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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Old Pokey]
#18841209 - 09/14/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Old Pokey said: We're not going to agree here,
well we can agree to disagree 
just for fun i was googleing addiction to see what i could come up with and
oxford dictionary
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Definition of addiction in English
addiction Pronunciation: /əˈdɪkʃ(ə)n/
noun [mass noun]
the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance or activity:he committed the offence to finance his drug addiction addiction to crack cocaine is spreading [count noun]:an addiction to gambling
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late 16th century (denoting a person's inclination or proclivity): from Latin addictio(n-), from addicere 'assign' (see addicted)
the fact or condition of being addicted to a particular substance or activity
late 16th century (denoting a person's inclination or proclivity)
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Old Pokey said: I think lumping all these thing together perpetuates addiction AND habituation.
that is sorta what i say previously that, addiction might not be the right word and ts sorta a similar to an ocd thing
addiction and haituation seem to be sorta similar too, you could probaly say that any addiction that dosnt cause physical withdrwals is a habituation
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
#18841256 - 09/14/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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LuSiD enthusiast said: Might be good, might not be who fucking knows? Journalists sure as hell don't.
Tell that to Raul Duke
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: MagicMaker]
#18841889 - 09/14/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think that LSD is/probably/maybe good for mental health. I don't know. Working with the model that psychedelics present alternative ways of thinking about things, it should help you look at life differently, but it might depend on how you receive the experience and how you deal with it. I feel like psychedelics have made me think about things that are bothering me and analyze them, which has been good for me, but I suppose it could depress someone else and make the get therapy or something. I don't know. It's a theory.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: gulper2323] 1
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WTF is with this article; the top half of the article is used to promote positive news about LSD which has just been scientifically proven to be correct about the substance, and then the bottom half is used to promote propaganda about LSD which has never had any scientific merit 
It's journalism man, they gotta be unbiased and show both sides of the argument.
You can see the writer is pro-lsd, cause he put those idiotic quotes last.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: HipDip]
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i'm going to echo what has already been said here
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“The LSD that was being abused in the ‘60s and the ‘70s was a much different drug in terms of dosage than what is being used now,” said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, professor and director of UF Health Forensic Medicine.
so apparantly being a lauded professor and doctorate of health and forensic medicine does not preclude some semblance of having a fucking clue about what you're talking about.... i wonder how often he trips or if he even knows what a trip actually is, because a 75ug trip is not nearly profound while a 300-500ug trip can change your life.
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“I would be reluctant to use a drug like LSD to treat alcoholism,” Goldberger said. “You’re treating one drug with a high potential for abuse with another drug with a high potential of abuse."
someone please kindly remove this professor's doctorate and replace it with a dunce cap until he can STFU and fry his balls. Not unlike mushrooms, the more LSD a person uses the less effective it becomes until little to no effects are possible at reasonable dosages. LSD IS NOT A DRUG WITH A HIGH POTENTIAL OF HABITUAL ABUSE LIKE ALCOHOL.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: travelleler]
#18842525 - 09/14/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No addiction to LSD - alcohol is the plague of society yet so widely accepted.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: un-known-ome]
#18842799 - 09/14/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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un-known-ome said: I think that LSD is/probably/maybe good for mental health. I don't know. Working with the model that psychedelics present alternative ways of thinking about things, it should help you look at life differently, but it might depend on how you receive the experience and how you deal with it. I feel like psychedelics have made me think about things that are bothering me and analyze them, which has been good for me, but I suppose it could depress someone else and make the get therapy or something. I don't know. It's a theory.
Had I not taken LSD I would have gotten depressed, already had a strong depression before taking LSD
now I can't be depressed ever again, and hadn't taken lsd for 1 year almost, it lasts
most other people I know are depressed, and they drink alcohol / talk about how bad the world is, to cope
so what does LSD do to counter it? it can help find yourself and your real values in life , and practically no abuse potential as there is tolerance
I had more problems abusing alcohol than LSD, did drink alcohol up to 2-3 times a week or more often(damaged my liver and memory was bad), with lsd I can control it with every 3-4 months or so it made me quit daily weed smoking, and alcohol I don't use much anymore(few times a year)
LSD made me find all the things I had forgotten that I enjoy in life
...but it took 100 sessions to get there where it lasts without the drug.... and egodeath but first trip was very therapeutic, better than any SSRI I tried (only tried tramadol, its SNRI iirc still regulates mood) first trip gave mood lift for months..
I have later found out that mushrooms do the exact same as LSD, no difference same mood lift that lasts a long time (afterglow), the trip is about the same too
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Old Pokey]
#18843242 - 09/15/13 02:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gambling can often be an addiction. My dad is addicted to gambling. Wastes so much of his money on horses. Some drug habits would cost less. Psychological studies have shown that gambling is addictive. When you win, you get a surge of dopamine and adrenaline and money hence the addiction.
