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    #18844859 - 09/15/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My guide and journal how to grow peyote and other lophophora cacti from seed.


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Hello fellow cactus enthusiasts. This is my first good success lophophora cultivation from seed.

I buy'd seeds as name of lophophora williamsii v. pentagona and v. koehresii. At the moment I don't know for sure what side there is what but I have sow them like the way that koehresii are at another side and pentagona are at another side.

Growing medium has been first sand, coconut coir, soil, perlite, pumice, and various rocks and small amount of crushed eggshells. I use 10Watt heating pad with timer and now they are under 125Watt fluoro light. First months till this months they has been getting random direct sun about 30minutes and living at table where window has given them shady but good place where is light.

First of all, I have never succeed so much what comes with germinating and keeping seedlings alive now when I use heating pad and miniature greenhouse.

This is the greenhouse I use. It has worked very good and when I buy'd it heating pad comes with the greenhouse. Lophophora tray are about 30cm x 20cm


I have done plastic tray myself where is growing medium about 3cm(+1inch) ..Later when seedlings has getting older at age of 3months or so, I have sow sand and some soil to surface of them. Also I have once sprayed very small amount of fertilized water with NPK value of 0-4-8 and once with nitrogen fertilizer. I use rain water to them and keep them now few days without spraying water at all and about once per week I give them water "shower" of rain water. I will grown these over winter under artificial lights and heat pad cause of sowing of seeds was late date and first dormancy they will going to get after 2014 season.

Temperatures inside the greenhouse are about +35-40C at day time, they got now 14hours day and 10hours night. I have moved them few days ago under 125Watt 2500K fluoro bulb cause of saving space.

I am trying to update there pictures every month or later when I see necessary I take pics and show close pics and pics from total. There has been few rotted seedlings and I don't have count them but as far as I see this project, it's going okay. They got last night(14th of September) rainwater spray after being dry for a while.

When winter comes, I turn probably these to some kind of small dormancy with still heat pad on but imitating the light cycle maybe dropping it to 10hours per day.. Possible 12/12hours light cycle and maybe before spring I keep them dry and shut down heat pad and keep them one month without water and heat, only giving short day like 10-12hours.. This is just a plan and doesn't know will I do that or do I give their first winter after summer of 2014. Possible drying these when they are over 6months and giving cold period without water for month ain't bad idea in my mind to imitate nature.. Also Probably next summer I show these direct sun light but only very small amount or filtered sun. But enough of it.. If project goes good as I have planned as it has been good project, I hope I get nice plants after next growing season.

There is littlebit over one year old peyote plants grown from my seeds with lack of water and fertilizers. These are very hard grown without any heat support and only two survivors from dozens of seeds. Now with heat pads "sudden rot deaths" has not happened actually so much, maybe one or two.

Actually some seedlings are as big as these one but they have not similar "adult" color on skin and these young ones tap root are 3-4cm long. Now these are growing above heat pad and will going to get their first dormant this winter. So for compare I have these specimens seed grown without any extra heat support and so on, button size is small but size of roots are fine and when I repot these, they had delightful tap root.

Wish me luck with this seedling tray!:eskimokiss:

There is first pics taken at 30th day of June.


These pictures are taken at 30th day of July.


Pics from 19th day of August. After these pics I have "sow" new soil to surface to support them.


And pictures I took today at 15th day of September. At this point I have sow big grain sand and fertile soil on top of the original soil. New layer are about 2-3mm thick and new soil has buried them good cause they was more or less columnar so it supports the young lophophoras.


Update is coming as "fast" as lophophora plants are growing. I have failed so many loph growing from seed so at least I know lots of what not to do when growing these. Later I will start to see difference more better between seedlings what are on the another side of container and what are on the another side. At the moment I don't know and it's not important to know where is v. koehresii and v. pentagona variants. I just know another side seedlings looks different than another side but later I know for sure what plant is koehresii and what is pentagona.

