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First time shooting up
    #18838831 - 09/13/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I shot some heroin this morning, a very small amount just so I could get a feel for it and figure out the technique for shooting.

Anyway, after about 10 times I finally got it in a vein and drew back some blood. I slowly injected the hit and almost instantly felt very, very mild effects (I would say I only shot 3mg or so, with roughly 0.3 units of water), so I felt almost nothing, but my heart seemed to beat a lot faster for 30 seconds or so which I assume would be considered the rush?

I wiped the area with an alcohol swab afterwards. Shortly after the area became very red and slightly swollen/puffy but after an hour or so it all seems to be normal.

However, I am experiencing some very mild pain (hardly noticeable, but enough to have me a bit worried) around the injection site when bending my arm.. The pain is more noticeable when pressing my finger down over the injection site.

Is this anything to be concerned about? It's my first time shooting and I'm just worried I've done something wrong... As I said, the swelling and redness has gone away, and my arm looks fine apart from a whole load of track marks.

I will obviously go to a doctor if the pain worsens or swelling comes back, I'd just like some input from more experienced people.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind] * 2
    #18838841 - 09/13/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You sound like a champ, shooting heroin is what all the successful people have always started out doing.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18838850 - 09/13/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:undecided:

glhf?

be careful


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18838851 - 09/13/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've never shot not even done heroin but there shouldn't be a fast beating heart rush, that's typical for stimulants. I think that was your own natural adrenaline. As for the rest, I have no idea, stay safe, bro.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind] * 1
    #18838853 - 09/13/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

junkies unite!

IF you post heroin related stuff in the pub you'll get a lot of people saying bullshit like "just quit" or sob stories about all the people they've seen die from it.

it gets annoying.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind] * 2
    #18838856 - 09/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty normal. Your heart will beat quickly during the intial dosing, while your body is metabolising the drug.
It will slown down later, because that's what cns depressants do.

Redness around the injection site is normal, and the pain can most likely be explained by a decidedly amateurish technique. I'm certainly not suggesting you get well-acquainted with IV drug use, but with a bit of practise you'll get the hang of thing and you won't need to stab yourself a quarter-million times.

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junkies unite!

IF you post heroin related stuff in the pub you'll get a lot of people saying bullshit like "just quit" or sob stories about all the people they've seen die from it.

it gets annoying.




Also, this. Just don't be stupid and you'll be fine.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18838862 - 09/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just chill out and try not to freak out


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind] * 1
    #18838864 - 09/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

good luck with that life style.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18838865 - 09/13/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
I've never shot not even done heroin but there shouldn't be a fast beating heart rush, that's typical for stimulants. I think that was your own natural adrenaline. As for the rest, I have no idea, stay safe, bro.



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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18838867 - 09/13/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just quit now man--i've seen too many people i know die from this shit *sob*


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18838871 - 09/13/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ask questions like this in ODD so you don't have to deal with typical pub responses.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: claraclairvoyant] * 1
    #18838875 - 09/13/13 09:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You sound like a champ, shooting heroin is what all the successful people have always started out doing.




I'm doing pretty well for myself.
Granted, shooting isn't something I continue to do. :lol:

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good luck with that life style.




Let the condescending bullshit begin.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #18838879 - 09/13/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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just quit now man--i've seen too many people i know die from this shit *sob*



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Re: First time shooting up [Re: something super extreme]
    #18838887 - 09/13/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hey svs, fuck you


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: something super extreme]
    #18838889 - 09/13/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You sound like a champ, shooting heroin is what all the successful people have always started out doing.





Thanks for the kind words.

I'm not planning on making this a regular thing... I'm moving in a week anyway and will no longer have a supply. I just though I'd give it a try while I had the chance...

Quote:

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Pretty normal. Your heart will beat quickly during the intial dosing, while your body is metabolising the drug.
It will slown down later, because that's what cns depressants do.

Redness around the injection site is normal, and the pain can most likely be explained by a decidedly amateurish technique. I'm certainly not suggesting you get well-acquainted with IV drug use, but with a bit of practise you'll get the hang of thing and you won't need to stab yourself a quarter-million times.

