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Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs'
    #18842567 - 09/14/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Source: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/one-reveller-has-died-and-another-84-have-been-arrested-for-drug-related-charges/story-fni0cx4q-1226719408344

"A MAN has died after overdosing on an unknown drug at a dance festival in Sydney's west last night.

More than 18,000 people attended the Defqon. 1 dance festival at the Sydney International Regatta Centre in Penrith yesterday.

Police believe a 23-year-old Victorian man had travelled by car with several friends to attend the festival.

Shortly before midday, the man was taken to the venue medical centre but his condition quickly deteriorated and he suffered several seizures.

An ambulance was summoned and took the man to Nepean Hospital, where he had to be resuscitated after numerous prolonged cardiac arrests, however he died shortly after 10.30pm.

A NSW Police spokesman said it was unsure what substance the man had taken at the festival at this stage.

"That information is being prepared for the coroner," he said.

"It is certainly a warning to others out there if it was an overdose, which is what it is looking like."

During the dance party, police arrested 87 people with three of those detained for public order offences. The remainder were all arrested for drug offences.

Officers believe that 14 other patrons were conveyed to hospital after suffering apparent drug overdoses.

Defqon. 1 Festival is an annual music festival held in the Netherlands and Australia. It was founded in 2003 by festival organiser Q-dance and plays mostly hardstyle and related genres such as hardcore techno, jumpstyle and hard trance. Many prominent hardstyle and dubstyle artists perform there annually.

Police have announced a media conference regarding the man's death and the large number of arrests made at the event for this afternoon.

They also warned users of illegal drugs to be aware that while they may believe they are purchasing one drug they may get something completely different.

"People who attend dance parties and music festivals need to act with caution when considering taking an illicit drug. The effects of some of the more popular drugs at these venues such as MDMA (ecstasy) can cause overheating and dehydration with sometimes fatal consequences,"

Penrith Local Area Command Crime Manager Detective Inspector Grant Healey warned.

It was the fifth year for the event described as being for "hard dance enthusiasts" with tickets for the Sydney International Regatta Centre event costing as much as $235.

On its website organisers stress "This festival is produced to give everyone a positive and safe experience. Q-dance maintains a zero tolerance drug policy. There will be a strong police presence at the event."

Headline acts include Coone, Gunz for Hire, Frontliner and Brennan Heart."

My thoughts are with his friends and family. I'm hoping for the day when this madness stops.


Edited by durantz (09/14/13 09:36 PM)


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: durantz] * 1
    #18842906 - 09/14/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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They also warned users of illegal drugs to be aware that while they may believe they are purchasing one drug they may get something completely different.






Which is entirely the fault of prohibition, there should be an open and regulated market. A safe market for substances which will be bought and used regardless

"Another casualty of the war on drug users"


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' *DELETED* [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18843183 - 09/15/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: Immortal Jellyfish]
    #18843795 - 09/15/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He's a victim of unassociated harm from the government. We don't know what he took. Articles like this stir it up for regulation. It's up to people to help themselves. Designer drugs have no study. Maybe it was the dose that killed him, it may have not killed others, and  we weren't there...


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: AWAYZONE_50]
    #18843808 - 09/15/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"Q-dance maintains a zero tolerance drug policy. There will be a strong police presence at the event."

that's why my E pills are officially named Q-Dance?, because you don't tolerate drugs

tested at 165mg MDMA per pill

only need ½  to roll for a flip


but feel sorry for yet another victim...
Emergency Rooms get overloaded everytime someone throws a party, 911 is called a lot
and someone always dies/overdoses
tax payers pay the bill for the many ER visits/911....

it shouldn't be so, who is to blame? it's obvious...
mdma is very safe, safer for the body than a night of drinking
there will always be a demand, and innocent victims till the war stops


Edited by lessismore (09/15/13 09:34 AM)


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: AWAYZONE_50]
    #18845764 - 09/15/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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AWAYZONE_50 said:
Articles like this stir it up for regulation.




I was thinking the opposite. I thought that the article just highlighted how people are dying because of regulation. So the party organisers adopted a heavy police/security presence and a zero tolerance for drugs. Yet 1 man died, and 14 others had suspected overdoses. Seems like the tough policy was an epic fail in this case. And it resulted in someone dying.

So for me the article contains the message:

"The war on drugs is killing people, not saving them."