I possible write new posts instead of updating this single post, you are welcome to say comments on my project. I have also another tray above heat pad where I have sown peyote seeds from my own plants. But this thread is kind of a blog from my miniature greenhouse what imitating desert environment and I possible keep this plastic cup over the greenhouse long time.. there is hole what I can open and they are actually used to dry air little by little.
It's good to keep day heat on. Possible when these are older, I take this off after watering so humidity of air doesn't rise.. And keep this capturing heat only when there is dry environment. These are actually starting to used to dry soil and showers of water already, I probably start soon bottom watering after first totally dried soil.

At the moment, it's going good! I recommend cheap heating pads for growing lophophora from day one to two years or more. I have also experiment going on with adult arioarpus and peyote using heat pads for them cause probably cold climate growing requires some extra heat to success these plants survival. Last projects I have got has been difficult, many advice say it's good to spray surface of soil moist when it's drying but with that tek and my climate without heat pads, that kind of tek kill small cactus plants to rot so without heat pads in my climate and growing from seed, watering is more than tricky and never know after watering how many rotten seedlings there are in container.

Some of plants now seems to start take fine color what peyote should, also growth speed are nice compared to my previous attempts to grow peyote from seed.

What I have learned trough many mistakes, in cold climate cactus growing, without extra heat growth rate is very slow cause in worst case cactus has to be in dormancy over half of the year and especially growing from seed, do not underestimate low temperatures at day time.. It makes watering very hard..

So.. Later I post more pics, trying to post pictures from every month so you can see the growth rate in my miniature greenhouse desert what seems to work very good! Growth speed has been surprised me, these can take lots of water, plump up without rotting and I am waiting the day when I have peyote plants with color of adults. :bow2:

These equipments are very good for all cold climate peyote growers. Compared to price, these ain't even expensive, 10Watt heat pad is not consume electricity more than regular light bulb. My situation needs artificial lights but this can be done at windowsill as long as sun light is not burn seedlings.. For example north windowsill are good for giving light to young seedlings, or any windowsill are good as long as sun light is filtered.:thumbup:


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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: intelligentlife] * 1
    #18845101 - 09/15/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool man, looking good. I also have some v. pentagona seeds but I haven't got around to sprouting them yet.


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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: psi] * 1
    #18845285 - 09/15/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Is going very nice!!:smile:

Looking forward for the next months!


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    #18845565 - 09/15/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Very nice indeed!

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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: Nature Boy] * 1
    #18852839 - 09/17/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:congrats:

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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: applesmasher420] * 1
    #18896786 - 09/27/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Update coming soon, posted accidentally this. :shrug:¨

Pics are taken at 27th day of September. Light cycle is now 13/11. I have reduced light cycle from 16/8 to 15/9, then 14/10 and now it's 13/11.. Mid-winter my plan is keep 10/14 light period and "dormant" them trough the way of light cycle they got. Same times gives light to and heat to many other cactus so these are living with them but under own fluoro light and own heat pad.

Take a look from my seedling tray, I keep now random watering, I have not watered these for many many days.. Age are between +3months or less than 3months, some of them has sprouted earlier and some later.

Anyone have idea what appearance seedlings are koehresii and what pentagona? Another are more fat and with small spines visible, another ones are more slim and small young spines are very very small or probably there are no good spines at all.. Only I know I have sow 50 seeds of each variant but different side of the tray. Feel free to comment what and possible just for fun try to guess what seedlings are what.. I will say probably next summer I have the answer what seedlings has been koehresii and what has been var. pentagona. I buy'd them both as lophophora williamsii variants but later I find out koehresii are lophophora diffusa or is it?
..Only I know koehresii can be find from nature between the williamsii and diffusa zones.:sun:

They seems to like my artificial desert environment! :dancer:



I just don't tell these they are from north of the arctic circle so they don't feel cold! :heart:

First time ever I have succeed loph growing from seed this way good! Learned trough mistakes.. Growth speed is quite fast and I keep dry and moist periods to these young plants. Probably I water these at next week to make sure none of these rot and I loooooove hard grown plants! Previous times I have tried to grow lophs from seed about 6-8 times, everyone I have failed except this, now I know for sure what not to do so it's good way to go!