Quote:

rbalzer said:
junkies unite!

IF you post heroin related stuff in the pub you'll get a lot of people saying bullshit like "just quit" or sob stories about all the people they've seen die from it.

it gets annoying.




Also, this. Just don't be stupid and you'll be fine.





Thanks, that's reassuring.

I think it was just bad technique.. I mean I definitely drew back blood, so that means I was in a vein, right?


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18838896 - 09/13/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

GreyMorph said:
I've never shot not even done heroin but there shouldn't be a fast beating heart rush, that's typical for stimulants. I think that was your own natural adrenaline. As for the rest, I have no idea, stay safe, bro.



:bs:




What's BS? I told him I had no experience and I gave my opinion of what I thought. It's a lot more than most have given him. Most call him a junkie or tell him he's on a bad road. I could see myself arguing with you all night about nothing but after this post I am going to bed so good night .


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18838904 - 09/13/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

please dont shoot up man :smile: good vibes all around


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: claraclairvoyant] * 2
    #18838907 - 09/13/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hey svs, fuck you




Now now, refrain from flaming or trolling in the pub.
We'd hate to lose such an illustrious poster for any amount of time.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: something super extreme]
    #18838918 - 09/13/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Illustrious :lolsy:

I think you give her too much credit.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18839036 - 09/13/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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GreyMorph said:
Quote:

rbalzer said:
Quote:

GreyMorph said:
I've never shot not even done heroin but there shouldn't be a fast beating heart rush, that's typical for stimulants. I think that was your own natural adrenaline. As for the rest, I have no idea, stay safe, bro.



:bs:




What's BS? I told him I had no experience and I gave my opinion of what I thought. It's a lot more than most have given him. Most call him a junkie or tell him he's on a bad road. I could see myself arguing with you all night about nothing but after this post I am going to bed so good night .



just because you said there shouldn't be a sudden increase in heart rate. Which was based on....most likely, speculation, therefore :bs:


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18839112 - 09/13/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey. Don't let people get you down. IV is an amazing rush, just remember you will never ever feel as good as that first good rush again. Unless you ball, that is pretty awesome.

But I fucked up the first time I shot up too. Totally missed, but had a slow effect.


What vein are you trying to hit though? The one in the crook of your arm is the best spot when your trying it out. Be safe, sanitize your hands and the vein area.

You didnt mention if you filtered it. Make sure to filter your shot.

Use clean sterile water always. I personally always cooked my shot, some dont.

Did you tie off? Some people need to, its normally better to avoid it if you can.

And if you get any swelling or miss a bit, put a fairly hot washcloth over the area and gently massage the area. This will help prevent abscesses.

Try not to reuse needles, clean them if you do. Blah blah blah.

It's a great high, Just never do it two days in a row. For lots, once you do it two days in a row, youre on it.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #18839127 - 09/13/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I love it when the people on a drug site tell ppl not to do drugs, or rather, anything other than Their drugs.

Sounds like cops to me


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18839153 - 09/13/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hey. Don't let people get you down. IV is an amazing rush, just remember you will never ever feel as good as that first good rush again. Unless you ball, that is pretty awesome.

But I fucked up the first time I shot up too. Totally missed, but had a slow effect.


What vein are you trying to hit though? The one in the crook of your arm is the best spot when your trying it out. Be safe, sanitize your hands and the vein area.

You didnt mention if you filtered it. Make sure to filter your shot.

Use clean sterile water always. I personally always cooked my shot, some dont.

Did you tie off? Some people need to, its normally better to avoid it if you can.

And if you get any swelling or miss a bit, put a fairly hot washcloth over the area and gently massage the area. This will help prevent abscesses.

Try not to reuse needles, clean them if you do. Blah blah blah.

It's a great high, Just never do it two days in a row. For lots, once you do it two days in a row, youre on it.


