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rikuni

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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: cycline]
#18831346 - 09/12/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TwinEclipse
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: Gorlax]
#18831379 - 09/12/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's used for anxiety as well so that's probably why. What is the max dosage you have taken and have you been using it daily. The dreams during use were okay but when I went through withdrawal they were absolutely crazy, literally I was inside a dream world. I can still recall the events even though most of my dreaming I forget. Not to mention when I had them on it I was taking doses of around 2-3g max.

Damn it makes you high? I feel a warm fuzzy feeling the day after after taking 200-400mg(it came with a little measuring spoon). I have took twice the amount before, and I felt nauseous the next morning(first time trying, thought it wouldn't work), so I just keep it at 1/4 teaspoon dose. Only used it 3 times in 2 weeks though 
Oh my goodness. Took phenibut last night. Didn't wake up AT ALL still have a light headache, but that's probably a result from previous sleepless nights. 200mg does the job for my needs, along with 1g of GABA.
I can see how taking a gram a day can make tolerance. But I don't use it for anxiety...I NEED it for sleep man. it does make me feel....calm. Hmm. Kinda like alcohol without the intoxication. It's a benzo after all.
Edited by TwinEclipse (09/12/13 07:32 AM)
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JacksonMetaller
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18831396 - 09/12/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: DPT
Or Kykeon, if that was a real thing.
DPT is extremely easy to get. Hop on it before its gone
Where in the world are you living? DPT falls pretty clearly under the analogue act, Operation Web Tryp shut down sellers in the U.S. and they aren't coming back...
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allseeingike said: pharmaceutical grade jenkem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy
All RCs fall under the analogue act. I live in the US, but you can get it pretty easily along with other RCs except in Florida and maybe maine
Edited by JacksonMetaller (09/12/13 07:34 AM)
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sanchothestoner
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: JacksonMetaller] 1
#18831771 - 09/12/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mescaline, 2C-E, AMT, DOC, and Ayahuasca.
-------------------- I fucking hate you... God damn, I love you... But we both know if we stick together, we'll just tear ourselves apart You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy, when skies are grey You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!
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Gorlax



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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18831936 - 09/12/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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TwinEclipse said:
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Gorlax said:
It's used for anxiety as well so that's probably why. What is the max dosage you have taken and have you been using it daily. The dreams during use were okay but when I went through withdrawal they were absolutely crazy, literally I was inside a dream world. I can still recall the events even though most of my dreaming I forget. Not to mention when I had them on it I was taking doses of around 2-3g max.

Damn it makes you high? I feel a warm fuzzy feeling the day after after taking 200-400mg(it came with a little measuring spoon). I have took twice the amount before, and I felt nauseous the next morning(first time trying, thought it wouldn't work), so I just keep it at 1/4 teaspoon dose. Only used it 3 times in 2 weeks though 
Oh my goodness. Took phenibut last night. Didn't wake up AT ALL still have a light headache, but that's probably a result from previous sleepless nights. 200mg does the job for my needs, along with 1g of GABA.
I can see how taking a gram a day can make tolerance. But I don't use it for anxiety...I NEED it for sleep man. it does make me feel....calm. Hmm. Kinda like alcohol without the intoxication. It's a benzo after all.
You can definitely get high off it man lol take 2.0g and you will be wasted. but it isn't technically a benzo it's really just GABA with a phenyl ring. The phenyl (benzene) ring allows it to cross lipid membranes because it makes it very Hydrophobic. This is why it can cross your blood brain barrier. GABA can't readily cross because it doesn't have the hydrophobic phenyl ring. GABA does build up though.. but I am warning you now be very careful with these two combined..
Phenibut is a sketch drug labeled as a supplement, and is no way nootropic! GABA receptors IMO should not be messed with. The w/d affect almost every fucking part of your body. from temperature control, convulsion control, nerve pain, thoughts, anxiety, heart rate, random panic attacks, tremors and shakes, muscle twitching,headache, nausea, inability to eat, high blood pressure... it goes on and on...It's probably what having stage 5 aids feels like.
I don't recommend phenibut for (longtime) sleep treatment.. yes it works but it will catch up. This is primarily why I took it too..( I used a generic nyquil from the 99cent store that does not have acetaminophen in it just dxm and doxyalamine)...works great!
If you want to learn more about phenibut withdrawal its exactly like benzo withdrawal..in fact it's the only withdrawal that can actually KILL YOU! not even heroin withdrawal can kill you!!
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OliverJames
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: Gorlax]
#18832572 - 09/12/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, are you sure your not just sensitive to phenibut? I've heard the w/d from xanax can be horrific but I get zero withdrawl effects from phenibut. I take it 3 times a week, 1-1.5g each time, and I've suffer no adverse effects. I'm pretty sure the only way to get w/d effects is if ur take a dose higher than 1.5g every single day. And to be honest, I don't know many substances that can be used daily without ANY w/d effects. Even my buddies who smoke daily, when they take a day off, they have trouble getting to sleep. I will admit though, calling it a supplement is a bit deceiving. Anymore than 2-3g of this stuff and I'm tranquilized.
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weshroom