Very exited to my self too with this and share my artificial desert from beginning to who knows how far.. Some of these are bigger than my one year old peyote plants but I doubt roots are not so big than my +1year old peyotes, also color of these ain't similar "adults" yet but they seems the color of skin start to turn more deep green slowly. I threat these like regular cactus now except they are inside the miniature greenhouse but I have all holes and doors open there, only plastic dome to keep heat inside.

Cause of I have sow koehresii seeds to another side and pentagona variant seeds to another side, now the difference between seedlings is visible but I still not know what is pentagona seedling appearance and what is koehresii.. Another side seedlings doesn't have so much small spines instead of another side plants are bigger and they have these cute small pines, I have found on plump up to surface after being underground cause of shrinking before new water shower with rain water or fertilized water. I have fertilized only once with 0-4-8 NPK. Small amount of neem and dimethoat used to keep pests away but very rarely, usually pure rain water is the water I have used.

Possible later I will show pics there from another seedling tray of lophophora but this tray is my priority tray where I took pics and update them to you so you can follow the growth speed and so on. Watering days I don't say cause I don't know for sure, I water when I am sure soil is dry enough.. These will survive in dry like now they are when I took pics.:thumbup:

Updates coming when I have time, cause seedlings grow fast, update rate is faster. Hope you want to see the process going on.:bow2:

I have make count that 50 loph.wil. var. koehresii and 50 loph.will. var. pentagona seeds are sown and now I have counted about 60-70 seedlings there so good germination rate cause aprox 5-10plants has died suddenly to rot, reason unknown..

Also I don't know do I have count one seedling two times or not and cause of I have add layer of sand and soil to surface, don't know do I have found every seedling from the tray. As you can see from one picture, there is one seedling only very small tip visible at soil level and there if few of them buried and they shrink below soil after + one week dry period but plump nicely above the soil.

Light spectrum coloration is 2700K Planned to use 2700K+6400K bulbs but now I have only one 2700K bulb big enough to give light, my bulb patter with both colorations and 76Watt of power is hard to adjust for these.. I don't see still it's bad that light spectrum is 2700K, cause overall I want to these think it's winter and growth has to be go slow even I use heat pads but day lenght will be shorter than night to imitate summer and drop the average day temperature for seedlings by that way.


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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: intelligentlife] * 1
    #18905278 - 09/29/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually pic on my last post. There is ~2weeks without watering so I keep them long time without water. Just water yesterday evening before lights and heaters shut down these babies.:tongue2:

Winter is coming, heat pad using I turn to 10/14 or 12/12 cycle, I let them know it's winter and probably let them dehydrate.. But in 2weeks time, I have not seen visible dehydration. Tough cacti!:thumbup:


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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: intelligentlife] * 1
    #18906912 - 09/29/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They look really happy!!! The soil mix you are using looks perfect

How long will you let them grow before you separate and repot them?


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Re: Lophophora Cultivation from seed with mini-greenhouse and heating pad. [Blog style project going] [Re: weilii-coyote] * 1
    #18907162 - 09/29/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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weilii-coyote said:
They look really happy!!! The soil mix you are using looks perfect

How long will you let them grow before you separate and repot them?




As long as they have epidermis like adult ones.. At 3months of age, I give them 2weeks or 1week between watering. They are still under the plastic dome, humidity rise when I give so much rain water shower that water comes out from bottom.

I have used lots of different ingredients to make soil mixture without further thinking, I just "know" what is okay soil to do. Later I have add layers of fertile soil and sand over the layer where I have sow seeds.

Actually there are all of these at list below at the moment as soil, but I have not add everything at once and some ingredients are used to make new top layer after 2months.

These I have used:
-cactus soil (sown to surface after seedlings are "old" enough just in case this contains fertilizers)
-crushed and dried chicken egg shells (very small amount)
-pumicide (volcanic rock, major component)
-various rocks almost everything from outdoors
-expanded clay aggregate (major component)
-big grain sand (this has been there all the time and later I have sown more of this to surface with cactus soil)
-coconut coir (enough to hold moisture)
-perlite (major component)

Majority of the soil is expanded clay aggregate, coconut coir and pumicide and rest of these are randomly add to mixture.

