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whats worse? a soda or a cigarette
    #18842875 - 09/14/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i wanna quit the habit of smoking lately and instead i've just been going outside to get a drink from the vending machine soda. whats worse? soda or cigarette? i think its a replaceable habit.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18842879 - 09/14/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Clearly the less addictive of the two would be a good replacement.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Destitute]
    #18842886 - 09/14/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Soda is better than cigs.
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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Destitute]
    #18842892 - 09/14/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sodas contain HFCS and fucktons of sugar. i could easily switch up between those two small hobbies i have but i was wondering which one is a healthier choice.

its hard to say since sodas are not classified as a drug.

main reason is when i wanna smoke a cig i wanna go outside but you gotta do something so its either like smoke a cig or get a soda, thats my mentality.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18842901 - 09/14/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the fuck can i do outside my apartment lol just go out and press stuff on my phone or something? i love doing weird shit alone on drugs but man im scared it would sketch people out.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18842907 - 09/14/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Soda is pretty bad, but not as bad as cigs I think.
Fuck it, smoke a cigarette & drink a soda. Tell me how you feel afterwards.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: NewWavePeace]
    #18842910 - 09/14/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol man thats a terrible way to replace an unhealthy habit. you go hard bro.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles] * 1
    #18842915 - 09/14/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In the short term I'm inclined to say the cig is worse.. Over the long term I doubt the soda is really that much better for you, assuming you're drinking a ton of them a day (I'm guessing you're getting more than 1 or 2 cravings a day).

If you're worried about the soda, could try push-ups or going for a jog around the block or something.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles] * 1
    #18842920 - 09/14/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on what you weigh as worse.

Soda is probably one of the most unhealthy foods you can consume; while cigarettes are a one way ticket to an early grave. I gave up soda about a year and a half ago and since then I've dropped around 50 lbs. and my metabolism is a machine. It's pretty crazy the negative effects soda has on your body.

I'm still a tobacco smoker though... Having quite wrapped my head around that one yet.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: ilike_trees]
    #18842923 - 09/14/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i have an extremely good metabolism. i am skinny as fuck 5'8" and i drink sodas with no problems. its just a habit i have of having look outside on disasssociatives i guess.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18842933 - 09/14/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lucky haha.

Then the cigarettes should be your priority IMO.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: ilike_trees]
    #18842942 - 09/14/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

lol  would rather be standing outside smoking a cigarette rather than drinking a soda to hide how fucked up i am from this mxe lol. social interactions man. i feel like cigarettes would put out a better vibe of who i am rather than drinking soda. but thats just me though


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles] * 1
    #18842974 - 09/15/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I also smoke cigarettes because I'm cool as fuck

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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843007 - 09/15/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i have an extremely good metabolism. i am skinny as fuck 5'8" and i drink sodas with no problems. its just a habit i have of having look outside on disasssociatives i guess.




Visceral fat can be just as harmful as subcutaneous fat

Cigarettes are bad too

Kind of a lose lose situation...but I'd go with the soda. It's much easier to moderate soda intake


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: ilike_trees]
    #18843010 - 09/15/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hahaha, careful what that stuff does to your body though man. :smile:


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Can-i-bus]
    #18843031 - 09/15/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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k3nnyw said:
i have an extremely good metabolism. i am skinny as fuck 5'8" and i drink sodas with no problems. its just a habit i have of having look outside on disasssociatives i guess.




Visceral fat can be just as harmful as subcutaneous fat

Cigarettes are bad too

Kind of a lose lose situation...but I'd go with the soda. It's much easier to moderate soda intake



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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843048 - 09/15/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

1 or more soda's a day without the proper excerise would only be somewhat worse than cigs because in the end you gunna get fat, but if you actually work off atleast 70% of the energy I would think that it could work.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843236 - 09/15/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What's faster, the color blue or a toner cartridge?

To understand the difference in risk, look at the qualitative aspects, as quantitatively, there's too much variance (and too little significance in the consumption of one of either item) to make an assessment.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843342 - 09/15/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Drinking 20 sodas a day will kill you horribly a lot sooner than cigarettes would.

Replace cigs with fresh air and snack on fruits and veggies.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Asante]
    #18843444 - 09/15/13 05:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In an ideal world you should pretty much do that, but he is talking about a replacement for a habit that keeps him look unsuspicious while doing dissociatives if I got OP right...