:syringe: :drooling:





I put some water in a spoon, added a little bit of H and cooked it until the water started to bubble. I filtered through a an alcohlic swab (I was going to use a cigarette filter, but read that they contain some nasty stuff) as I read that it was a resonably safe alternative if no micron filters are available.

I eventually hit the vein in the crook of my arm, before that I was trying further down my arm and also up around the bicep but had no luck.

I sterilized the area before shooting... I think I did everything correctly, I just need to work on hitting the veins.

First few times when I drew back in different spot all I got was air... On the successful shot I drew back and got a bit of air, then drew back more and got blood.


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Re: First time shooting up *DELETED* [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839162 - 09/13/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839168 - 09/13/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Hey. Don't let people get you down. IV is an amazing rush, just remember you will never ever feel as good as that first good rush again. Unless you ball, that is pretty awesome.

But I fucked up the first time I shot up too. Totally missed, but had a slow effect.


What vein are you trying to hit though? The one in the crook of your arm is the best spot when your trying it out. Be safe, sanitize your hands and the vein area.

You didnt mention if you filtered it. Make sure to filter your shot.

Use clean sterile water always. I personally always cooked my shot, some dont.

Did you tie off? Some people need to, its normally better to avoid it if you can.

And if you get any swelling or miss a bit, put a fairly hot washcloth over the area and gently massage the area. This will help prevent abscesses.

Try not to reuse needles, clean them if you do. Blah blah blah.

It's a great high, Just never do it two days in a row. For lots, once you do it two days in a row, youre on it.


:syringe: :drooling:





I put some water in a spoon, added a little bit of H and cooked it until the water started to bubble. I filtered through a an alcohlic swab (I was going to use a cigarette filter, but read that they contain some nasty stuff) as I read that it was a resonably safe alternative if no micron filters are available.

I eventually hit the vein in the crook of my arm, before that I was trying further down my arm and also up around the bicep but had no luck.

I sterilized the area before shooting... I think I did everything correctly, I just need to work on hitting the veins.

First few times when I drew back in different spot all I got was air... On the successful shot I drew back and got a bit of air, then drew back more and got blood.




Okay yeah that sounds pretty good, bottle distilled water is best, dont use tap. Chemicals in it.

Kind of just sounds like you need to go deeper then. Taking a warm bath is a good way to bring veins to the surface.

What kind of H are you getting in aus?


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #18839192 - 09/13/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The first batch I got was Afghan #3.. brown powder. That was my favourite. I love the feeling from smoking it.

Last batch was Golden Triangle #4, nothing too special.

This stuff I've got now is South East Asian #4 in rock form.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839203 - 09/13/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

your heart was beating because you just shot heroin for the first time, I was nervous too. your arm hurts because you dont know how to shoot. quit thinkin too hard.

good job at starting out small though, although a little too small haha. but this is actually a good thing. theres still hope, you didnt get the rush.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18839210 - 09/13/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm thinking about IVing some heroin for my IV experience, unless I can get my hands on some ketamine before I decide to take the plunge.

I've always been afraid of shooting up, mainly because I've always associated it with being a junkie.

I recently lost that mindset and realize it's just a more efficient way of using drugs





That is the conclusion I came to as well. I let it get away from me though, but managed to quit after 6 months of daily opiate use.

IV is efficient, but a little too efficient to be sustained.


And if youre trying to shoot that stuff, you may need to add a bit of acid to get it dissolve properly. I'm not 100% sure on which ones you have to use it. I always got stuff ready to shoot.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839216 - 09/13/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know if my heart was beating fast... but there was definitely a 'new' feeling almost instantly as I injected it.

It was adrenaline I know that for sure, I actually wasn't nervous about shooting it.

My main reason for starting small was to not waste much if I couldn't get the technique down.

I have one needle left, I may or may not try shooting again.

It seems there are too many risks involved. I would prefer someone with experience to shoot me up rather than doing it myself.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18839222 - 09/13/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First time shooting up [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18839226 - 09/13/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The first batch I got was Afghan #3.. brown powder. That was my favourite. I love the feeling from smoking it.