Every time I give lots of spraying water to surface of soil, the cactus soil will go deeper between the rocks and same time makes soil mixture fertile. Once I have sprayed 0-4-8 NPK fertilizer. Now I let whole soil dry before new big amount of water and seedlings are at +35-40C temperature at day.

After every watering the soil surface will "change" by the way that layers will mix more and more and fertile top layer soil will fertilize the plants.

I have planned to keep dry season for them at mid winter, maybe cold one.. Possible they are at spring big enough and not looking anymore like fragile seedlings so then I can keep one or two months dry without heating pad and then at summer I start again growth season, also light periods I planned to change for winter to 10-12hours(maybe 8hours) per day.. Another option is that I just grow them over the winter and next summer and give first winter to them when I have separated the koehresii and pentagona to their own pots. This takes time before I can ID what side is growing koehresii.. I think I don't need to wait till flowering cause they looks at the moment different. Another side seedlings are bigger, round and have "spines" ..another side seedlings are actually almost without no spines at all and more smaller what I suspect to be koehresii. There is at middle point where these two are mixed together but it doesn't matter, in year or two I can separate koehresii and pentagona peyote separately.

Before that, I just grow them in this tray and wait that they are really good size enough and have good roots before I transplant anything. Transplanting causes only stress to plants and probably I loss some this age lophs to rot when moving so I am waiting enough. At this time I post monthly update from this same tray and possible later after transplant when I know what side of the tray koehresii are I transplant them and start showing pics from two trays.

I have under project small peyote, small diffusa and waiting trichocereus seeds too in mail to get some trichocereus peruviana plants to grow too.. But this thread is focused only for this tray and the life line of these lophophora plants. Hope I can give you guys a year or two time line of lophophora growing by taking pics from the tray where they grow. This is fun operation to me and some good information to someone who needs or want to look the growth speed of lophophora cactus.

Now only ~3months are passed but I try to report if I remember every periods of dry and how long they has been on dry and hot conditions.. I have never kept totally closed plastic dome even at the time when I have start to germinate seeds in the miniature greenhouse had holes at the side of the actual plastic dome what captures heat and humidity. I have managed to keep the humidity high enough to success lophophora germination even sometimes soil surface has dried but first two months when it dries I have sprayed water to keep soil humid.

Actually by letting air flow and using plastic dome where are holes already even when germinating it has help possible to keep mold away, at first two months soil surface has gone dry and new spray of water at their first weeks has make an effect that more seeds has germinated and after new watering I have find out new sprouting from the soil.

I am very hopeful with this, first time using heat pads and this is the way I like to go cause in my climate there is serious lack of heat present and germinating lophophora at temperatures when days are hot and nights are cool gives benefit. If not count the plastic dome above the seedling tray, I treat these like adult cactus but don't fertilize them like adults. They got new water shower every two week what I have seen it's "safe" time period to avoid rotting with watering. Also some shriking doesn't matter at all anymore, they are fine good size plants for their age and I like to go hard grown way by keeping dry periods at this age but not so long dry periods what they can survive in their natural habitat..

Lophophora are very good cactus and actually with heat pad and miniature greenhouse, easy to grow and they will do very good at young age even they don't get water for long time. For example I watered these yesterday for good again and before that was 2week time period without any water given to them at all. I have read somewhere that 50days old seedling can survive ~10days without water and 100days old seedling survive without water over ~50days and so on in case of day time is hot anyway. Anyway, these has got their first 2week dry period at age of below 3months and in the pitures there is not any signs of dehydration visible. I meant my last update, picture is taken when they has been 2weeks without water and seems very plump up still. However, my daytime to these seedlings are now 13hours with extra heat and 11hours night and no extra heat and possible I turn it to 12/12 to keep them over winter. When summer comes, I start to give longer days to these and midsummer ofc they got 24hour light per day cause there is no sunset at midsummer..

I hope this project will success without problems and can I can offer nice information with "time lapse" photos so it's good information of growth speed of lophophora.


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    #18934451 - 10/05/13 02:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Update.