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I bet the Doc would take it one day. I think doing psychedelics works the brain towards evolutionary advancement.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Morel Guy]
#18845303 - 09/15/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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hidenseek1 said: i dont know what you mean about "certified nut job", but if you have skitzophrenia or personality disorders, try not toking fora few months to a year, than tell me how a joint makes you feel
the thing about pot is it has anti-psychotic properties, and as you increase your tolerance to thc and have a steady stream of the anti-pychs from pot in your system, pots no big deal
not saying you specifically may have a problem you dont notice from weed, but many do
I have toked once the past two and a half years. I miss good nugs, but I only know how to grow those. When I smoked I felt stoned, no euphoria which is partly due to my antipsychotic. The doc thinks I am probably schizoaffective. I think major depression and at times in the past psychotic epression which is often misdiagnos'd as shizoaffective. I never had visual hallucinations other than taking 5ht2a agonists. There has been some almost auditory hallucinations, but not in my ear. It is more like my subcon giving feedback thoughts. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong, sometimes epathy, sometimes annoying. I felt stimulated the next while after toking, I mean days after. A lot has to do with the conditioning of my subcon. There is a very real criminal worldout there and I disagree with hurting people most of the time. My last trip I had issues with people I felt hurt me when I was younger. I think subcon conditioning to be a major variable in my outlook. I need to accept that I can't change people. I am a small voice in a large world of voices. I would like to overcome my subcon and experience full states of ecstasy again (3 times so far). Cannabis just brings up things from the subcon, this can be really great or suffering badness. I had some bad dreams after toking, but that is likely from not having more to guide me through the initial.
I felt a void last time I toked, I believe due to subcon conditioning from invega (current drug I take a choice). I am still vunerable because I value illegal plantsand natural and semisenthetic by products. I have risked prison, barely avoided the place. I may have been open to criminal order in the past. I don't want to be part of organized crime or even disorganized crime. I still want plants and to use them, but not to be a raging boner. The world has enough assholes and I must still working on not being one. Invega helps with that, but I think medical cannabis, specially indica's could be a helpful choice.
Anyways, the void is something peaceful but it gets filled in an empty way. I guess I am not perfect, no mystical state of ecstasy all the time. I think everyone has subcon issues that drugs can bring up. I think tv is the strongest drug, that and the net. Images can be difficult to overcome. Yet we can't all win our battles with bigger battles. Sometimes I just have voids, absences, if drugs or some sort of personal interest doesn't fillthat part. I kinda like the hypomanic aspect that cannabis can induce sometimes. It's fun to find things interesting and be able to be excited in a good safe way. It's about being able to absorb and integrate vibrations. Sometimes with drugs I was unable to absorb feelings. I don't think antipsychitcs help with thoise, they just block those so they build up secretly. We live in a society that wants the dirt swept under the rug in terms of drugs. I am in a belief that we must deal with our issues, if not in life in death. Drugs that we like, mimic dying, so that is their helpful nature in revealing hidden issues.
I don't like my void/mind being filled with feeling people. Maybe with psycedlic therapy I could be strong enough to handle how people feel. It would go well or I would be locked up. I don't want that risk unless it']s mine and I can absorb the interaction. In the past I have lost touch with myself by getting intouch with myself. Professionals have called them delusions, but they are just stories I have made up to express. Inever really adapted to much egoloss in fantasy, which is what makes good art. I am a dreamer and I get aggitated when my dreams cause uncomfortable feelings. I don't lieve in heaven and am unable and highly resricted from the American dream. That has caused me major issues. I feel the American dream shouldn't be dead, it should evolve and accept the powers of the universe. It's all love or hate.
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Morel Guy]
#18846431 - 09/15/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I didn't read any of the arguing in this thread but I've taken lots of LSD and holy shit does it make me feel awesome. Id say its the only thing that keeps me sane in this world minus booze and weed
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Ogla]
#18846567 - 09/15/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi does anybody know how to order cheap Lsd sheets online? Not silkroad
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: mackseph]
#18847829 - 09/16/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mackseph said: Hi does anybody know how to order cheap Lsd sheets online? Not silkroad
You have 2 posts and you ask where to purchase a lot of a highly illegal substance.........ya, okay, good luck with that..........(sarcasom dugh).