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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984] * 1
    #18843445 - 09/15/13 05:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would get an e-cig.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: 1ve5w4hu] * 1
    #18843457 - 09/15/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why substitute one addiction for another? You CAN quit, you just need to make up your mind and commit to it.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843498 - 09/15/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Diabetes, or lung cancer?

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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843504 - 09/15/13 06:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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k3nnyw said:
sodas contain HFCS and fucktons of sugar. i could easily switch up between those two small hobbies i have but i was wondering which one is a healthier choice.

its hard to say since sodas are not classified as a drug.

main reason is when i wanna smoke a cig i wanna go outside but you gotta do something so its either like smoke a cig or get a soda, thats my mentality.




LSD/shrooms helped me quit cigs+weed everyday (I quit for a year now cold turkey, no relapse)

think it was the LSD, but shrooms do the same as LSD

and had been smoking for a while, up to 1/8th a day + cigs

they help us see our mistakes, so can't feel good unless I correct my mistakes
also they help me appreciate what I got,  don't want to do the opposite of that when I feel happy

currently trip every 1-4 months, I don't count it, sometimes only every 4-5 months, sometimes 1-2 times a month

shrooms are easy to grow and healthier than cigs or candy likely
(it helped me quit daily fastfood + coke everyday too... used to drink 1 large bottle coke everyday for years, now I only drink water mostly)

daily use of any drug was the mistake, moderation is important to feel good

also I found myself, that's probably what did it, happiness everyday, don't need anything to be happy (took 100 LSD trips to get there, and egodeath in the end)

it's natural to love everything we see, love our bodies, and be happy most of the time, else we're missing some part of ourselves,  how stupid it may sound :-) , it's true
forgetting our true values in life, those that makes us happy everyday (nature, being social, not taking everything so seriously, doing things other than working/studying i.e.)

and pets,houseplants etc :-)  , don't underestimate the value they add to your life, infinite happiness everyday from each

reducing stress is the most important thing to be yourself, but it is hard to notice the changes that stress bring

worrying much of the time, bad overview of thought/hard to think, no regular sleep, not being social, overeating, doing drugs/smoking cigs (careless about one's body), bad memory, serious illnesses (because you become careless about yourself slowly during many years)
when you are yourself, you don't need anything, you can fast for days, eat as litle as you want/healthy  , no need for cigs either etc.

meditation/nature/houseplants/pets reduce stress , it's important with a place to be yourself or some way to be yourself
I walk in nature/sit in nature to be myself (or meditate), because I got stress where I live (always had issues with noise very sensitive to it, and very loud neighbors)

I used to work up to around 70-80 hrs a week for many years, but now I work minimum hours to be stress free, feel better that way
was never happy before, never appreciated anything I had, now I am everyday and appreciate everything I got


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: lessismore]
    #18843528 - 09/15/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can't handle soda...I keep burping after even a few sips. It's been a few years though.

Would rather get carbonated water and make my own contraption.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843537 - 09/15/13 07:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NewWavePeace said:
Soda is pretty bad, but not as bad as cigs I think.
Fuck it, smoke a cigarette & drink a soda. Tell me how you feel afterwards.



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k3nnyw said:
lol man thats a terrible way to replace an unhealthy habit. you go hard bro.



If you consider a soda and a cig "going hard" what is going soft?


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Asante]
    #18843551 - 09/15/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why substitute one addiction for another? You CAN quit, you just need to make up your mind and commit to it.





This. You are the only being who controls your mind-independent reality. You can do ANYTHING in there. You just have to believe, and commit.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18843555 - 09/15/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Soda isn't particularly healthy, but it is much less addictive than cigs IMO. I would say replace cigs with soda, then stop drinking soda (or drink it more moderately)


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18843562 - 09/15/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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TwinEclipse said:
:confused:
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Why substitute one addiction for another? You CAN quit, you just need to make up your mind and commit to it.





This. You are the only being who controls your mind-independent reality. You can do ANYTHING in there. You just have to believe, and commit.




