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    #18844705 - 09/15/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Did 3 quart jars with a year old syringe...golden teacher that I found in a cupboard. One jar is fully colonized and the other two half way and going no further.
Obviously I want something out of this but can't really do a mono as of the lack of spawn. Have coir, verm and gypsum. I could do a g2g transfer but how long would this take before first flush.
The problem is I have 5weeks away from the gf and need me some shrooms. Is there another method?
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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844723 - 09/15/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, from what I gather from your post you have 1 jar that *is* colonized.  Take that one jar and spawn it with a 1:2 ratio in a very small container then put that container in a SGFC.  I have done trays in a shotgun to good effect but it took longer than 5 weeks for me.


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844725 - 09/15/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Break up the grains, put them in a tray. Case the grains with vermiculite and fruit them in an SGFC :thumbup:


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18844737 - 09/15/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Break up the grains, put them in a tray. Case the grains with vermiculite and fruit them in an SGFC :thumbup:



Just verm? Do I need to have it wet like pf stylee or not as important?
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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844799 - 09/15/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, wet it.  But just moist, not sloppy wet.


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: azur]
    #18844815 - 09/15/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't you just take that jar and do g2g transfers to make more jars? If you only do about 6 or 7 jars and use a lot of colonized grain in each transfer they will be fully colonized in a little over a week and you'll have plenty of time left to do a monotub


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844829 - 09/15/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Because I want them in a couple months :/
Just ill prepared like a nub. Once l.
Will get on it properly after this cluster fuck


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844836 - 09/15/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I edited my previous post. Re read it


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844838 - 09/15/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why don't you just take that jar and do g2g transfers to make more jars? If you only do about 6 or 7 jars and use a lot of colonized grain in each transfer they will be fully colonized in a little over a week and you'll have plenty of time left to do a monotub



Oh... sick.
Thought it took ages. Once the jars are done how long before they fruit in the tub? 14 days?


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    #18844851 - 09/15/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gt is usually fast, for me anyway. 7-10 days to colonize and another 10-14 to fruit.  You could g2g half of it in 3 or 4 jars and then make a mini mini mini tray.


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    #18844855 - 09/15/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah roughly. It takes a tub about a week to colonize and about a week to fruit. G2G is really fast especially if you use plenty of colonized grain per transfer


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844868 - 09/15/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just make sure you follow proper teks exactly and use good sterile procedure so it is not a big failure. I have had really good success following these teks http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844876 - 09/15/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gt is usually fast, for me anyway. 7-10 days to colonize and another 10-14 to fruit.  You could g2g half of it in 3 or 4 jars and then make a mini mini mini tray.



Haha I was thinking this but predicting an inevitable post saying it was pointless.  Maybe it's a go.
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Yeah roughly. It takes a tub about a week to colonize and about a week to fruit. G2G is really fast especially if you use plenty of colonized grain per transfer



What would you consider "plenty"
I will get my read on after this flurry of noob
Ok guys. Thanks.
Shrooms for all


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844905 - 09/15/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do 6 jars and make them all a little over half full. Then when you do the g2g transfers try to split the master evenly between the 6 jars. Make sure that once they are about 20 to 30% colonized that you shake them up real well. This will really speed up the process.

6 qts of spawn will be perfect for doing a mono in a 66 qt tub with a brick of coir and 2 qts of verm :thumbup:


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844917 - 09/15/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and btw the 2 jars that have stalled have you tried shaking them up to disperse the myc? I always shake my grain jars at about 25% and they usually finish 3 or 4 days after that


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844920 - 09/15/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

IME
7-10 days for G2G
10-14 for your tub to colonize
7-10 days for pins
7 days to maturity
3-5 for pins to reform
7 days for mature fruits
These are pretty common times for all above

If you over spawned your G2G jars then you could cut 2-3 days off of that


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18844928 - 09/15/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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IME
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10-14 for your tub to colonize
7-10 days for pins
7 days to maturity
3-5 for pins to reform
7 days for mature fruits
These are pretty common times for all above

If you over spawned your G2G jars then you could cut 2-3 days off of that




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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844944 - 09/15/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18844960 - 09/15/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My suggestions cause what I posted is over 5 weeks.

If you only want a cpl trips worth of shrooms case with verm, 50/50, cactus soil watever.
3 day casing run
7 days to pin
7 days to maturity
3-5 days for second flush pins
7 days to maturity

If your looking for more than a couple trips worth than G2G your one jar to 5 then put that into trays and case
5-7 days G2G
3 days casing
7 days to pin
3-5 days for second flush pins
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Re: Loser needs help [Re: PrinceShroom]
    #18844972 - 09/15/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I disagree. I think if he g2g right now and uses plenty of colonized grains per transfer that he can fruit a mono before the 5 week mark.