Isn't #3 BTH not powder?





BTH as in tar?

No, this was a fine brown powder. Needs to be mixed with vinegar before shooting as it's no water soluble.

I don't know a whole lot about heroin, but I do know (personally speaking) it was a lot better than #4


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839229 - 09/13/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know if my heart was beating fast... but there was definitely a 'new' feeling almost instantly as I injected it.





yeah you can feel it in your heart. idk what kind of H your getting but if its tar, smoke that shit! its so much fun. I mean you shouldnt do it at all but no one on an internet forum is going to convince you of that so..yeah just dont shoot bro. Im the only person I know that has gone from smoking to shooting and back to smoking. 90% will stay shooters till early death


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839252 - 09/13/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't know if my heart was beating fast... but there was definitely a 'new' feeling almost instantly as I injected it.





yeah you can feel it in your heart. idk what kind of H your getting but if its tar, smoke that shit! its so much fun. I mean you shouldnt do it at all but no one on an internet forum is going to convince you of that so..yeah just dont shoot bro. Im the only person I know that has gone from smoking to shooting and back to smoking. 90% will stay shooters till early death





This is what I've got.. White rocks - HCL.

Doesn't smoke very well at all.



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    #18839259 - 09/13/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First time shooting up [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18839265 - 09/13/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The first batch I got was Afghan #3.. brown powder. That was my favourite. I love the feeling from smoking it.





Isn't #3 BTH not powder?





BTH as in tar?

No, this was a fine brown powder. Needs to be mixed with vinegar before shooting as it's no water soluble.

I don't know a whole lot about heroin, but I do know (personally speaking) it was a lot better than #4




Yes as in tar, you're supposed to smoke tar, smoking powder is very wasteful, It's more suitable for snorting/IVing.



Yeah i really fuckin wish I could get some sort of powder. All i can find is tar, so I usually smoke it.

recently started plugging it. Which I'm diggin so far


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839274 - 09/13/13 11:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I didn't read all the posts in this thread because I know exactly what they say by now. I'd suggest next time post shit like this in ODD and you'll get real advice from people that actually give a shit about you rather than call you useless and a junkie.

But redness and slight pain around the shot sounds pretty normal as long as there's no swelling or unusual "bump" that you can see.
It sounds like you're pretty inexperienced and I'd HIGHLY suggest researching some IV techniques on bluelight before shooting up again. I hit my vien had a successful shot the first time I ever tried it, research your shit and you'll be alright. If you keep going like you are now you WILL do something harmful to you obviously have a lot to learn.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Nevermind]
    #18839284 - 09/13/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Haha youre on your way to sucking a dick for subs


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Bretdaniel] * 1
    #18839312 - 09/13/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Haha youre on your way to sucking a dick for subs




:lol: ive never heard of someone sucking dick for suboxone.

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Re: First time shooting up [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #18839361 - 09/13/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ask questions like this in ODD so you don't have to deal with typical pub responses.



lol


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #18839362 - 09/13/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I love it when the people on a drug site tell ppl not to do drugs, or rather, anything other than Their drugs.




i second that


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Fuckspice]
    #18839380 - 09/13/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No shit man, you can't post anything about drugs in the pub without critisicm
Not everyone is a hippie that only does acid and smokes weed.

Shit like this is definitely better suited in ODD


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839501 - 09/13/13 11:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dont kid yourself, suboxon is just a rehabed junkies new addiction.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18839531 - 09/14/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Illustrious :lolsy:

I think you give her too much credit.




I'm pretty sure he's using the sarcasm.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Sheekle]
    #18839550 - 09/14/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #18839663 - 09/14/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dont kid yourself, suboxon is just a rehabed junkies new addiction.




haha trust me I am of no ignorance to this kind of shit. I just thought it was funny you chose subs as the thing hed suck dick for.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839694 - 09/14/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hey bro its nothing to worry about what happened is you blew your vein up when you do it again be sure after you let blood in the syringe to loosen    your tie off and inject slowly


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Bretdaniel]
    #18839741 - 09/14/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dont kid yourself, suboxon is just a rehabed junkies new addiction.



