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OfflineShahal Rainrix
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Re: Substrate Question [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18837329 - 09/13/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

agreed, it doesn't even matter if I fail. As long as I try, I'll still learn how not to make substrate.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837334 - 09/13/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That is the site I learned it from. But the bee pollen makes sence, they also use worm cast which I know grows mold like crazy from when I used to raise my own bait.




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Re: Substrate Question [Re: PussyFart]
    #18837365 - 09/13/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Substrate Question [Re: PussyFart]
    #18837370 - 09/13/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Midwest has a fucking awful reputation around the mushroom community, shalal.

Don't believe a word they say.

I can't even count the number of times I have seen people complain about the info and equipment purchased from them. They are douchebag pieces of shit.

If you throw that name in the shroomery search engine, you'll see what I mean.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18837379 - 09/13/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Midwest has a fucking awful reputation around the mushroom community, shalal.

Don't believe a word they say.

I can't even count the number of times I have seen people complain about the info and equipment purchased from them. They are douchebag pieces of shit.

If you throw that name in the shroomery search engine, you'll see what I mean.



thanks for the warning I almost bought from them, but then changed my mind to building my own grow kit.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837384 - 09/13/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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But the bee pollen makes sence, they also use worm cast which I know grows mold like crazy from when I used to raise my own bait.




Why people think flower pollen(it's not bee pollen, they just collect it) has mushroom food is beyond me. Exactly what is there for the mycelium to metabolize? :shrug:

Worm castings make a nice additive to bulk substrates, but they would only dilute brf cakes.
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Re: Substrate Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18837419 - 09/13/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Shahal Rainrix said:
But the bee pollen makes sence, they also use worm cast which I know grows mold like crazy from when I used to raise my own bait.




Why people think flower pollen(it's not bee pollen, they just collect it) has mushroom food is beyond me. Exactly what is there for the mycelium to metabolize? :shrug:

Worm castings make a nice additive to bulk substrates, but they would only dilute brf cakes.
RR



Google bee pollen, its a super food that has a wide range of nutrients and sense its powder to start with mycelium can break it down easily like brf.

Worm casting could give mycelium nutrients that it can't convert itself.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18837441 - 09/13/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I would take the advice of people that are not trying to sell you anything at all, and are offering only help to see you grow. There is 0 motive for us to tell you bad advice, and all the motive in the world to help you cultivate. Imagine if doctors worked for only a sense of purpose and charity.


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Google bee pollen, its a super food that has a wide range of nutrients and sense its powder to start with mycelium can break it down easily like brf.

Worm casting could give mycelium nutrients that it can't convert itself.



:smbfacepalm:

RR just told you it's not bee pollen. Bees make honey they take pollen. Is "butterfly pollen" not as good then? Just because it's a powered has nothing to do with how mycellium metabolizes it and learn how to spell it right.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837457 - 09/13/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Google bee pollen, its a super food that has a wide range of nutrients and sense its powder to start with mycelium can break it down easily like brf.

Worm casting could give mycelium nutrients that it can't convert itself.




I've used pollen in a test before. Zero benefits IMO.

I guess I would ask, what good is all of these technical details when they don't provide any real benefit in practice?


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837458 - 09/13/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a bee keeper and commercial mushroom farmer.  What I was saying is using bee pollen for mushrooms is akin to snake oil.  If it gave one whit of benefit, I'd be using it.  My point is that we need to be very careful evaluating what we read on the internet.
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Re: Substrate Question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18837460 - 09/13/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I would take the advice of people that are not trying to sell you anything at all, and are offering only help to see you grow. There is 0 motive for us to tell you bad advice, and all the motive in the world to help you cultivate. Imagine if doctors worked for only a sense of purpose and charity.


Quote:

Google bee pollen, its a super food that has a wide range of nutrients and sense its powder to start with mycelium can break it down easily like brf.

Worm casting could give mycelium nutrients that it can't convert itself.



:smbfacepalm:

RR just told you it's not bee pollen. Bees make honey they take pollen. Is "butterfly pollen" not as good then? Just because it's a powered has nothing to do with how mycellium metabolizes it and learn how to spell it right.



I'm taking about it as a product! And it's spelled with 1 L.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837470 - 09/13/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry about it guys. Just let me worry about it.

ANd how much bee pollen did you use Frank?


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18837509 - 09/13/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm a bee keeper and commercial mushroom farmer.  What I was saying is using bee pollen for mushrooms is akin to snake oil.  If it gave one whit of benefit, I'd be using it.  My point is that we need to be very careful evaluating what we read on the internet.
RR





that's cool and all, but I didn't rely on 1 source. Bee pollen has been re occurring in my searches for possible substrate.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837523 - 09/13/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It was over nine months ago, I couldn't tell you. I run a large number of substrates every month across various species.

I can tell you without a doubt that RogerRabbit is the source of up to date info. His mushroomvideos.com site is the very foundation on which most of us (including me) base our work on.

RR will not bullshit you. Other people and other sites certainly will. Take his word first and others second (myself included in the latter).


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18837585 - 09/13/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No thanks, I can't trust someone like that. There is helpful and too helpful. People trusted me in high school and I was very helpful. But I always crushed those who crossed me. So I don't trust people that are too helpful. It's fair advice.

Don't trust someone until you know how they are sick. I've had visual and auditory hallucinations since I was 5. I hid it for 18 years and no one even knew until I openly admited it and got help for all the other problems people did suspect.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Shahal Rainrix]
    #18837613 - 09/13/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, you really shouldn't eat hallucinogenic mushrooms. I just feel compelled to put that out there.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #18837668 - 09/13/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There is a "supercake" recipe on another site, using many of these additives. You might check into it. The author of the thread used bee pollen, worm casting tea, corn meal, etc. You could probably find it with google search.

Good luck, let us know your results.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: budkatz]
    #18837737 - 09/13/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Good lord........I'm not even going to go there. But yeah what he said about not eating hallucination causing fungi or other sources.

This bee pollen snoz makes absolutely no sense. Now if you wait for it to become honey, well then yeah.


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: maddchef]
    #18837785 - 09/13/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Honey is good for you - just eat some of that and forget about using "bee pollen" to grow something you are too paranoid to eat :thumbup:


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Re: Substrate Question [Re: Skinty]
    #18837812 - 09/13/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Hell yeah let's all just eat some honey! I just stole some from my bees today! :smile:


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