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: durantz]
    #18846819 - 09/15/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It seems to me that if any "straight" person were to actually look at the facts and figures, they would be immediately buying tickets to the next festival.  Let's take the time to look at the numbers...

18,000+ in attendance
87 arrested (.48%)
14 hospitalized (.078%)
1 death (.0056%)

102 Total who had a bad time (.57%)
17,898 Total who had a epic time (.994%)

Looks like drug consumption at these events is arguably safe.  Would anyone like to compare these stats to similar ones produced during any popular spring break/heavy alcohol consumption time?


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: hookahhead]
    #18848097 - 09/16/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hookahhead said:
It seems to me that if any "straight" person were to actually look at the facts and figures, they would be immediately buying tickets to the next festival.  Let's take the time to look at the numbers...

18,000+ in attendance
87 arrested (.48%)
14 hospitalized (.078%)
1 death (.0056%)

102 Total who had a bad time (.57%)
17,898 Total who had a epic time (99.4%)

Looks like drug consumption at these events is arguably safe.  Would anyone like to compare these stats to similar ones produced during any popular spring break/heavy alcohol consumption time?




Fixed for ya.  And that would be fun to see the stats on that for a popular spring break location.  Also if you could add the number of pregnancies that occur during spring break it would be interesting.


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: Immortal Jellyfish] * 1
    #18848305 - 09/16/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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23 is way too young to die. governments are too fucking ignorant about drugs.





You're required to be completely ignorant about drugs to have a career in governmenting. If you've smoked weed, you probably know the truth about it and therefore are not allowed into their little club where only ignorant sexually frustrated old people are allowed. Didn't I read an article on here where a cop wasn't allowed on the police force because his IQ was too high or something? heh... sounds like dumb people finally found a way to outsmart smart people. O_o


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: thirtygoats]
    #18848394 - 09/16/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

its easy to get frustrated about the gov

But the gov represents the people

Too little acceptance in society
Can be changed by changing ourselves.. you can change everyone around you by being how you want others to be

Be nice to everybody you meet ,  tell them(ppl you know) the truth about drugs while being a good example yourself
Inform people

Soon culture will change  and the gov a bit with it

Weed is not cool in society thats the problem..change society instead

(I tell everyone I know that I smoke all the stuff there is,mostly plants, but that I only do it rarely.. they usually get surprised, because I've never used a drug in my life until I was 25... college:-) , even when I have quit weed I usually say I like to smoke once in a while (haven't in a year really, except once)


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18848570 - 09/16/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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durantz said:
They also warned users of illegal drugs to be aware that while they may believe they are purchasing one drug they may get something completely different.





Which is entirely the fault of prohibition, there should be an open and regulated market. A safe market for substances which will be bought and used regardless




I instantly thought the same exact thing as I was reading.


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: lessismore]
    #18849100 - 09/16/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mio said:

Weed is not cool in society thats the problem..change society instead




Its certainly societies fault for being ignorant, the government has had anti-drug propaganda for almost a hundred years but you really have to be very ignorant to believe any of it. Looking at wars and nationalism though, that is also the will of the people so considering how ignorant humans are I'm just glad to see any form of progress.
Things are tentatively moving in the right direction


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: dodgem]
    #18849140 - 09/16/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

hookahhead said:
It seems to me that if any "straight" person were to actually look at the facts and figures, they would be immediately buying tickets to the next festival.  Let's take the time to look at the numbers...

18,000+ in attendance
87 arrested (.48%)
14 hospitalized (.078%)
1 death (.0056%)

102 Total who had a bad time (.57%)
17,898 Total who had a epic time (99.4%)

Looks like drug consumption at these events is arguably safe.  Would anyone like to compare these stats to similar ones produced during any popular spring break/heavy alcohol consumption time?




Fixed for ya.  And that would be fun to see the stats on that for a popular spring break location.  Also if you could add the number of pregnancies that occur during spring break it would be interesting.




Your statistics may be very misleading what if only 300 people in total at that party even took any drugs at all? That would mean over 1 third of the people who used drugs there are caught. You don't have the statistics on the actual percentage of people who took drugs there, only everyone who was there, the majority of who may not have taken drugs... the real ratio here would be comparing those caught to the total number of individuals using drugs at the party...


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Re: Another casualty of the 'War on Drugs' [Re: fakyoo]
    #18849494 - 09/16/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bullshit 300 people LOL, especially if you include alcohol it was probably closer to 60-70%, maybe more.


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