While I agree at least it gets people throughout the day without having to smoke. It's beneficial if you have a job to work or school to attemnd and various other activites.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: nathanielshannon]
    #18839748 - 09/14/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hey bro its nothing to worry about what happened is you blew your vein up when you do it again be sure after you let blood in the syringe to loosen    your tie off and inject slowly




I dont think he blew his vein dude:lol:

oh and if he did it would definitely be something to worry about


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18839749 - 09/14/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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No shit man, you can't post anything about drugs in the pub without critisicm
Not everyone is a hippie that only does acid and smokes weed.






The funny part to me is that real (meaning 60s 70s) hippies did all kinds of drugs :tongue2:


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #18839750 - 09/14/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah subs work pretty well for tapering I've seen people taper off them pretty quick without too bad of withdrawal. Methadone is fucked though, if your on a methadone program your gonna be taking methadone for the rest of your life. Such a shitty taper drug too, the withdrawal is supposed to be even worse than heroin.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: pcplease]
    #18839754 - 09/14/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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volcomstoner said:
No shit man, you can't post anything about drugs in the pub without critisicm
Not everyone is a hippie that only does acid and smokes weed.






The funny part to me is that real (meaning 60s 70s) hippies did all kinds of drugs :tongue2:


:chong:



Yeah I agree its fuckin crazy but now it turned into this liberal college kid scene with a lot of "my drugs are better than your drugs" that I see going around.


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: pcplease]
    #18839755 - 09/14/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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volcomstoner said:
No shit man, you can't post anything about drugs in the pub without critisicm
Not everyone is a hippie that only does acid and smokes weed.






The funny part to me is that real (meaning 60s 70s) hippies did all kinds of drugs :tongue2:


:chong:




well not really. the 'real' hippies that started it all in sanfran were very pure they only did psychedelics and smoked weed. when people started coming from new york and shit to sanfran bringing the hard drugs is when it got fucked up


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18839758 - 09/14/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah subs work pretty well for tapering I've seen people taper off them pretty quick without too bad of withdrawal. Methadone is fucked though, if your on a methadone program your gonna be taking methadone for the rest of your life. Such a shitty taper drug too, the withdrawal is supposed to be even worse than heroin.




with methadone and subs the withdrawals aren't as intense as heroin but they are way longer, im pretty sure. I know theyre longer but I think they are less intense. but anyway yeah subs are great as long as you just take em for 3 days or so to get off the dope easier


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839759 - 09/14/13 01:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How about lets not get into an argument about who the "real hippies" are. I think we can all agree it's an overused term that has no real meaning to it anymore

God dammit, i cant think straight im tripping way too hard for this shit


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839761 - 09/14/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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volcomstoner said:
Yeah subs work pretty well for tapering I've seen people taper off them pretty quick without too bad of withdrawal. Methadone is fucked though, if your on a methadone program your gonna be taking methadone for the rest of your life. Such a shitty taper drug too, the withdrawal is supposed to be even worse than heroin.




with methadone and subs the withdrawals aren't as intense as heroin but they are way longer, im pretty sure. I know theyre longer but I think they are less intense. but anyway yeah subs are great as long as you just take em for 3 days or so to get off the dope easier



I've never been on methadone, but it was just something all my buddies in treatment would advise against and to just go with the sub taper.
I know in treatment they hooked us up with the detox meds I was on like 10mg of klonopin a day to start my taper


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18839765 - 09/14/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How about lets not get into an argument about who the "real hippies" are. I think we can all agree it's an overused term that has no real meaning to it anymore

God dammit, i cant think straight im tripping way too hard for this shit




you trippin dude? nice. acid? mushies?


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Re: First time shooting up [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #18839775 - 09/14/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

5 hits of AL-LAD it's been a pretty goddamn "intense" night thats for sure
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Re: First time shooting up [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18839785 - 09/14/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

get off the shroomery man go have some fun! :thumbup::awecid2:


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