Day is 5th of October to these pictures. Just took few photos from these. One seedling has show it's weakness and rot. It doesn't deserve to live, not good tolerance enough :lol:

I have also add very small amount of fertile cactus soil to surface so after every water shower small amount of nutrients and fertilizers will mix to the soil. I watered these 8 days ago with strong shower of water cause soil was over week ago bone dry.

There is some pics.

I took pics from left and right side of tray and attach them together to get more wide picture and every seedlings is visible ofc


Some pics with text written to picture


Random pictures




Maybe too early update and actually growth cannot be seen, but cause of one weak one rotted, also variegata suspect seedling and one what has spent some time under soil and I found it, I think to update some.

As I have write to picture, weak genetics doesn't survive and rotted seedling was just one what doesn't have enough tolerance to water. Instead seedlings around it and seedlings in the tray has not show signs of over watering. I think it's natural selection and only best genetics have chance to grow to adult cactus plants.:dancer:

Seedlings what rot and another are in good shape, in my mind this kind of weak genetics doesn't deserve to live. I removed carefully rotten seedling away and arrange funeral so big that whole nation cry and this day is international sorrow day, also trance party arranged to memory of the lost cactus lasts 6days! AAWW YEEAH!.... :headbang: :rockon:

NOES! fuk it! ..I throw it to compost tray and don't give a shit about one small bad genetic seedling! Cause everyone in my small desert environment lophophora community live their happy life and actually maturing day by day, month after month, year after year.. :pipesmoke:


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    #19012432 - 10/22/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Some update..

Seedlings starting to show some fine epidermis coloration. Last time watering I lost about 20 seedlings to rot.. They was not so tolerant or something, I have not watered so much amounts of water cause the big watering caused abut 1/3 of the seedlings rot. These are survivors left. Pictures are taken at 22th day of October.




These are seedlings survived and many indeed rotted to my big watering after last update.. I have now keep them without water or watered very small amounts directly to the base of seedlings and small spraying. I let them shrink good before water again. Still last watering killed almost that 2/3 of seedlings...
In my mind seedlings what died they are not deserve to keep on living if they cannot manage water at that age so much... Well I keep going update this..
Seedlings starting to take new coloration to skin.. :dancer:


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    #19084045 - 11/04/13 02:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Some update.

4th of November. Light and heating cycle is going at 12/12 hour.

I took some pictures from tray, seedlings starting to show some signs of maturing little by little.:yesnod:



So these are soon about 5 month old. I have reduce watering and let the young ones spent time in dry for weeks, today I sprayed small amount of water for them.

Some seedlings have starting to show rib formation and epidermis starts to go more darker color. They are under 125W 2700K fluoro light. I probably give first (filtered)sun light for these next summer or so.

From 100 seeds sow, now there is about 45 seedlings alive. Mass death happens some time ago when I water maybe too much or something, but still I have these survivors going on and seems good. I have hold on watering on purpose to imitate some winter time for these young ones.

I hope I have good size young lophophora next summer, difference is starting to see now... but I still don't know what side is koehresii and what is regular williamsii v. "pentagona" ...I think I have idea what is koehresii but that will find out later what side of the tray are koehresii lophs. Probably age of 1year at next summer I repot these youngsters to own pots. One seedling seems to be variagate, very pale colored compared to another, except tip of it are pale-green. Well.. I can confirm that later. :awesome:


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    #19084122 - 11/04/13 03:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    #19087160 - 11/04/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    #19130305 - 11/13/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

13th of November it is! I actually water spray today these seedlings in tray and think myself to add some photos here also.

I moved these under stronger light environment and also take plastic dome away from them. I have start to see difference of seedlings and I am almost sure the smaller seedlings on another side are l. koehresii and bigger and more deeper color with small visible ribs are possible l. williamsii pentagona

Seedlings are now roughly 5month old. I can't upload all photos from them. Some seedlings are very shriveled and small and almost hiding or possible germinated very late. I take upload photos from biggest seedlings in tray. Also I have start to suspect I may have one variegate seedling there and it's marked to pictures to yellow circle.

I am not sure is there one variegate cactus or not but coloring is not same than all other seedlings.

