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OfflineSchmendrick
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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18842048 - 09/14/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I have this land in florida I want to sell you...




Not interested.  I will live long enough to see the effects of global climate change, and much of Florida will be flooded... so you can keep it.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842062 - 09/14/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Schmendrick said:
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I have this land in florida I want to sell you...




Not interested.  I will live long enough to see the effects of global climate change, and much of Florida will be flooded... so you can keep it.



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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18842071 - 09/14/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i'd rather live a miserable terrible life for 10,000 years.




Agreed.  At least you are still experiencing things.  Once you are dead... that's it.  Eternal suffering is preferable to eternal nonexistance.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842080 - 09/14/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Schmendrick said:

I will live long enough to see the effects of global climate change




The ocean will rise only 37 inches at its worst by 2100.

Youll need a few centuries under your belt before its even pronounced, and youll be long dead by then

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question473.htm


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Nimpo]
    #18842092 - 09/14/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nimpo said:
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Schmendrick said:

I will live long enough to see the effects of global climate change




The ocean will rise only 37 inches at its worst by 2100.

Youll need a few centuries under your belt before its even pronounced, and youll be long dead by then

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question473.htm




Up for debate. You reference the IPCC estimate, which could be right, but I also suspect to have ulterior motives behind it's numbers.  Current estimates range from 50cm to 6 feet by the end of this century.  We will have a much better idea in 20 years.  No point in even arguing about it now.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842102 - 09/14/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just a matter of not dying from an incurable disease or external force (like enjoying a stroll outside and having an out of control car decimate you) to see the fruits of our emissions


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Nimpo]
    #18842121 - 09/14/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and by the way, even 37 inches is enough to do some serious damage to the Florida coastline... and to obliterate much of the rice fields of Asia.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842184 - 09/14/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Coast lines are just coast line, all major pop cities will be fine.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842295 - 09/14/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I'm the only one who wants an amazing life and to die early??  Fuck losing my vision, hearing, memory and libido!!


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18842390 - 09/14/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My idea of a perfect life is pretty intense, so yeah, id go with that, even if it doesn't last so long.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18842400 - 09/14/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Coast lines are just coast line, all major pop cities will be fine.




Yeah... you know, except Miami.  And New Orleans (again).  And 100 others around the globe. 

And a good chunk of the world's agricultural land..

No problem!  No problem at all. :rolleyes:


Edited by Schmendrick (09/14/13 08:40 PM)


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18842415 - 09/14/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The Doobie Dude said:
So I'm the only one who wants an amazing life and to die early??  Fuck losing my vision, hearing, memory and libido!!




The older I get, the less interested I am in living a short and interesting life.
I'll just live a long and interesting life instead.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: something super extreme]
    #18842418 - 09/14/13 08:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To each there own


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842423 - 09/14/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Schmendrick said:
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Coast lines are just coast line, all major pop cities will be fine.




Yeah... you know, except Miami.  And New Orleans (again).  And 100 others around the globe. 

And a good chunk of the world's agricultural land..

No problem!  No problem at all. :rolleyes:




Were we not talking about Florida specifically? :rolleyes:

Miami will be fine with 3 feet of additional water, i would know, I lived there


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Nimpo]
    #18842443 - 09/14/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well then let's talk about just Miami, shall we?

The elevation of the Miami area never rises above 40 ft (12 m) and averages at around 6 ft (1.8 m) above mean sea level in most neighborhoods, especially near the coast. You do realize that the sea is not a static thing, right?  3 feet higher means many neighborhoods would be flooded, but more than that, it means that all storm surges would be 3 feet higher as well.  If you have lived there, that concept should scare the pants off you.

Miami sits on soft ground.  you would have to dig quite deep to hit bedrock in order to sink pylons for effective sea defense systems such as dams, seawalls and levies which encircled the city.  If you don't bury them in bedrock, the sea will just erode under them.  I have seen estimates which suggest that to defend the city of Miami from even a modest 3 foot sea level rise would cost in excess of a quarter of a trillion dollars.  It is doable, but is it worth it?

If the sea rises much more than 3 feet, the answer to the above question will very likely be "no", and the city would have to be abandoned to the sea.

And that's not even taking into account the impact on the local economy.  The construction of the required sea defenses would destroy every beach in the area.  60 percent of Miami's economy depends on tourism.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Memories]
    #18842445 - 09/14/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Memories said:
Would you rather live the perfect life until you suddenly died in a car accident at age 30 or live your current life and die in your 80's?



What's a perfect life?

If you mean a content, stress free life, as happy as you can be without drugs, then yeah, I'd do that.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842471 - 09/14/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Having lived through Andrew, witnessing Katrina and Wilma, and tens of summer rain storms over two feet in rainfall, three feet wont do much. Theres still proper drainage at that level. You do know we sit on top of porous limestone, right?

Three feet wont do anything drastic. MAYBE flood anything before Ocean Drive to the ocean, but just barely. Bayside would be fine, Downtown is fine, and where my parents live would certainly be fine, and they live by South East Miami. Even canals all over the city have been adapted since Wilma when the city saw some substantial issues.

Five to ten feet is where I could imagine some severe issues coming. But three feet? Nothing but beach area is lost.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Nimpo]
    #18842486 - 09/14/13 09:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You do know we sit on top of porous limestone, right?




The city itself might sit on limestone, not the surrounding areas, and certainly not the coasts where the sea defenses would have to be built.

Edit >> I am wrong about this, as can be seen Here, but it turns out that this "Porous limestone" known as "Miami oolite"  is in fact the "soft ground" mentioned in the report I read.  It is not capable of supporting the proposed sea defenses.  it is too soft, porous and erodes quickly.

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But three feet? Nothing but beach area is lost.




See my previous comment regarding 60 percent of the economy.


Edited by Schmendrick (09/14/13 09:14 PM)


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842490 - 09/14/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Schmendrick said:
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i'd rather live a miserable terrible life for 10,000 years.




Agreed.  At least you are still experiencing things.  Once you are dead... that's it.  Eternal suffering is preferable to eternal nonexistance.




I think id go with this one too, id understand id suffer many emotional battles with the countless people i met and loved dying around me and seeing the world constantly changing and the environment destroyed... then again 100 years sounds good to me.


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Re: Would you rather die [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18842503 - 09/14/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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But three feet? Nothing but beach area is lost.

See my previous comment regardin 60 percent of the economy.




We still have Disney World and not all beaches would be lost, its fine. New inner water park themes open up, more revenue, ect. Its in a state with funding, they will learn how to adapt to economic changes. Old people will still come for free health care, Jews will still invest and live down here. Everything moves inner city, Doral will kick off, and expanding West and South will increase the housing market in response to the eastern flooding. W Not all beaches are lost, and stacking sand to help remake an artificial beach is possible. They do it in other places, no?

Shit, even the casinos can kick off here. A new Las Vegas.

Edit: Ran by the Indians, of course. And hopefully less smokey.


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