to your original question, I have talked to a couple people from Israel on here in the ethno garden forum. The OP of this thread lives there apparently:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18823456/page/1


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18844120 - 09/15/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I technically volunteered to do the army and am now getting fucked and regret the decision if nothing changes.



So being in the military is shitty huh? Never saw that one coming :rolleyes:

What possessed you to volunteer? Was it a dare? Lose a bet? Were you drunk at the time?




I don't know, maybe he wanted to, you know, serve the country that has given him so much. Crazy concept, I know.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: psi]
    #18844121 - 09/15/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you, I'll send him a message.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: setb] * 1
    #18844288 - 09/15/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I technically volunteered to do the army and am now getting fucked and regret the decision if nothing changes.



So being in the military is shitty huh? Never saw that one coming :rolleyes:

What possessed you to volunteer? Was it a dare? Lose a bet? Were you drunk at the time?




I don't know, maybe he wanted to, you know, serve the country that has given him so much. Crazy concept, I know.



Plant trees. Work at the national power plant. Volunteer at a medical marijuana farm or dispensary, I hear they're picking up in Israel. Become a doctor, teacher or any other profession that's useful for the community and/or country, as you call it. Become a Na Nach and spread techno-joy to the people, from your awesome techno van. Anything that doesn't involve becoming a trained murderer. That would have been my approach at least.

Anyway I'm having some trouble understanding this concept of volunteering for something that's mandatory anyway. Sucks for you OP, if you happen to be in a country with mandatory military service. I hope you find a safe way out of it asap.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18844567 - 09/15/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I was born in Israel, my family moved to america when I was 9 months old. I live in america till I was 15 when I moved to a boarding school in Israel for international students. I specifically asked them if I would need to do the army after I finish highschool because of my Israeli citizenship, seems like they just wanted me to come to the school so said I would not need to.

12 grade comes and I realize I was lied to and now my brother and sister moved to Israel.

I could have went back to America but then I would not be able to be back in Israel for a minimum of 7 years. my mom has now moved go Israel and my grandparents have been.

most of my friends from the boarding school stayed to do the army.

so now I'm in this conundrum, leave the country and leave my family and friends for what will most likely be forever or join the army.
I decide the army.

now I realize I don't see them enough to make it worth my while, and could be doing something useful in my life cause the unit I am in really seems useless.

that is why if I was in another unit if might be more useful and more time to see my loved ones. there are plenty of jobs that even let you go home everyday. some are also a waste of time if not most but there are plenty that are amazing jobs.

that is how I am technically a volunteer.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18844882 - 09/15/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I was in a past life.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #18845300 - 09/15/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I thought it was only two years of service, but eh I don't know much.  It sounds like you're stuck in this squad, maybe try to negotiate for only staying in for so long then seeing about a transfer. My friend was in the Idf through Nifty I believe.


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    #18845988 - 09/15/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: scruffymafia] * 2
    #18846995 - 09/15/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

How do you say that your part of the IDF and not expect it to turn into a political discussion?


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: scruffymafia]
    #18847492 - 09/16/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Be thankful you're not being forced to murder children
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not yet


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18847529 - 09/16/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

WOW OP, i feel for you, wish i could help.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18847575 - 09/16/13 03:52 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I was born in Israel, my family moved to america when I was 9 months old.




Maybe they reserve the best jobs for those born, bred, and raised in Israel.
Possibly second or third generation Israelite's are given preferential treatment.

The fact that you come from the obese dog, wagged by the docked Israeli tail, doesn't count for fuck all in the scheme of things. :shrug:


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #18847602 - 09/16/13 04:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OK I see your point but no not exactly. before you draft you take some tests and have interviews and based on that you get "grades". they check basically logic and stuff like that. I got almost the highest grades on both and still got stuck in this shitty ass unit.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18847621 - 09/16/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I got almost the highest grades on both and still got stuck in this shitty ass unit.





Which is why I made such an assumption.

Do you know of others that got assigned to better "units" that were not Israeli born and bred?

I wish you well, and may the time pass quickly untill you can get back to your preferred way of life.
Good luck.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: healing]
    #18847672 - 09/16/13 04:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Each cog is just as important as any other in the murder machine.

It doesn't matter what unit you're in. You're still wasting three years of your life, as well as the entire lives of many innocent people, children and stuff.




You are only able to be saying this, because some time long ago some one was killed for the land you now live in. Like all land in all of history.
Be a little more respectful of world history before you start spewing nonsense.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #18847826 - 09/16/13 06:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

yeah my friend who came to Israel the same year I did has an amazing job. he was a lot more qualified so Im not complaining about not getting the same job as him although I would have probably liked it a lot.

he's pretty much a genius, graduated high school at age 17, came to Israel and instead of doing army right away he went to college. having a degree before the army in Israel is pretty rare so it makes him more valuable. he's been in the army a week longer than me and is already the equivalent of the first officers rank I think while I am still a private.

besides that yeah I know more average people from the states getting good jobs like I prefer.

is there something that's the opposite of karma? get a lot of shit at a younger age and have it all re-payed when I'm older lol? cause I was never really bad.. I don't know why I keep getting screwed.


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Re: any israelis here? need army help.. [Re: acapuchinu]
    #18847830 - 09/16/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

and now its getting even worse. I'm started to legit lose my shit and have had two hearings in the past two days cause I can't take this place anymore and I'm started to act up.


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