Exercise is a good replacement

Cycle 10km everyday, then you dont feel like smoking, it gets the mood up
and body feels bad when you smoke after cycling/before cycling, so you automatically quit if you cycle/run

and it gets you to drink water too, because soda doesn't taste as good after cycling


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: lessismore]
    #18843606 - 09/15/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18843724 - 09/15/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sunflower seeds



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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18843776 - 09/15/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A soda you can run off. a cig not so much.
Why not neither? or one soda a day?. or just stand outside for some air?
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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18843792 - 09/15/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just drink club soda.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: 1ve5w4hu] * 2
    #18843840 - 09/15/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I would get an e-cig.


Yup I haven't had a cig in almost 2 months since I got mine. I lost track of how long its been, that's how little I care about real cigs.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
    #18844246 - 09/15/13 11:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
In an ideal world you should pretty much do that, but he is talking about a replacement for a habit that keeps him look unsuspicious while doing dissociatives if I got OP right...

Fuck society man...



you got it man lol


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: lessismore]
    #18844268 - 09/15/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mio said:
Quote:

k3nnyw said:
sodas contain HFCS and fucktons of sugar. i could easily switch up between those two small hobbies i have but i was wondering which one is a healthier choice.

its hard to say since sodas are not classified as a drug.

main reason is when i wanna smoke a cig i wanna go outside but you gotta do something so its either like smoke a cig or get a soda, thats my mentality.




LSD/shrooms helped me quit cigs+weed everyday (I quit for a year now cold turkey, no relapse)

think it was the LSD, but shrooms do the same as LSD

and had been smoking for a while, up to 1/8th a day + cigs

they help us see our mistakes, so can't feel good unless I correct my mistakes
also they help me appreciate what I got,  don't want to do the opposite of that when I feel happy

currently trip every 1-4 months, I don't count it, sometimes only every 4-5 months, sometimes 1-2 times a month

shrooms are easy to grow and healthier than cigs or candy likely
(it helped me quit daily fastfood + coke everyday too... used to drink 1 large bottle coke everyday for years, now I only drink water mostly)

daily use of any drug was the mistake, moderation is important to feel good

also I found myself, that's probably what did it, happiness everyday, don't need anything to be happy (took 100 LSD trips to get there, and egodeath in the end)

it's natural to love everything we see, love our bodies, and be happy most of the time, else we're missing some part of ourselves,  how stupid it may sound :-) , it's true
forgetting our true values in life, those that makes us happy everyday (nature, being social, not taking everything so seriously, doing things other than working/studying i.e.)

and pets,houseplants etc :-)  , don't underestimate the value they add to your life, infinite happiness everyday from each

reducing stress is the most important thing to be yourself, but it is hard to notice the changes that stress bring

worrying much of the time, bad overview of thought/hard to think, no regular sleep, not being social, overeating, doing drugs/smoking cigs (careless about one's body), bad memory, serious illnesses (because you become careless about yourself slowly during many years)
when you are yourself, you don't need anything, you can fast for days, eat as litle as you want/healthy  , no need for cigs either etc.

meditation/nature/houseplants/pets reduce stress , it's important with a place to be yourself or some way to be yourself
I walk in nature/sit in nature to be myself (or meditate), because I got stress where I live (always had issues with noise very sensitive to it, and very loud neighbors)

I used to work up to around 70-80 hrs a week for many years, but now I work minimum hours to be stress free, feel better that way
was never happy before, never appreciated anything I had, now I am everyday and appreciate everything I got



thanks for reminding me of this. i got this epiphany laying on my bed half naked yesterday on mxe meditating and tripping and just thinking for hours. i recommend anyone using disassociatives or hallucinogens to try doing nothing on these substances too and connect with your inner divine self that is everything.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18844427 - 09/15/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ciggerattes are way more addictive and get all over ur clothes smell and bad for ur lungs and gives second hand smoke out, cigs are way worse.


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #18844439 - 09/15/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going on almost 48 hours of my last cigarette.

I put a piece of paper up by the door and every time I feel like going out I tally it.

I'm doing way better than I thought and much better than the last time I tried to quit.

Ive also picked up oil pulling again, started that the day I gave up smoking


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Re: whats worse? a soda or a cigarette [Re: Nimpo]
    #18844607 - 09/15/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Soda is better than cigs.
Aim for tea, even if it has sugar.
Chocolate m&ms best if you pro




Aww ye, those fucking M&Ms are the only thing that gets me through my shift. The staff room has a machine that pumps like half a styrofoam cup full of the peanut M&Ms. Hasn't replaced smoking though. Nope.


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