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Offlineitsaconspiracy
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plastic container question
    #18841224 - 09/14/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ok i want to try the tek by Violet "•Seed & Plastic• Myco Match from Heaven:" ,but the plastic bit has me worried of a plastic melt down in my PC ,but with some research i found what type hopefully won't melt i got a ziplock 1 quart screwing lid storage container with recicleing number five I just want to know is did i get the right one here some pics






has anyone used these before with success?


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Re: plastic container question [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #18841309 - 09/14/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's PP5, it should work.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Pestile]
    #18841314 - 09/14/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Pestilence said:
That's PP5, it should work.




Ziplock twist tops are tried and true.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #18841316 - 09/14/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think she uses the smaller ones. 1 pint if I remember right...

That one would be a bit to deep.

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Re: plastic container question [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
    #18841347 - 09/14/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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petersodm said:
I think she uses the smaller ones. 1 pint if I remember right...

That one would be a bit to deep.

:shrug:




Quarts should colonize just fine.  It's like saying a widemouth quarts are too deep for stones.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18841350 - 09/14/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Quote:

Pestilence said:
That's PP5, it should work.




Ziplock twist tops are tried and true.




Yeah, I know, but he was afraid that it would melt in the PC. :smile:


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Pestile]
    #18841357 - 09/14/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just saying if you're just gonna case the top like Violet does, then you probably don't want such a deep container.

I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm just saying you could accomplish the same thing with less grain.

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Re: plastic container question [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
    #18841369 - 09/14/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Amelia Rose]
    #18841396 - 09/14/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thank for the responses guys and girls:thumbup: i'm glad they wont melt also i was planning on pints ,but all walmart had was quarts:shrug:
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Mush4Brains said:
It's like saying a widemouth quarts are too deep for stones.




i'm going to try cubes first than stones by the way


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Re: plastic container question [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #18841404 - 09/14/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I started with quarts then switched to the pints ala Violet tek. The quarts are more likely to stall, fyi. Violet addresses that potentiality with the small ones by loosening the lids to allow CO2 escape. Edited to add: You can buy the containers at amazon.com and many other places on the web.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Bilge]
    #18841417 - 09/14/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ya i thought of that i was going to put a tyvek breather on the lid cause loosening the lid might let contaminates in.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #18841578 - 09/14/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would avoid modifying the lids if you can. You might read Violet's bad experience with that. Gas Exchange without contamination IS accomplished by slightly loosening the lids. But we wouldn't be where we are without experimentation and learning!


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Bilge]
    #18841724 - 09/14/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have used the exact jar you have through my pc without any issue IIRC.  When I should have used grain, I tried to make a big brf cake.  The jar lived, while the brf stalled out.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18844341 - 09/15/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I use the big ones for 'master jars' and for growing invitro sterile fruits for sterile prints and perhaps clones.
They're extremely useful, but I have & use far fewer of those than the pint size.

To use for invitro growing, load the same small amount of prepped grain (~200-300mL) and colonize as normal. After at least a week consolidating, loosen the lids more than the tiny crack for GE but not enough that they can be picked up off the top, then sit back on the shelf. They fruit themselves with time, in the 3/4 of empty space! Bottom-watering works the same both containers of course.

For scale growing & using FCs you'll need the shorter pint containers, like petersodm said above.



Btw, I see mention of loose-lids for GE... FYI I've not had to crack a lid to reach full-colo in quite some time! With even spread of inoc, you likely won't have to break the seal until using. (MS is different, slower)


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Re: plastic container question [Re: Violet]
    #18844381 - 09/15/13 12:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

they work.
we have a project with them right now.

they do take longer to colonize.
and ,if ya fill them more than 60% full,
youll have to increase PC time.

the small ones, ya can flash PC for 30-35 min.
large ones like suggested, id go like 55 min.

part of the PP5 thing,
is look around for PP5 containers everywhere.
there is a shape for every occasion.

consider your cooker size, your goals, and the possibilities.

excellent, to see plastics peeps , in action.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: anne halonium]
    #18845014 - 09/15/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no such thing as PP5. It's polypropylene. The 5 is just a recycling code.

Get to know the products you're using. It'll make things much easier.


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Re: plastic container question [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #18845576 - 09/15/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thank for the additional info.
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Bilge said: I would avoid modifying the lids if you can. You might read Violet's bad experience with that. Gas Exchange without contamination IS accomplished by slightly loosening the lids. But we wouldn't be where we are without experimentation and learning!




O.K ,but since i love experimentation I'll put a breather on two jar and then leave two more unmodified and do a few runs too see the differences and document them:yesnod:

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Violet said: use the big ones for 'master jars' and for growing invitro sterile fruits for sterile prints and perhaps clones.
They're extremely useful, but I have & use far fewer of those than the pint size.

To use for invitro growing, load the same small amount of prepped grain (~200-300mL) and colonize as normal. After at least a week consolidating, loosen the lids more than the tiny crack for GE but not enough that they can be picked up off the top, then sit back on the shelf. They fruit themselves with time, in the 3/4 of empty space! Bottom-watering works the same both containers of course.




:holyfuckdude: i never thought of that awesome:highfive:

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Violet said: For scale growing & using FCs you'll need the shorter pint containers, like petersodm said above.



Btw, I see mention of loose-lids for GE... FYI I've not had to crack a lid to reach full-colo in quite some time! With even spread of inoc, you likely won't have to break the seal until using. (MS is different, slower)



:nodofunderstanding: i'll continue my search for pint size containers.
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36fukin5 said: There is no such thing as PP5. It's polypropylene. The 5 is just a recycling code.

Get to know the products you're using. It'll make things much easier.






:themoreyouknow: thanks for the info i'll do more research on the subject.


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