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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: OliverJames]
#18832851 - 09/12/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya I take around 1 gram once a week, max. I try to keep it once every two weeks or just once in a blue moon. Im taking a break now. I took it on tuesday, wednesday I had a beer in the afternoon and I had the worst fucking headache that night. Dont know if it was related to the phenibut but I have a suspicion it was. Also I noticed my arm muscle was twitching all day yesterday. That could just be chance though.
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MystiqueMushroom


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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: weshroom]
#18832907 - 09/12/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ibogaine for sure
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Yage
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: MystiqueMushroom]
#18833024 - 09/12/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ibogaine, the help with my on and off opiate use. I'm not expecting a cure but some relief from the mindset. Aya in the jungle because they say it's good. Herion tooo.
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Gorlax



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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: weshroom]
#18833947 - 09/12/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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weshroom said: Ya I take around 1 gram once a week, max. I try to keep it once every two weeks or just once in a blue moon. Im taking a break now. I took it on tuesday, wednesday I had a beer in the afternoon and I had the worst fucking headache that night. Dont know if it was related to the phenibut but I have a suspicion it was. Also I noticed my arm muscle was twitching all day yesterday. That could just be chance though.
Yep it's cause you mixed it with beer! That is what I did except I went on a serious alcohol binge! I'm talking 12 pack friday, shots shots shots saturday, and shots shots shots sunday. I am very sensitive to phenibut though. Those twitches are almost certainly your GABA receptors rebounding.
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cycline
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: rikuni]
#18835350 - 09/13/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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rikuni said: If there would be no health problems afterward I would LOVE to try Krok
desomorphine or what krok stands for?
-------------------- “To see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wildflower; Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, And eternity in an hour.” — Auguries of Innocence, William Blake
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rikuni

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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: cycline]
#18835359 - 09/13/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: rikuni]
#18835439 - 09/13/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Krok is only dangerous because people cook it extremely poorly and don't do any washing of their product after. Then they end up sticking shit that has no business being in anyone's veins into their veins. Surprise, surprise, when you pump gasoline into your arm it falls off. You get it made the right way, though, and it's perfectly fine. It's been used in medicine before.
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Gorlax



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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18836581 - 09/13/13 11:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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^ Yeah those videos they are basically injecting dirt lol. Injecting anything is still retarded. Leave that to the docs.
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cycline
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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: Gorlax]
#18840609 - 09/14/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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basically the same logic when one doesn't want to try lets say MPPP because there could be some dangerous impurities (in this case MPTP -this gets metabolized to neurotoxin MPP+ by MAO-B).
but to stay on topic I wouldn't mind some ketobemidone right now
-------------------- “To see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wildflower; Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, And eternity in an hour.” — Auguries of Innocence, William Blake
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ShadeOfDeepPurple


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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: cycline]
#18840635 - 09/14/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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cycline said: basically the same logic when one doesn't want to try lets say MPPP because there could be some dangerous impurities (in this case MPTP -this gets metabolized to neurotoxin MPP+ by MAO-B).
but to stay on topic I wouldn't mind some ketobemidone right now
Yes let's try highly addictive drugs known to most often have impurities that can cause limbs to fall apart. Sorry with the exception of some safe old green every now and then I'm just not into pleasure drugs. Not to be a buzz kill.
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Guardian Gunman
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MY top choice would be DMT at the purge of an LSD trip, followed by Ayahuasca, and mescaline (which is SWIMS fave )
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s240779

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Re: If you could try any drug, what would it be? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#18893470 - 09/26/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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JacksonMetaller said: As far bridgesii, the last time I looked it was elusive but it may have been out of season. As much as I'm dying to get in on some I have a list of RCs I need to get on before the ban and I also need to make sure my psyches don't have maois, which I can't get solid info for regarding bridgesii
Might want to try this link. It's being sponsored on DMT-Nexus
Cactus Chemistry by Species
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