There are sum pics taken from possible "pentagona" side of tray:


I suspect this side is koehresii seedlings with one possible variegate marked to picture:


These should be then lophophora williamsii v. pentagona, some rib formation can be seen from seedlings this side of tray:


My suspects of loph. koehresii are based to appearance of seedlings cause one side seedlings are obviously smaller and another side are bigger and ribs are starting to be visible. Well.. That will be later more visible when these starts to take more adult appearance. Only thing I know I have sow 50 l. koehresii and 50 l.w. pentagona seeds to tray and I have not mixed them. Both are sown to different side of tray but I have forget what side is what.. :lol:

Seedlings are anyway doing good! I can really see heating mat with mini-greenhouse are worth of money! :dancer:
..my climate is not so good to grow cacti from seed without excess heat from bottom anyway, too cold or cool temperature over year.. Also night and day temperature change seems to benefit especially lophophora seedlings.:thumbup:

Well, there is the update then.. I probably make updating cycle more longer, anyway, I was bored so I think to photograph this tray and upload some pics.
Any comments about discolored seedling?
..can it be possibly some sort of variegate?
all other seedlings have normal coloration except that one marked in picture.. it's very pale and I have not seen similar loph seedling in my trays.. I have more seedling trays but this is only I keep "blog" there from day one to unknown date.


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    #19173980 - 11/22/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Some update. I need to get seedlings away from tray cause I find out there was too packed soil.

Anyway, I used regular spoon to get seedlings away without causing damage to fragile roots.


Then I take clay pot and mixed new growing medium from perlite, coco coir and pumicide. Planted seedlings carefully and then add small layer of pumidice and other rocks to top.


Close up photo. Seedlings has plump up cause new growing medium is better and I dare to water them better without fear of root rot. These are now 5months old or so.


So. I have now all lophs grows mixed in one pot. I transplant seedlings to new pot at 18th day so they have been on their new pot now 4 days. I succeed at transplanting and not a single seedling died cause of it. They had good root system but I hope now when pot is more deeper and better drainage these can grow better roots. I think I grow these as crowded long time from now on. My plan was transplant these at next summer but as I said I find out old soil was just too packed and it doesn't had good drainage.


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    #19234922 - 12/06/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

6th day of December.

Plants has been adjusted to their new clay pot. I have kept this pot above heat pad and used airy plastic dome to keep heat but humidity doesn't stay in there so much.

Anyway, there are some close shot pics etc from lohpophora mixture pot. There has been deaths along seedlings but it proofs only the best of seedlings has survived to this day! :dancer:



I done approx count of plants what was little bit under 40 lophophora are now alive from 100 seeds. Germination rate was good but I have lost to rot some plants or some of them has just died.

Plants seems to love their new growing medium what is not anymore goes packed so much! Yesterday I give some water shower for them after 2 weeks of drought.


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    #19331761 - 12/27/13 05:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Update from the day 27th of december..
Lophs have been officially without any humidity dome some time now.. ~1month

Almost month lasting drought are very visible now!

Epiermis is very cool, dark green and these were very shrink and some of the plants seems they are almost hide somewhere in the pot.

Pic 1


Pic 2


Two pics taken with flashlight few hour later.. It's easier to see smallest seedlings in pot in pics. These starts to look like adult ones from epidermis. <3

No doubt I start using long drought periods even at summer to get plant size very compact and skin appearance close to "perfect" ..in order to just grow ornamental plants as priority.

These are very dehydrated but ok.. I give these good water shower, I will see later when they plump up again.

Age of seedlings are +6months now. Going good. I was on the road 2 weeks and no one has care of my seedlings but I don't see any problems, seems they are better to leave alone. :lol:

I can update some pics when these plump up some.. Now they are hard to photograph because they're shrink between rocks etc..:awesome:

I achieved same size and appearance in 6months compared to +12months old peyote grown without heating pad and constant lack of water present. I strongly suggest to use good (and cheap) heating equipment to mimic desert environment to cacti. They simply tolerate lots of water when temperatures vary similar to desert environments. :thumbup:

I can strongly suggest to indoor peyote(or tricho as well) to obtain timer and heating pad, light can be got from windowsill. Just add a timer to control day-night time temperature changes.:headbang:


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