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18844990 - 09/15/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I could do it too.  I actually know I could using different ways but its close and if things take any longer than he would be fuct and depending on his girl throw his tub out before its finished the first flush.  Its tight. You wouldnt be able to get more than a single flush in five weeks tho


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    #18845003 - 09/15/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree it would be tight. It is up to you op. It may be a gamble. I am pretty sure I could get it done but I am unsure of your experience level


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18845043 - 09/15/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Not a lot.
She wouldn't throw it. I just want to have some nice trips on my own whilst she's gone.
May have to bite the bullet and just case now.
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    #18845062 - 09/15/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe. You didn't answer my ques. Did you ever shake the 2 jars that didn't colonize? I always shake grain jars at about 25% to distribute the myc throughout the jar


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    #18845077 - 09/15/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh sorry. Yeah I shook them.
One took off real wll he other two weeks e slow and burnt out.
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    #18845079 - 09/15/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh sorry. Yeah I shook them.
One took off real wll he other two weeks e slow and burnt out.
I can post a pic if you want




No thats ok. Just wanted to make sure you had exhausted all your options with those 2 jars.
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    #18845084 - 09/15/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Time is currently ticking...


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    #18845087 - 09/15/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18845108 - 09/15/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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No thats ok. Just wanted to make sure you had exhausted all your options with those 2 jars.
Do they have filtered lids so they can get ge?



Yeah all filtered. The spores were old but obviously one went real well..grains are getting old now and nothing else going on. Maybe the ge is a not enough


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18845335 - 09/15/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Who knows man. Could be a number of things


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Re: Loser needs help [Re: Stromrider]
    #18846130 - 09/15/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey OP, whatever you do...dunk those grains before spawning to bulk.

Your tub will be fully colonized in a week or less :thumbup:


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    #18846143 - 09/15/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I still think if he used proper procedure he could get it done


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    #18846151 - 09/15/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I still think if he used proper procedure he could get it done




Get a flush (or two) in 5 weeks?  Sure he can. I do it every month, easy, if you just take g2g -> harvest timeframe.

He doesn't even need to hurry that much if he's only looking for one flush and he dunks the grains.


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    #18846159 - 09/15/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I still think if he used proper procedure he could get it done




Get a flush (or two) in 5 weeks?  Sure he can. I do it every month, easy, if you just take g2g -> harvest timeframe.

He doesn't even need to hurry that much if he's only looking for one flush and he dunks the grains.



Im moving on the first and everything is a mess for me right now but once I get resettled I am going to try to see how far I get in 5 weeks from a single jar to mono w dunking


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    #18846166 - 09/15/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To add to what Frank said, I've recently used the dunking water to bring my sub to field capacity and it worked great.  Mini monotub is doing great.


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    #18846169 - 09/15/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I still think if he used proper procedure he could get it done




Get a flush (or two) in 5 weeks?  Sure he can. I do it every month, easy, if you just take g2g -> harvest timeframe.

He doesn't even need to hurry that much if he's only looking for one flush and he dunks the grains.




There you go op. From the master himself :bow2: :lol:


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    #18846184 - 09/15/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Im moving on the first and everything is a mess for me right now but once I get resettled I am going to try to see how far I get in 5 weeks from a single jar to mono w dunking




That is exciting, I think you will be pleased with the results :awesomenod:

If you have an aggressive, fast fruiter, you can definitely get two flushes in five weeks (from the master jar finishing).

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To add to what Frank said, I've recently used the dunking water to bring my sub to field capacity and it worked great.  Mini monotub is doing great.




Neat! You should make a thread.

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There you go op. From the master himself :bow2: :lol:




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Oh psilly, you're so silly.


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    #18846194 - 09/15/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's me :cool:


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    #18846197 - 09/15/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been dunking my grains before spawning and have been impressed with my results.


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    #18846289 - 09/15/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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To add to what Frank said, I've recently used the dunking water to bring my sub to field capacity and it worked great.  Mini monotub is doing great.




Neat! You should make a thread.






I did, Frank!  It's in my first grow log, so it's not a thread just about that.  The water is blueish green and can be seen in the pitcher (pics).  It was such a deep blue I think because I bruised the grains; the second time I did it it was very lightly tinted, that's all.  I mentioned it under the date 7/29/2013 and then again later when talking about my monos

Both have worked really well.

Here's the link:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18845210/vc/1#18845210


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