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: mackseph]
#18848045 - 09/16/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mackseph said: Hi does anybody know how to order cheap Lsd sheets online? Not silkroad
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#18848063 - 09/16/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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it almost sounds like a sarcastic joke
e.g. does anyone know where to buy good hamburgers? not mcdonalds
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: hidenseek1]
#18850150 - 09/16/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: travelleler]
#18850303 - 09/16/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been addicted to alcohol and its lile being dead its so horrible most people wouldnt have a clue. Dont try and spit this bullshit about the poor lsd addict who can't control himself and is suffering lmfao come on now. Yes an addiction to the internet can happen, but would you rather have that or a heroin addiction? Come on it doesn't compare. That lsd addict is the luckiest man on the planet I wish we could trade addictions
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Re: LSD might be good for mental health, study says [Re: Morel Guy]
#18850443 - 09/16/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Morel Guy said:
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hidenseek1 said: i dont know what you mean about "certified nut job", but if you have skitzophrenia or personality disorders, try not toking fora few months to a year, than tell me how a joint makes you feel
the thing about pot is it has anti-psychotic properties, and as you increase your tolerance to thc and have a steady stream of the anti-pychs from pot in your system, pots no big deal
not saying you specifically may have a problem you dont notice from weed, but many do
I have toked once the past two and a half years. I miss good nugs, but I only know how to grow those. When I smoked I felt stoned, no euphoria which is partly due to my antipsychotic. The doc thinks I am probably schizoaffective. I think major depression and at times in the past psychotic epression which is often misdiagnos'd as shizoaffective. I never had visual hallucinations other than taking 5ht2a agonists. There has been some almost auditory hallucinations, but not in my ear. It is more like my subcon giving feedback thoughts. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong, sometimes epathy, sometimes annoying. I felt stimulated the next while after toking, I mean days after. A lot has to do with the conditioning of my subcon. There is a very real criminal worldout there and I disagree with hurting people most of the time. My last trip I had issues with people I felt hurt me when I was younger. I think subcon conditioning to be a major variable in my outlook. I need to accept that I can't change people. I am a small voice in a large world of voices. I would like to overcome my subcon and experience full states of ecstasy again (3 times so far). Cannabis just brings up things from the subcon, this can be really great or suffering badness. I had some bad dreams after toking, but that is likely from not having more to guide me through the initial.
I felt a void last time I toked, I believe due to subcon conditioning from invega (current drug I take a choice). I am still vunerable because I value illegal plantsand natural and semisenthetic by products. I have risked prison, barely avoided the place. I may have been open to criminal order in the past. I don't want to be part of organized crime or even disorganized crime. I still want plants and to use them, but not to be a raging boner. The world has enough assholes and I must still working on not being one. Invega helps with that, but I think medical cannabis, specially indica's could be a helpful choice.
Anyways, the void is something peaceful but it gets filled in an empty way. I guess I am not perfect, no mystical state of ecstasy all the time. I think everyone has subcon issues that drugs can bring up. I think tv is the strongest drug, that and the net. Images can be difficult to overcome. Yet we can't all win our battles with bigger battles. Sometimes I just have voids, absences, if drugs or some sort of personal interest doesn't fillthat part. I kinda like the hypomanic aspect that cannabis can induce sometimes. It's fun to find things interesting and be able to be excited in a good safe way. It's about being able to absorb and integrate vibrations. Sometimes with drugs I was unable to absorb feelings. I don't think antipsychitcs help with thoise, they just block those so they build up secretly. We live in a society that wants the dirt swept under the rug in terms of drugs. I am in a belief that we must deal with our issues, if not in life in death. Drugs that we like, mimic dying, so that is their helpful nature in revealing hidden issues.
I don't like my void/mind being filled with feeling people. Maybe with psycedlic therapy I could be strong enough to handle how people feel. It would go well or I would be locked up. I don't want that risk unless it']s mine and I can absorb the interaction. In the past I have lost touch with myself by getting intouch with myself. Professionals have called them delusions, but they are just stories I have made up to express. Inever really adapted to much egoloss in fantasy, which is what makes good art. I am a dreamer and I get aggitated when my dreams cause uncomfortable feelings. I don't lieve in heaven and am unable and highly resricted from the American dream. That has caused me major issues. I feel the American dream shouldn't be dead, it should evolve and accept the powers of the universe. It's all love or hate.
That was beautiful but...
People on the news forum couldn't give a shit about your suffering so this isn't really the place to put it. That being said, my doctor also believes that I am schizo-affective and I am on antipsychotics. I used to be on invega but I fucking hated it, now I am on abilify. I also screwed around with weed a few times this year. And I feel you on the void...
Send me a pm or make a thread in Physical and Mental Well-Being or Spirituality and Mysticism. We should really talk, it would help me as much as it would help you. You say where and I will make a thread and put my story in it as soon as possible.
Remember man, people have been dealing with the same problems for thousands of years.
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